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fish4570
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 4514 Location: At the confluence of the Locust Fork of the Warrior River and Black Creek, Alabama
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
i once had a spiratone 28/2.8 in m42 that was a very good lens, especially with black and white. i am thinking of getting a nikon f-mount lens in 24 or 28. this is a fine thread on the 28s. _________________ Paul
I chase Light
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
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At one point I had Zeiss 2/35 ZF and Nikkor 28/2 Ais... I sold the Zeiss and kept the Nikkor. I don't think I ever will sell the Nikkor.
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Thanks. Nice photos. Just got my nikkor ais 28/2. It's on the way to join the family. Pentax K28/2, A28/2, kiron28/2 are waiting... Wait, do i miss something? _________________ La migliore cura di LBA � imparare una nuova lingua. Le meilleur rem�de de LBA est d'apprendre une nouvelle langue. La mejor cura del LBA es aprender una nueva lengua. |
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bonc
Joined: 19 Jan 2012 Posts: 17 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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bonc wrote:
@Attila: thanks
@hoanpham: it surely is a lovey lens |
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Chayelle
Joined: 04 Aug 2011 Posts: 55 Location: Arkansas
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Chayelle wrote:
@hoanpham: hope you really enjoy your new lens!!
I have been looking for this copy, hope I find one soon, too! _________________ Cheryle
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james
Joined: 25 Sep 2009 Posts: 308
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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james wrote:
hoanpham wrote: |
Anyone own the nikkor ais 28mm f2.0 ?
How is it compare to the other 28s f2.0 ? |
I've owned the Nikkor 28/2, ZF 2/28 and Leica R 28 Elamrit v.2.
The Zeiss surprisingly wasn't as sharp as I'd hoped, not dramatically more than the Nikkor (or so it seemed with my sample), STRONG vignetting and pretty steep field curvature close up. Some call this an 'artistic lens' but it was more of a pain in the ass than anything. Never warmed to it.
The Nikon suffers noticeable haze from spherical aberrations up to f/2.8 but makes it far more forgiving with skin tones. Pleasing bokeh and underlying crisp sharpness remains present. With all due respect to the 3rd party optics of the same time period mentioned above, I don't think a single one of them can best the Nikkor by any objective metric. The Nikkor 28/2.8 may be sharper close-up but is inferior to the faster lens for objects at distance and I'd rate the f/2 a better all-purpose lens.
Was always dubious about the Leica, figuring it was more legend than fact. I unexpectedly stumbled upon and purchased a fairly-priced 28 Elmarit v.2, forcing me to reconsider the prejudice. Sumptuous colors and subtle tonality I've not seen from aNy Nikkor or Zeiss, 3 dimensionality to subjects shot at MFD and wide-open, out-resolving the sensor by a great margin. 100% cropped JPEG's off my D700 are startling in the amount of recorded detail.
Sold the ZF to fund the Leica and worth every pfennig. |
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jjphoto
Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Posts: 406
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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jjphoto wrote:
Not my best 28, as discussed previously, but probably my most used one.
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
That just reminds me why I would love a FF digicam - wides look wide again... _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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uhoh7
Joined: 24 Nov 2010 Posts: 1300 Location: Idaho, USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:47 am Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
full:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7187/6844679645_515e56287e_o.jpg
leica 28/2 on nex 5n _________________ Making MFlenses safe for the letter *L* |
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Hood
Joined: 26 Jan 2012 Posts: 469 Location: Perth, Australia
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Hood wrote:
I have many 28's collected over the years. Some good, some crap, some I still have never tested. Haha.
I just read this thread start to finish, it has inspired me to pull them out again and test them all even just to share here so more people can see how different inexpensive lenses render in this focal.
