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DanielV
Joined: 27 May 2011 Posts: 3
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 12:44 am Post subject: Zeiss Planar Rollei 85mm 1.4 htf |
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DanielV wrote:
Hello, recently I found a Zeiss Planar Rollei 85mm 1.4 htf lens, sadly i don't know very much about it or what it is even worth, I was hoping you all cound give me some info it, it has a really interersting 3 blade aperture.
I ordered the Rollie to EOS adapter for my 7D but it hasn't arrived yet.
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Himself
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3214 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 3:25 am Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
Welcome aboard!
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
General information on the lens by Marco Cavina:
http://www.marcocavina.com/articoli_fotografici/Zeiss_Planar_85mm_1,4/00_pag.htm
(use google translate if you don't understand italian)
The "Best of Lenses" gallery thread dedicated to this lens:
http://forum.mflenses.com/carl-zeiss-planar-hft-1-4-85-rollei-sl-t39760.html
In short: the lens is a classic design, first realized for the Contarex line of lenses by Heinrich Basista and Bernhard Sonnenberg, under the supervision of the genial Erhard Glatzel, in the end of the 60s.
The design was so successful that is was later ported over to other line of lenses, such as the Arriflex line for movie cameras (see in Marco Cavina's article some images samples taken from the movie "Taxi Driver" that used this lens), the Rollei SL line for SLR cameras, and the Contax line, also for SLR cameras. It's later incarnation is in the Z line of lenses for SLR cameras, currently in production.
While the Contarex, Contax, and Z lines exemplars have a (more or less) normal iris shape, the Rollei and Arriflex version use the triangular iris shape.
My personal impression of the lens:
1- it has slightly more CA than the Contax exemplars (but it might be my copy). It is not however a major issue for me (for some people it is, especially those who make studio work with the lens wide open).
2- depending on the camera you use, it might be impossible to reach infinity focus with an adapter. For instance, I use the lens with the EOS 5D Mark II and it can not reach infinity focus. I don't care because I don't take landscape images with this lens. But if you do, this might be an issue for you.
Under all other respects, the lens renders identically to the commonly known Contax version.
The triangular highlights can be annoying, or they can be a plus, this depends on your image. For instance, I think that with traffic lights in the evening they look very cool :
(I missed the focus in this image, but it conveys the point)
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
OT, i am constantly amazed at the depth and quality of knowledge we have on this forum, and how much time people like orio take to share that knowledge with others. _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
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aspen
Joined: 15 Dec 2010 Posts: 307 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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aspen wrote:
rbelyell wrote: |
OT, i am constantly amazed at the depth and quality of knowledge we have on this forum, and how much time people like orio take to share that knowledge with others. |
+1 |
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DanielV
Joined: 27 May 2011 Posts: 3
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:32 am Post subject: |
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DanielV wrote:
Thnaks for all the great info!!!!!! I'm learning a lot about the lens!
Himself wrote: |
Welcome aboard!
How much did you pay for it? |
I paid 100 dollars for it, but I think i will sell it. Dose anyone know what this lens is going for? I would like to at least get what I paid for it back. |
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berraneck
Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 972 Location: prague, czech republic
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:45 am Post subject: |
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berraneck wrote:
DanielV wrote: |
I paid 100 dollars for it, but I think i will sell it. Dose anyone know what this lens is going for? I would like to at least get what I paid for it back. |
oh man! if youre fine with getting back what you paid for it Ill grab it from you immediatelly! but I think the real price is more than 100usd _________________ equipment doesnt count, good photographs do |
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tkbslc
Joined: 02 Jul 2009 Posts: 194 Location: Utah, USA
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:59 am Post subject: |
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tkbslc wrote:
DanielV wrote: |
I paid 100 dollars for it, but I think i will sell it. Dose anyone know what this lens is going for? I would like to at least get what I paid for it back. |
You won't have any trouble getting several times what you paid. _________________ Canon 30D + some AF and MF lenses |
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Cistron
Joined: 25 Feb 2011 Posts: 238 Location: London/Vienna
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Cistron wrote:
Yes, I wouldn't sell it again for less than $500-1000, if it is in good condition. _________________ Canon 5D, Jupiter 11A 135mm f/4, Soligor (Tokina) 105mm f/2.8, Nikon 55mm f/1.2 S-Auto, Sigma MF 50mm f/2.8 Macro, Olympus Zuiko 50mm f/1.8 MC, Olympus Zuiko 28mm f/2.8 MC |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:47 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
100 dollars?
