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huhging

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 132 Location: New York
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:31 am Post subject: |
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| What is a reasonable price for this lens? |
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luisalegria


Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 994 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:12 am Post subject: |
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The Polish dealer may have it almost right for one in very good condition, around $400.
Those guys seem to have more reasonable prices for the European equipment.
Let me qualify that - this Polish dealer wants only about twice as much as the reasonable price, which is pretty good, considering his competition (Gokevin, etc.). _________________ Pentax K100D, SV, SP1000, SP500, LX, SF10, Mamiya 1000TL, Sears/Ricoh TLS, Exakta VX, VXIIb, Olympus OM-10, Nikon FM, Zeiss Contaflex B, Retina Reflex S, IV, Rolleiflex, Speed Graphic & Meridian 4x5, misc. rangefinders and folders, several dozen lenses and etc., et. al., ad infinitum. |
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F16SUNSHINE


Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 2703 Location: Anacortes Washington
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:43 am Post subject: |
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I think that there is a dealer in Hungary that would take an order for one at a minimal charge  |
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luisalegria


Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 994 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:02 am Post subject: |
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"I think that there is a dealer in Hungary that would take an order for one at a minimal charge "
Good point !
He doesn't have any for sale at the moment though ? _________________ Pentax K100D, SV, SP1000, SP500, LX, SF10, Mamiya 1000TL, Sears/Ricoh TLS, Exakta VX, VXIIb, Olympus OM-10, Nikon FM, Zeiss Contaflex B, Retina Reflex S, IV, Rolleiflex, Speed Graphic & Meridian 4x5, misc. rangefinders and folders, several dozen lenses and etc., et. al., ad infinitum. |
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Attila


Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 16433 Location: Budapest,Hungary
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:33 am Post subject: |
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I have a couple of Pancolar 80mm and Biotar 75mm I try to never sell any of them. I can't First one will trade with Andy to Olympus 90mm f2 ,I will give him a Pancolar 80+Flektogon 20mm f2.8 MC.
400 USD a good price for fat Biotar. First one is priceless because so rare I bought mine for 400 EUR on friendly price. _________________
Olympus E-1,Bessa L,Bessa RF Skopar 10,5cm,Besa I Color Skopar 105mm,Olympus OM2n,Nikon FA,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version
Please visit my Ebay shop to support my reviews !
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BobDodds


Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Posts: 80
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:47 am Post subject: |
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It would take a lot of work on color white balance to make a modern lens work like this. Maybe halfway between neutral and warm, but no Expodisc or some such is like that. Their warm is way too warm. Or, use an old lens. I am going to carry this and Tomioka 55/1.2 for a while.
It is ironic that the 1930's and 1951 have in common close focusing, skinny shape, lots of diaphragm blades(18 or 20? I forget). The fat or WW2 era glass is great, about the same.
I see bubbles in glass of one 1951, and no bubbles in the other. The writing and markings have the same general look, but numbers are a little different in size and metal looks different in color between the two. Micro variations, micro history. One is R-Biotar.
I bought two seized-up fat biotars. One is a medical mount. I think they can be fixed. Glass is perfect.
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huhging

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 132 Location: New York
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Can anyone tell me if there is a reputable seller for this lens? |
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Attila


Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 16433 Location: Budapest,Hungary
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Exaklaus ,Cupog both are ebay seller. _________________
Olympus E-1,Bessa L,Bessa RF Skopar 10,5cm,Besa I Color Skopar 105mm,Olympus OM2n,Nikon FA,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version
Please visit my Ebay shop to support my reviews !
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BobDodds


Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Posts: 80
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:01 am Post subject: |
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These(yours above) pictures rebut the claim that biotar 75 does not saturate images. Look at the hat! Maybe there is a variation between 75's. I have a 1930's that is sharper than a particular 1951. I will test a different 1951 soon, maybe the first week of October.
http://www.pbase.com/recbo/czj75t1
http://www.pbase.com/recbo/image/92602700
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patrickh

Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 3594 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Luis
To die for - those Zeiss lenses certainly occupy a special place for everyone who has one
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D70 Nikon D200 Canon 40D
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, Nikkor 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 3004.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Kiron 28/2 Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Flektogon 35/2.4, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Arsat 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro,Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Jupiter 135/4, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8, 35/2.8
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8 |
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no-X


Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 292 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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I'm trying to find anyone who is able to rework 75/1.5 from exacta mount to M42 or Sigma SA and retain exact infinity focus. But I have no luck. Any tips? _________________ I'm not absolutely retarded, English simply isn't my mother tongue :s)
up-to 30mm: Vivitar (Tokina) Series 1 VMC 28/1.9, Vivitar (Komine) MC close-focus 28/2.8, Zeiss Distagon T* 25/2.8 ZS, Pentacon eMC 29/2.8
35mm: Super Takumar 35/2 PRO, S-M-C Takumar 35/2, S-M-C Takumar 35/3.5, CZJ eMC Flektogon 35/2.4, SC Curtagon 35/2.8, SC Baby-C 35/2.8, Vivitar 35/1.9
50mm: S-M-C Takumar 50/1.4, Tomioka Cosinon MC 55/1.4, Tomioka Yashinon 55/1.2, CZJ Biotar T 58/2, CZJ eMC Pancolar 50/1.8, MMZ Helios MC 44-3 58/2, Helios 77M 50/1.8, JOV Helios 77M-4 50/1.8, KMZ Zenitar M2s MC 50/2, KMZ Industar 50/3.5, MC Pentacon 50/1.8, MC Volna-9 50/2.8, Meostigmat 50/1.3, Polar 60/1.3
85mm: CZJ Biotar T 75/1.5 EX, CZJ eMC Pancolar 80/1.8, aJ Biometar 80/2.8 P6, KMZ Helios 40-2 85/1.5 (custom hybrid of 40 and 40-2), S-M-C Takumar 80/1.8, MG Telefogar V 90/3.5
over 100mm: KOMZ MC Jupiter 37AM 135/3.5 |
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luisalegria


Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 994 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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I made a non-destructive adapter Exakta->PK, using an M42->PK adapter and an Exakta rear lens cap. Its much less difficult than I thought it would be.
I think you could try doing the same with an M42-> Sigma adapter. It looks very similar to an M42->PK adapter.
Exakta-M42 would be possible but this will possibly require machining to get something acceptable. It is a bit of a design challenge. Perhaps you could try mating an M39-M42 adapter with that Exakta rear cap.
And it is pretty easy to adjust infinity focus on the Biotar. I should disassemble mine and take pictures to illustrate. _________________ Pentax K100D, SV, SP1000, SP500, LX, SF10, Mamiya 1000TL, Sears/Ricoh TLS, Exakta VX, VXIIb, Olympus OM-10, Nikon FM, Zeiss Contaflex B, Retina Reflex S, IV, Rolleiflex, Speed Graphic & Meridian 4x5, misc. rangefinders and folders, several dozen lenses and etc., et. al., ad infinitum. |
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kds315*


Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 577 Location: Weinheim/Germany
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thePiRaTE!!

Joined: 31 Oct 2008 Posts: 36 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Hi Luis, thanks for sharing the tempting pics and your PK solution. FWIW, I'm considering one, probably also an exacta mount for use on my K20, any further info on how you acccmplished it might tell me if it will be worth the effort - its a fairly expensive lens to have to experiment on, hehe. _________________
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no-X


Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 292 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:51 am Post subject: |
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could be helpful:
Adjusting infinity on Zeiss Biotar 75/1.5 by luisalegria:
http://forum.mflenses.com/adjusting-infinity-on-zeiss-biotar-75-1-5-t11692.html _________________ I'm not absolutely retarded, English simply isn't my mother tongue :s)
up-to 30mm: Vivitar (Tokina) Series 1 VMC 28/1.9, Vivitar (Komine) MC close-focus 28/2.8, Zeiss Distagon T* 25/2.8 ZS, Pentacon eMC 29/2.8
35mm: Super Takumar 35/2 PRO, S-M-C Takumar 35/2, S-M-C Takumar 35/3.5, CZJ eMC Flektogon 35/2.4, SC Curtagon 35/2.8, SC Baby-C 35/2.8, Vivitar 35/1.9
50mm: S-M-C Takumar 50/1.4, Tomioka Cosinon MC 55/1.4, Tomioka Yashinon 55/1.2, CZJ Biotar T 58/2, CZJ eMC Pancolar 50/1.8, MMZ Helios MC 44-3 58/2, Helios 77M 50/1.8, JOV Helios 77M-4 50/1.8, KMZ Zenitar M2s MC 50/2, KMZ Industar 50/3.5, MC Pentacon 50/1.8, MC Volna-9 50/2.8, Meostigmat 50/1.3, Polar 60/1.3
85mm: CZJ Biotar T 75/1.5 EX, CZJ eMC Pancolar 80/1.8, aJ Biometar 80/2.8 P6, KMZ Helios 40-2 85/1.5 (custom hybrid of 40 and 40-2), S-M-C Takumar 80/1.8, MG Telefogar V 90/3.5
over 100mm: KOMZ MC Jupiter 37AM 135/3.5 |
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