....then we just need a thread like this for 35's, 50's, best ultra wide, best portrait focal and best tele. Haha. _________________
-Josh
Currently shooting:
Digital:Sony Nex-5, Nex-5n, Pentax KX, Pentax K30 and Fuji JZ100
Film: Minolta x700, Contax 137MD, Chinon Memotron, Minolta 500si, Minolta 700si, Canon Ex-auto, Minolta 35DL weathermatic, Pentax espio 738, Minolta Himatic-G, Olympus Trip 35, Elixa Reflex-B, Pentax MZ-60
Lens Collection:Slr Magic 28/2.8, Slr Magic 35/1.7, Minolta Rokkor 45/2, Minolta Rokkor 50/1.4, Minolta W-Rokkor-sg 28/3.5, Minolta 35-70/3.5, Minolta Rokkor-PF 55/1.9, Minolta W.Rokkor 28/3.5, Monolta MD 50/2*2, Minolta 50/1.7, Minolta zealox bellows, Minolta e.Rokkor 75/4.5, Sony 18-55 3.5/5.6, Sony 16/2.8, Asahi Smc Takumar 55/1.8, Asahi Smc Takumar 50/1.5, Meyer Gerlitz Dimoplan 50/2.8,Meyer Gerlitz Orestegon 50/1.8, Tamron 35/2.8, Tamron 70-220/4, Tamron aspherical 28-200 3.8-5.6, Seimar 28/2.8, Aus Jena Tessar 50/2.8, Industar 50/3.5, Industar 26m 50/2.8, Industar 61 55/2.8, Industar 69 28/2.8, Carenar 45/2.8, Pentacon electric 50/1.8, Pentacon 30/3.5, Pentacon 29/2.8, Helios 44m 58/2, Miida 35/2.8, Miida 75-205/3.8, Cosina 28/2.8, Kenlock 135/2.8, Kenlock 35/2.8, Kenlock Mc-tor 28/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2, Vivitar 28-85 3.5-4.5 macro, Vivitar 28-80 3.5-5.6 macro, Exacta 35-70 3.5-4.8 macro, Sigma 35-70 2.8-4, Sigma 100-200 4.5, SamYong 18-28 4-4.5, Photax-Pharagon 35/2.8, Travenar 35/2.8, Travenar 50/1.8, Tokina 70-210 4-5.6, Tokina 28/2.8, Promura 200/3.5, Sirius 20-200 3.9, Soligor 200/3.5, Canon FL 50/1.8, Canon FD 35-70 3.5-4.5, Auto Focal 75-200/4.5, Zenit Zenitar 50/2,Tokina353 35-300mm(KX), Pentax 18-55(KX), Pentax 35-80(KX), Sigma 14mm F2.8(KX), Sigma 70-200mm(KX), Sigma 24-70mm(KX), Pentax 35-135 macro(KX), plus I have a few in for service right now and I'm always collecting more...
It's been a few years now, I need to sit down and update this list...it has grown considerably! haha
My Blog:
http://www.joshpereraphoto.com/
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monkjason
Joined: 02 Dec 2013 Posts: 301 Location: Beijing, China
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:13 am Post subject: |
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monkjason wrote:
Mine is Konica UC-Hexanon 28/1.8, the lens shows amazing color and bokah at wide open, plus the 18-cm focus distance, though it spent me USD 499...... _________________ I like Hexanon and EBC.
Cameras: Pentax K01, Konica T3N chrome and black, Minolta XD11, Porst CR-7
Konica Lenses: UC Hexanon 35/2, UC Hexanon 28/1.8AE, UC Hexanon 15/2.8AE Fish-eye, UC Hexanon 80-200/4AE, UC Hexanon 45-100/3.5AE, UC Hexanon 400/5.6AE, FL-Hexanon 300/6.3AE, Hexanon 85/1.8AE, Hexanon 24/2.8 F22 Version, Hexanon 35/2AE, M-Hexanon 50/2, M-Hexanon 35/2
Minolta Lenses: MC Rokkor-X 35/1.8,MD Rokkor-X 50/1.2
Fujifilm Lenses: Porst UMC 50/1.2 |
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bruzzo
Joined: 05 Jul 2012 Posts: 153
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:41 am Post subject: |
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bruzzo wrote:
I've only had three 28mm primes so far, so by no means I'm claiming them one of the best out of all 28mms.
I think best out of the three:
1. Minolta MC W-Rokkor-SI 28mm F2.5
Just great performance overall from close up to portraits to sceneries and landscapes. Down side is Minolta SR mount so only usable on mirrorless or you have to modify / use adapter with optics to achieve infinity focus for DSLRs.