This lens is commonly sold around 600 Euros! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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DanielV
Joined: 27 May 2011 Posts: 3
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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DanielV wrote:
Thanks everyone!
Cistron wrote: |
Yes, I wouldn't sell it again for less than $500-1000, if it is in good condition. |
It is, Ive been using it on my 7d, it looks amazing. I think I'm going to ask $600 for it. |
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
keep it man! $100 for the best ever portrait lens is a sign providence is smiling on you, and one should never kick providence! _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
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Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
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Cistron
Joined: 25 Feb 2011 Posts: 238 Location: London/Vienna
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Cistron wrote:
rbelyell wrote: |
keep it man! $100 for the best ever portrait lens is a sign providence is smiling on you, and one should never kick providence! |
+1, unless you hate using it and need the money. _________________ Canon 5D, Jupiter 11A 135mm f/4, Soligor (Tokina) 105mm f/2.8, Nikon 55mm f/1.2 S-Auto, Sigma MF 50mm f/2.8 Macro, Olympus Zuiko 50mm f/1.8 MC, Olympus Zuiko 28mm f/2.8 MC |
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gearsNcogs
Joined: 20 Oct 2010 Posts: 215
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:36 am Post subject: |
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gearsNcogs wrote:
i personally love the 3 bladed aperture, it's a very interesting effect, and definitely gives the lens a lot of character. on top of that, you got it for a killer price! i agree with rbelyell and Cistron -- keep it! _________________ Stills: SLR: Asahi Pentax Spotmatic SP, DSLR: Canon EOS Rebel XTi, Canon EOS 7D
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Fixed-Focus Lenses: D: Elitar 6.5mm 1:1.9, Wollensak-Revere 13mm 1:2.5 Velostigmat |
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ChromaticAberration
Joined: 23 Dec 2010 Posts: 819 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:13 am Post subject: |
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ChromaticAberration wrote:
This is one of those cases that neither your nor the original owner knew what they were buying and you were the one that came out on top.. I envy you! _________________ Body: Fujifilm X-E1
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jatt
Joined: 27 Jul 2010 Posts: 2
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:24 am Post subject: Still interested in selling |
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jatt wrote:
Hello,
Do you still have the lens and are you interested in selling for decent price... |
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fferreres
Joined: 27 Mar 2019 Posts: 4
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:35 am Post subject: |
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fferreres wrote:
I think the mention that 3 blades would be less complicated and more durable needs to rest. I had the situation where I had to open one of this, and it has in total 9 blades where the triangular part is because only the outer blade shows. So it's 9 in groups of 3. I've read Marco Corvina guess that the mechanism in Contaflex would benefit and that maybe this design minimized the torque needed for each blade. However, there being 9, I am not so sure this is the explanation. Also, this lens appeared on Rollei 1 year before Contare, and Contarex had about 400 units produced while Rollei about 4000.
I'd like to ask the designer regarding the triangular aperture. It is really unique, and having cleaned one, i'd also venture the mechanism on Rollei was also in need of something that would require less torque. The mechanism resembles that of the Rollei Tessar 200mm 4.0 and 35mm f1.4 Hopefully, you'll never have to deal with it. It really was hard to put back together, and had to learn it because of my love for this lens. It was 3 days of learning and extreme patience. |
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