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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:16 pm    Post subject: Zenitar 16mm fish eye Reply with quote

I am thinking to buy a Zenitar 16mm lens, based on many example what you post guys I beleive this lens one of the must have lens for any MF lens lover.
Please let me know your thoughts about Zenitar 16 advantages, disadvantages etc.

Thanks in advance!


PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should get it in a couple of days. I will share my test photos. I expect to find a great lens, based on what I have seen from Michael, Carsten, Ballu and the others who have it.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I think also based on what you said, I especially look forward how to compare the praktical usage with Flektogons on crop camera.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a very nice lens, Attila! I agree, it is a "must have" for MF enthusiasts.

Advantages?
Pretty fast (f2.8 ), pretty sharp (very sharp at f8 ), pleasant colour rendering, solid built, great FoV, fisheye distortions can be compensated by post-production well

Disadvantages?
Well, if you don't like fisheye effects or if you don't like to do some post-production, do not buy this lens, sometimes infinity focus problems at f2.8.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Infinity problems ? Can you explain a bit more ?


PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What to now about Zenitar:
http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6375


PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katzer, these two lenses were the only time when I did not really look at the price tag when I bought them, since there are no real alternatives (or rather only extremely expensive ones)!

So, although I am normally closefisted, I bought both lenses ... and never have regretted it.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

katzer wrote:
Do you use the Zenitar on the crop body?


Since it has an M42-mount, I can use it at my Zenit EM, my EOS 350D (and probably, but never tried, at my EOS500 and my Ricoh KR-10x).

I like the results at both a film body and crop body, although they are,of course, different.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Zenitar was one of my first mf-lens. I like the character of the results very much even with a crop camera. But the difference to the focal length of the standard kit-lens is not so much. I think it's more fun using it together with full frame, film or digital.

An example of the different angle of vision (outer frame: 5D, inner frame: 350D):


Michael


PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael, are you sure about that? I didn't expect the difference to be so huge.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Michael , this is very informative example! How about Peleng 8mm quality is it same good as zenitar ?


PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LucisPictor wrote:
Michael, are you sure about that? I didn't expect the difference to be so huge.


Yes, I'm sure Very Happy You can read about it thousand times but it's envisioned only if you "see" it this way.

Film/FF: 36x24
Crop 1.6: 22,5x15

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Canon-Lenses/Field-of-View-Crop-Factor.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_factor

Michael


PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In fact it's impressive to see the crop described visually. And this is only the 1.6x APS crop, so think about the 2x crop of the 4/3rds system.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Lahnet thanks for useful infinity information!


PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Borges wrote:
LucisPictor wrote:
Michael, are you sure about that? I didn't expect the difference to be so huge.


Yes, I'm sure Very Happy You can read about it thousand times but it's envisioned only if you "see" it this way.

Film/FF: 36x24
Crop 1.6: 22,5x15

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Canon-Lenses/Field-of-View-Crop-Factor.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_factor

Michael


Yes, I know about the different sizes, what I meant was the impressively different effect! Shocked

You know, I have never shot the same picture on film and with my 350D using the Zenitar, so I could not compare...