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padiej
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 Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:08 am Post subject: ZEISS IKON ULTRON 50mm/1,8 |
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padiej wrote:
Good Day!
Monday a package was comming, inside the zeiss Ultron, about 38 Jears old -
It´s the lens with the konkav frontglass -
I tested it immediately - and I vergot to swith the Iso - so the first trials are taken with ISO 400
So i want show the results:
more pictures on flickr:
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This lens is from the West German Zeiss Line, I mean. There must be a connection with Voigtlander, I am searching for more information about this lens.
I find this side about Voigtlander:
http://www.taunusreiter.de/Cameras/Bessa_RF_histo.html
regards Peter
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:15 am Post subject: Re: ZEISS IKON ULTRON 50mm/1,8 |
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nemesis101 wrote:
Hi, what mount does this lens have?
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:23 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Gorgeous looking lens, and nice results from what I can see.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:36 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
congrats Peter! beautiful lens on your pentax
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
Very good. Congratulations for the pict, the lens and camera too 
I think it is M42, being mounted on a Pentax 
By the way, this lens was used on the Icarex and SL 706 http://www.camerapedia.org/wiki/Icarex (see why has the name Ultron) http://www.cameraguild.jp/voigtlander/icarex/sl706.htm and the Voig. http://www.camerapedia.org/wiki/Voigtl%C3%A4nder_VSL .
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padiej
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:06 am Post subject: |
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padiej wrote:
Thank you all - yes, it is a M42 - Lens
It is the top of my collection.
The sensor isn´t fine enought, to find out the limits, the comparsion with the Pentax SMC FA 50mm/1,4 is without output, the pictures are quite the same.
I am searching for the history of IKON - Zeiss Lenses. Is there an web-side?
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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bawang wrote:
Congratulation, out of curiosity, how much did you get it for?
I have been bidding on similar lens whenever it pop-up on the bay, but I am too much of a cheapskate to win These lens usually sells with a camera and I have too many cameras that were bundles and never get used.
From the pictures of it and from it, it's a keeper lens. |
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kuuan wrote:
some other, quite nice samples taken with this super lens:
http://www.dchome.net/viewthread.php?tid=512192
Andreas
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:23 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
| bawang wrote: |
Congratulation, out of curiosity, how much did you get it for?
I have been bidding on similar lens whenever it pop-up on the bay, but I am too much of a cheapskate to win These lens usually sells with a camera and I have too many cameras that were bundles and never get used.
From the pictures of it and from it, it's a keeper lens. |
They currently fetch 250...300 not depending on your definition not THAT expensive....
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padiej
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padiej wrote:
the price 216,70€ on ebay - It was a must lens - about 1970 - like me
so, I save my money now and go outside to use the lenses - I am happy with this passion and I thank you all for the good mood in this forum.
regards Peter
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padiej
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:55 am Post subject: |
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padiej wrote:
I won this lens in combination with a Zeiss IKON skoparex 35mm/3,5 about 100€ - the Voigtlander-Line
The Ultron is superb, the Skoparex - I don´t know - perhaps 100€ is to much for it.
But I am crazy sometimes -
I will show Pictures of both in all situations
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Orio wrote:
I think the VL Skoparex is a re-release of the Contarex lens. It should be good, but in any case, it's an interesting lens to have in a collection.
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padiej wrote:
this Sunflowers are very good - allways standing still with this great yellow and often is a bee inside
I will send another motives taken with the ultron, soon.
The skoparex gets an own thread.
regards PETER
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Orio wrote:
Great sunflower picture!!
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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padiej wrote:
Aperture Test:
100% size - not sharpend
f 1,8
f2,8
f4,0
f5,6
f8,0
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padiej wrote:
this is the whole scene - wonderfull concrete silo in Austria-Burgenland - view form working place
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Orio wrote:
I'd say it's acceptable wide open, good from f/2 and top at f/4
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padiej wrote:
Quicktest in Office - i can´t see any difference by 100% size
the ultron seems a little bit better
ULTRON 4,5m f5,6 distance:
PENTAX SMC FA 50/1,4 f5,6 4,5m distance
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estudleon wrote:
The Ultron 1,8 50 mm.
If I m not wrong, the Icarex was make as massive camera by Zeiss, while the professional line was the Contarex.
The contarex had a normal planar 50/2 with 6 in 4.
The Icarex had a tessar, panthar and a Ultron with 7 in 5 (first konkave)
And the planar for the rolleiflex SL and the aftermade Planar C/Y have 7 elements and the first not so konkave as the icarex, but have similar shame than this, not as the planar of the contarex.
The ultron of Icarex was better than the planar of Contarex?
Perhaps, isn't it?
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
| estudleon wrote: |
The contarex had a normal planar 50/2 with 6 in 4. |
Contarex line also had a 1.4/55 Planar, which migrated to Voigtlaender in form of 1.4/55 Ultron - it's the same lens design
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| The ultron of Icarex was better than the planar of Contarex? |
No, it was the same lens. The only difference could be in build quality, as Contarex lenses were produced in Oberkochen, while Icarex lenses (especially those marked Voigtlaender) were produced part in Oberkochen with Zeiss brand (like the Tessar I own), part in Germany somewhere without Zeiss brand (for whatever reason), part in Singhapour by Mamiya facility (if I remember correctly).
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