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montecarlo
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1865 Location: Romania
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:45 pm Post subject: Zenitar MC 2/50 |
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montecarlo wrote:
Hello,
Many many times I heard talking about the famous Zenitar 2.8/16 fisheye (yes I understand why, being I think, the most affordable fisheye lens, and also pretty good), and nothing or almost nothing about the Zenitar 2/50 lens which I think, cames with the Zenit KM and 412 , 312 or 212 models as kit lens.
First impression, well is is made of plastic, at least the exterior, the filter screw is also plastic (unfortunately it has 46mm filter diameter , not 49 like most of the M42 , 50 mm lenses). The diaphragm ring is also plastic. Only the screw mount is metal (I do not know the interior).
Is this lens an original russian lens ? I mean, is a copy of some german or japanese lenses or not. May be some of you know the answer.
In the mean time I post here some samples (some with 100% crops):
100% crop
100% crop
PS. The shots were made with the Zenitar mounted on a Pentax K100D body. _________________ Canonet QL17 III
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Wow! This is a great lens! Can you make a picture from the lens itself? _________________ -------------------------------
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montecarlo
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1865 Location: Romania
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
Attila wrote: |
...Can you make a picture from the lens itself? |
Here we go
_________________ Canonet QL17 III
Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0,
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4
Pentax MX, ME Super, Chinon CE4/CM4, Petri MC 28mm f:2, smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Soligor T 135mm f:2.8
Minolta X500, Tokina 28/2.8, Rokkor 50/1.7, 80-205/4.5
Nikon D90, Nikkor 35/2.0, Nikkor 50/1.8, Sigma 24/2.8, Nikkor 18-105 VR |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Hi!
Nice shots! Seems to be a good lens!
Did you resharpen the crops? If yes, please don't. Otherwise a real judgement about lens quality is impossible.
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TDN
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 321 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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TDN wrote:
weird shape of the lens, looks like a toy
But the optical quality seems good
(nice shot of the blossoms by the way) _________________ ---
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montecarlo
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1865 Location: Romania
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
Don't worry. I didn't make no modifications on them (pictures). The shots were taken in RAW mode and adjusted the compensation, about +0.3 , +0.5 and converted to jpeg. _________________ Canonet QL17 III
Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0,
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4
Pentax MX, ME Super, Chinon CE4/CM4, Petri MC 28mm f:2, smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Soligor T 135mm f:2.8
Minolta X500, Tokina 28/2.8, Rokkor 50/1.7, 80-205/4.5
Nikon D90, Nikkor 35/2.0, Nikkor 50/1.8, Sigma 24/2.8, Nikkor 18-105 VR |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Answer is simple Russian inside , Chinese outside LOL. Looks Canon kit lens that is also crap looking and the optics crap too. This lens has excellent optical quality I will looking ... _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Canon kit lens that is also crap looking and the optics crap too. |
Not entirely. There is a lot of bad talk about the kit lens by the snobbish people who only use "L" lenses.
In reality, Canon's kit lens is a decent beginners lens - with some shortcomings on the wide end, more than decent on the long end, and like most kit lenses, pretty good when stopped down to f/8.
I have taken nice pictures with it when I was still unaware of the existence of the adapters.
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Okay! _________________ -------------------------------
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Orio wrote: |
...Don't believe everything that the "L lenses" snobbish folks tell you |
That's absolutely right, Orio!
I have seen "photographers" who spent a lot of money on L-lenses and were not able to present one good picture, just because they obviously did not have the right talent.
I also had the kit-lens and although it really is a plastic toy, its optical quality is surprisingly good! I just sold it, because I did not feel good when I used, I was afraid to break it.
BTW, I have a EF 1.8/50 II and this also is a plastic toy, but with very good optical quality. It is called "plastic fantastic". Right, it does not have the "feeling" and "character" of some classical 50mm lenses, but it is quite a nice AF-lens. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Borges
Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 646 Location: Moers, Germany
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Borges wrote:
This lens is on my wish list for a long time. Sadly not old enough to go for a few euros like the Helios 44M-somethings.
Thanks for showing these pics. I fear I have bid a little bit more in the future for this lens.
Michael
P.S.:
I agree with the comments about the L-lens. Seen too many ***** with L-lens. Last one I talked with had his camera configured to produce the strongest compressed jpeg. He tries to convince me that there is absolute no difference to see. It was the ex husband of my wife. Her comment: there are worser reasons for a divorce.
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Borges wrote: |
This lens is on my wish list for a long time. Sadly not old enough to go for a few euros like the Helios 44M-somethings.
Thanks for showing these pics. I fear I have bid a little bit more in the future for this lens.
Michael
P.S.:
I agree with the comments about the L-lens. Seen too many ***** with L-lens. Last one I talked with had his camera configured to produce the strongest compressed jpeg. He tries to convince me that there is absolute no difference to see. It was the ex husband of my wife. Her comment: there are worser reasons for a divorce.
Michael |
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