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Andrew G.
Joined: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 159 Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:20 am Post subject: |
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Andrew G. wrote:
So far, I've accumulated four 28mm lenses...
My very first 28 was a Nikkor 2.8cm f/3.5 F; it's also my oldest 28, being manufactured around 1963. It doesn't have the sharpest corners and it doesn't focus very close (0.6m); but considering the fact that it's single-coated, it's actually surprisingly flare/ghost-resistant and contrasty enough. Another big plus (in my opinion) is the diaphragm, consisting of 5 straight blades. This is a very unique trait for a Nikkor, as it was Nikon's only F-mount lens to have 5 blades. The simple diaphragm makes for intensely-sharp 10-pointed sunstars; this, coupled with its decent flare/ghost resistance, makes it a prime candidate for night photography.
I then ventured into the land of Vivitar for some reason, in search for something better. I was disappointed with what I found...
My second 28 was a Vivitar (Kiron) 28mm f/2.5 preset (T-mount). Muted colors, low contrast, horrendous flare/ghosting.. not my cup of tea. I still have it, only because the preset version isn't as common as the regular fixed-mount version.
My third 28 was a Vivitar (Tokina) 28mm f/2.5 TX. Same performance as above, even though the TX is a more modern optic. I still have it, only because it's just that mediocre.
My fourth and most recently acquired 28 is a Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 Ai-S. I had been lusting over this lens for quite some time and finally found one locally for $200. This is by far, my best 28mm lens. It's insanely sharp, especially stopped down a little. It has the least amount of barrel distortion of all of my 28s, has the highest contrast and focuses very close (0.2m), making it a great on-the-fly macro lens. It also has rather decent bokeh for a wide prime. The only drawbacks are that my sample has curved blades for some odd reason (making for soft-pointed sunstars) and that it flares/ghosts a little more than the ancient f/3.5.
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DSLR: Nikon D40x
SLR: Nikon N2000, Nikomat FTn
Glass:
Nikon:28mm f/2.8 Ai, 28mm f/2.8 Ai-S, 2.8cm f/3.5 F, 28mm f/3.5 Ai-S, 50mm f/1.8 Ai, (2) 50mm f/1.8 Series E, 55mm f/3.5 Micro K, 55mm f/3.5 Micro Ai, 100mm f/2.8 Series E, 105mm f/2.5 F, 105mm f/2.5 Ai, 105mm f/2.5 Ai-S, 200mm f/4 Ai-S, Process-Nikkor 260mm f/10, TC-200
Third-Party: Vivitar 28mm f/2.5 preset, Vivitar 28mm f/2.5 TX, Tamron 28mm f/2.8 Adapt-A-Matic (v. 1), Vivitar 35mm f/1.9 (Canon FD), Vivitar 35mm f/2.8 T4, Tamron 135mm f/2.8 Adapt-A-Matic, Vivitar 135mm f/3.5 preset, Vivitar 200mm f/3.5, Soligor 200mm f/3.5 T4, Star-D 500mm f/8 Mirror, Sigma 15-30mm f/3.5-4.5 AF, Tamron 28-70mm f/3.5-4.5 Adaptall-2 (44A), Hanimex 35-70mm f/2.8-3.8, [x2] Tamron SP 35-80mm f/2.8-3.8 Adaptall-2 (01A), Tokina AT-X 50-250mm f/4-5.6, Soligor 55-135mm f/3.5 T4, Vivitar 70-150mm f/3.8 (one-touch), Vivitar 75-205mm f/3.8 (one-touch), Soligor C/D 78-210mm f/3.5, Soligor C/D 100-300mm f/5
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blarf
Joined: 04 Jan 2012 Posts: 5
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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blarf wrote:
A 28/2.8 Ai-S was my first, and only 28 lens. While I still haven't warmed up to it after all these years, I can't quite bring myself to get rid of it. The close focus and nearly non-existent distortion come in handy from time to time. But 28mm isn't terribly wide on a crop body, but it felt just wide enough to be not a normal lens.
I've mostly replaced it with a Sigma 30/1.4, which is the antithesis of the Ai-S lens. It's big, bulky, not built very well, suffers from some wicked CA, and it's difficult to focus automatically or manually... but when it does it's got fantastic bokeh and color.
Nikkor 28/2.8 @ ƒ/2.8
Sigma 30/1.4 @ ƒ/2.8
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Someone died a poodle pink????
Isn't that animal curelty?
Nice shot though. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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GrahamNR17
Joined: 17 Jan 2009 Posts: 1855 Location: Norfolk, UK
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
Tamron 28mm f2.5, because it oozes character. Also a Tokina RMC 28/2.8, but I'm going to off-load that because it's too clinically sharp. |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
NozPhoto wrote: |
My favorite 28mm is a sigma 28 F1.8 It is the sharpest 28 I have, sharper at 1.8 than my others at F4 (and that's saying something!) |
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
I had the older AF sigma 28/1.8 for a while but wasn't impressed. Resolution was poor at larger apertures and vignetting awful on ff. I suspect there's been a few versions though. |
I that is the AF lens EX 1.8/28, I can assure you that this new series offers some excellent lenses. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
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Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
GrahamNR17 wrote: |
Tamron 28mm f2.5, because it oozes character. |
Jimmy637 wrote: |
SMC PENTAX-M 28mm f2.8 is my go to 28mm lens. It just does not disappoint. |
I agree to those two lenses: very, very good! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
http://www.retrocamera.de |
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blarf
Joined: 04 Jan 2012 Posts: 5
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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blarf wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Someone died a poodle pink????
Isn't that animal curelty?