2. Vivitar 28mm F2 Close Focus
It's tough to choose between this and the Minolta cause lens is so much fun with it's close focus capability and small size! It's also come with different mounts from Nikon to Pentax, not sure if it has M42, if so you can basically use it on most DSLRs on the market nowadays given you find one. Close Focus is superb, landscape and scenery however is imo not in the level of the Minolta but still very usable.
3. Makinon 28mm F2.8
I think I saw somewhere saying this is one of the worst 28mms. QC is quite abysmal I think and flare control is not very good either. But I mostly use it for reverse macro and I find it not bad at all given it's cheap price. In the end, I don't think there's actually a bad 28mm given you've given them all a purpose . |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5019 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
bruzzo wrote: |
I've only had three 28mm primes so far, so by no means I'm claiming them one of the best out of all 28mms.
I think best out of the three:
1. Minolta MC W-Rokkor-SI 28mm F2.5
Just great performance overall from close up to portraits to sceneries and landscapes. Down side is Minolta SR mount so only usable on mirrorless or you have to modify / use adapter with optics to achieve infinity focus for DSLRs.
2. Vivitar 28mm F2 Close Focus
It's tough to choose between this and the Minolta cause lens is so much fun with it's close focus capability and small size! It's also come with different mounts from Nikon to Pentax, not sure if it has M42, if so you can basically use it on most DSLRs on the market nowadays given you find one. Close Focus is superb, landscape and scenery however is imo not in the level of the Minolta but still very usable.
3. Makinon 28mm F2.8
I think I saw somewhere saying this is one of the worst 28mms. QC is quite abysmal I think and flare control is not very good either. But I mostly use it for reverse macro and I find it not bad at all given it's cheap price. In the end, I don't think there's actually a bad 28mm given you've given them all a purpose . |
Well my Makinon 28mm is quite good...mind you I used to use it stopped down on general shots, but e.g the common Hexanon 28mm is superior and worth paying a few £s more. _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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Aanything
Joined: 27 Aug 2011 Posts: 2201 Location: Piacenza, Italy
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
The best 28 among the ones I have/have had is quite easily my Contax Distagon 2.8/28.
It is simply the best I tried under every aspect: great sharpness, incredible contrast and flare resistance. I hear corners of my AEG version aren't as good as in the later MM, but I can't see any degradation on aps-c.
Second place is for the Minolta MC 2.5/28, which, apart from coatings not up to recent lenses standards, is simply great. _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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sceptic
Joined: 01 Jun 2013 Posts: 255
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:49 am Post subject: |
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sceptic wrote:
My best 28 is/was as above; the C/Y Zeiss 28/2.8. I was dumb enough to sell it a few years ago, and now they´re hard to find at reasonable prices. My current favourite is the Konica Hexanon 28/3.5, 7-element version. Good sharpness and contrast, although I rarely shoot 28 mm anymore. My favourite in terms of "character" is my Tamron Adaptamatic 28/2.8. Found it dirty and in poor condition at a thrift shop and paid about 7 USD for it. Big and heavy (takes 62 mm filters) and focuses down to about 0.2 meters. The coatings aren´t exactly up to current standards, but sharpness is quite satisfactory. Here it is next to my Konica:
Auto Tamron 28/2.8 by scepticswe, on Flickr _________________ Sony A7R and wildly varying flora of lenses |
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rafa1981
Joined: 15 Jul 2010 Posts: 142
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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rafa1981 wrote:
Nikkor 28 f2 Ai or Ai-S for portability and bang for the buck. Sharp to the corners at f8 on FF at 24MP. Flare resistant. Can work either as a landscape lens or as a close-up one. At wide apertures performs better at close distances than near infinity (as it should).
Zuiko OM 28 f3.5. More bang for the buck than the lens above. Outstanding resolution at f8 but flares more easily than the Nikkor. Amazing form factor. The lens to have for closed down work at a budget.
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/815364/0?keyword=zuiko
SMC-M 28 f2.8. So so optics, not as sharp in the corners but the form factor, color rendition and contrast is very appealing.
I´m not so picky with WA lenses at first apertures, I don't tend to use them either, so I can't comment so much about it.
A lens with the form factor and resolution of the Zuiko (or Nikkor), the contrast and colors of the Pentax and the flare resistance of the Nikkor would be the perfect 28. I guess that this is what Leica is about (excluding the form factor). _________________ My flickr.
Gear: Constantly evolving.