Nice shot though. |
I thought I was seeing things at first, but, yep someone died their poodle. He didn't seem to mind, however. |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7776 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
Blarf, I want that buggy space frame ! _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:16 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Someone died a poodle pink????
Isn't that animal curelty?
Nice shot though. |
Dyed - it's less cruel that way. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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uhoh7
Joined: 24 Nov 2010 Posts: 1300 Location: Idaho, USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:11 am Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
thread continues with good posts--TY
Usually we have 3 feet of snow at this point: not this year..
Leica 28/2
full of last:
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:35 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I've been enjoying the pictures in this thread, nice work!
@uhoh7, thinking you might be in the Stanley Basin area (?) and the word I get
from folks in my hometown (Sandpoint, ID) is the snow is scarce there, too. Bad
news for a ski resort town.
Nice pics, though! |
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uhoh7
Joined: 24 Nov 2010 Posts: 1300 Location: Idaho, USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:31 am Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
I've been enjoying the pictures in this thread, nice work!
@uhoh7, thinking you might be in the Stanley Basin area (?) and the word I get
from folks in my hometown (Sandpoint, ID) is the snow is scarce there, too. Bad
news for a ski resort town.
Nice pics, though! |
40 miles south
leica goes indoors:
one funny thing about the little beast: focus ring light as a feather. At first I thought it was my copy--but others report the same. This in contrast to other M lenses.
snow drought from the grand canyon up in the west, i think----though not sure about Canada. _________________ Making MFlenses safe for the letter *L* |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:32 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Lovely pair of photos, uhoh!
Banff is getting the snow, and looks like Whistler isn't doing much better than Schweitzer.
You must have like a 10-15 minute drive to Sun Valley, if that. |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5019 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:42 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
****I then ventured into the land of Vivitar for some reason, in search for something better. I was disappointed with what I found... ***
No problem with your view if you have plenty of money but if you can't afford the best lenses, then the Vivitar 28mm f2.8 and close focus version are quite good lenses (well on film)...yep you need a hood sometimes for flare but I would still recommend them if you can pick them up cheap.
Vivitar 28mm f2.8 Komine, min focus @ 0.3 metre
Vivitar 28mm f2.8 Komine close focus version, min focus @ 0.23 metre
_________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:13 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I think the problem with Vivitar is the lack of QC, there's a lot of variation in quality between copies. All the Vivitars I've had have been pretty poor, hence I sold em all.
I took my Hexanon 3.5/38 EE version out the other day and I'm yet again amazed by the amount of detail it renders and the sense of depth and dimensionality the images it produces have. I'll never part with this lens and know i can't find a better 28mm without spending a small fortune and arguably I wouldn't gain much of anything in IQ terms.
_________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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berraneck
Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 972 Location: prague, czech republic
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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berraneck wrote:
iangreenhalgh1: not that these photos aren´t interesting, but they don´t tell much about performance of the lens but the konica 28/3.5 is known to be nice lens _________________ equipment doesn´t count, good photographs do |
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NozPhoto
Joined: 24 Dec 2011 Posts: 16 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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NozPhoto wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
I had the older AF sigma 28/1.8 for a while but wasn't impressed. Resolution was poor at larger apertures and vignetting awful on ff. I suspect there's been a few versions though. |
I don't know which version mine is, but I've never had a problem with vignetting (though I've only shot maybe a dozen rolls of film with it) or lack of resolution. As a bonus, it does great work in IR as well. |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Maybe these single frame shots will give greater insight into the Hexanon's IQ.
_________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Chayelle
Joined: 04 Aug 2011 Posts: 55 Location: Arkansas
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Chayelle wrote:
Very nice pics and processing on these.
Where were these pictures taken?
I like the color... _________________ Cheryle
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Millom, Cumbria, UK, the railway station is 100 yards from my house. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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uhoh7
Joined: 24 Nov 2010 Posts: 1300 Location: Idaho, USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:40 am Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Maybe these single frame shots will give greater insight into the Hexanon's IQ.
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as said the shots are fun, but PP dominates. Really impossible to tell anything about the lens.
However, you do show us what you use it for _________________ Making MFlenses safe for the letter *L* |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:56 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Yes, I posted em more to show ya why I love it and how I use it, it really excels at this type of work as it gives you an image where everything is razor sharp (fully stopped down of course) and has no discernible distortion, which makes it perfect for making these stitched shots. This lens and my Tokina 3.5/17 are the lenses I use all the time and I wouldn't part with either of them for love nor money.
I do get a greater sense of depth and dimension with the Hexanon 3.5/28 than any of my other lenses though, Tokina 17 included, not sure why but it's definitely there and obvious to my eyes at least, when comparing to shots I make with other lenses.
I'm exploring perspective at the moment and using just the Hexanon 3.5/28 as it is so good for this sort of work.
In my eyes, the only real weakness of this Hexanon is the way it renders out of focus areas, very smooth and very good for a wide angle lens, but the transition from in focus to out of focus is very gradual and the bokeh just isn't very artistic, that's the main reason I still sometimes use my Hoya 2.8/28 (Tokina SL28) as it has painterly bokeh that I adore. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Chayelle
Joined: 04 Aug 2011 Posts: 55 Location: Arkansas
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Chayelle wrote:
Hoya 2.8/28 (Tokina SL28) as it has painterly bokeh that I adore.
Perhaps you could give us an example of this lens, as well... _________________ Cheryle
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Here ya go:
#1
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_________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Chayelle
Joined: 04 Aug 2011 Posts: 55 Location: Arkansas
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Chayelle wrote:
...painterly focus...
I see what you mean by this.
Very nice, and I love the colors!!
Well presented... _________________ Cheryle
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