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bychance
Joined: 24 Apr 2013 Posts: 345 Location: Kent, England
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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bychance wrote:
I have read most of this thread and it occurs to me that there is no discussion as to how a particular lens functions on any given system, let alone which specific camera the thing was assessed on. Surely, each lens/camera combination will give differing results and distort any generalisaton of the lenses merits. _________________ I got where I am by avoiding where I was going.
Now where was I? |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5019 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
bychance wrote: |
I have read most of this thread and it occurs to me that there is no discussion as to how a particular lens functions on any given system, let alone which specific camera the thing was assessed on. Surely, each lens/camera combination will give differing results and distort any generalisaton of the lenses merits. |
Well it doesn't make any difference with a film camera as it's just a light tight box separating the lens from the photographer _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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zelda_n64
Joined: 26 Aug 2011 Posts: 163 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:43 am Post subject: I love my Welmy |
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zelda_n64 wrote:
Hi all,
I have posted about my Welmy 2.8 28mm lens before, but I will again.
This is one of the best lenses I own, albeit from an unknown manufacturer. It was acquired at a carboot sale here in the UK for £5.
I really like the softness, bokeh and sharpness of this lens. Wide open maybe not to everyone's taste - but it is a gem.
wide open 1/1250s
The Welmy on the left - comparison in size to the M42 Cosinon auto MC 28mm f2.8 (right)
Welmy at ISO 200, 1/320 sec, f8
Crop of the above
The Welmy 28mm 2.5 using a lens reversing ring at ISO 200, 1/80 sec
F8, ISO 400, 1/200 sec
And I do really like the dreamy effect it creates wide open
I may be biased but this 28mm lens knocks the socks off of the others that I have and apart from the Cosinon, I forget which ones I have. |
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tromboads
Joined: 29 May 2012 Posts: 1782 Location: Melbourne AU
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:14 am Post subject: |
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tromboads wrote:
yeah that's a bit much for my delicate young eyes. But hey, different strokes for different folks |
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bernhardas
Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Posts: 1437
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:19 am Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
edited
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zelda_n64
Joined: 26 Aug 2011 Posts: 163 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:00 am Post subject: |
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zelda_n64 wrote:
bernhardas wrote: |
Do you have any information about the lens scheme? I always suspect that the very long 28ers are some sort of Distagon inspired design? |
Bernhardas, I can't find any information at all about the Welmy on the internet - apart from a company did exist in the early part of the 20th Century making the Welmy Six (manufactured by Taisei Kōki). I believe this company ceased long before this Welmy 28mm 2.5 came into existence.
As far as the lens scheme goes I have no idea and not sure how I would find out. I did buy a 2nd one as soon as one was listed on ebay and it shot exactly the same - so the lens does not have any fault. I have only ever seen 2 others for sale since I have had mine (the one I purchased & one that sold on ebay for cheap). There is currently a 135mm 2.8 Welmy on Ebay UK - again unsure who the actual manufacturer is.
I sold the 2nd one I bought (for what I paid) to a young chap in The Netherlands after he saw my photos on this forum and after he asked to buy it.
The original Welmy 28mm thread is here: http://forum.mflenses.com/welmy-28mm-25-pentax-pk-mount-serial-no-partially-hidden-t58259.html |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Much earlier in this thread I reported on my Vivitar 2.8/28 Close Focus. More recently I had the opportunity to acquire a near mint copy of the f/2 version. I find the f/2 superior at wide open and superior at close distances, but maybe not quite as good at distance. I will have to test more before being certain about the distance comment.
At wide open f/2:
f/5.6 or 8
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Beautiful samples Woodrim! _________________ ---------------------------------
The Peculiar Apparatus Of Victorian Steampunk Photography: 100+ Genuine Steampunk Camera Designs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B92829NS |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
That Welmy 28 is probably made by Sun. I had it as a Soligor, didn't rate it, soft and glowy until f5.6. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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TijmenDal
Joined: 22 Sep 2011 Posts: 206
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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TijmenDal wrote:
One of my favorite 28mm's is the Olympus 28mm f/3.5, though I don't use the focal length a whole lot. I like the flaring and the colors are nice and warm. And it's tiny, which I really, really like. Size is a huge factor for me. _________________ //Tijmen
http://cargocollective.com/tijmendal |
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