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LucisPictor
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Perhaps he has also used a radioactive Yashinon lens: 
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Riku
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| These days they are making tourist tours in Pripyat, abandoned "ghost town" near Chernobyl. Radiation levels are safe as long as you dont touch anything. It would be interesting place to visit, everything is left exactly like it was in 1986 with all soviet symbols. It's really really sad story. |
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Borges
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Very interesting story of a photographer, thank you for sharing!
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Attila
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I worked 13 yrs in Nuclear Power Plant of Paks, Hungary. I worked 3 yrs in reactor control room, my responsibility was to control nuclear reactor. Before this control room work I spent 5 yrs in primary circuit rooms as stuff member I spent this years in radioactive work place. Look my kids  nothing was wrong ... Chernobyl a real horror story, party leader instructed the power station staff to turn off all defense system! and ... You know result...
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Orio
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The people who first came there to try to control the fire, normal firemen, no special equipment, were real heroes, they knew they were going to die for this but they did it anyway. IF they didn't come there and manually act on the fire, the consequences may have been much worse than they have already been.
I really regard those people like heroes, they sacrificed their lives to save not only their country, but the whole Europe we can say.
Much respect and honour for them.
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LucisPictor
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Of course! I like to apologize for my inappropriate funny remark. 
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Cams in use: EOS 40D, EOS 350D, EOS 50e, EOS 500, Spotmatic SPII, EXA I & 1c, Zenit EM; Oly 35RC,Minolta Hi-Matic E & F, Ricoh 500RF, Yashica Electro 35 GS, FED-3b and some others...
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Orio
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| LucisPictor wrote: | | Of course! I like to apologize for my inappropriate funny remark. |
I was not refering to your comment, Carsten
Just a generic comment, I am struck by these episodes of true heroism, like the firemen in NYC on 9/11. People who generously give their lives to help others.
In the case of Chernobyl this was even more meaningful because it was not only dangerous, they knew precisely they were going to die.
I think this is the best part of humanity, and it makes me sad sometimes to see how these acts are forgotten quickly, while history maybe remembers more stupid leaders, or ever worse, horrible tragic leaders.
There's something deeply wrong in all this.
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Attila
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Hundreds of thousand Soviet soldiers and Ukraine workers died after they covered the burned reactor to defense our ass. Radioactivity in Hungary was high after the accident at least 20-30x more at every place than normal.Wind s brought material of nuclear fuel and was incredible radioactive, if they couldn't cover it. Not just Ukraine has serious danger , but half of Europe too.
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Orio
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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I was thinking about, they make stupid movies about just everything, why no one has ever thought of making a movie on the life of one of the Chernobyl firemen.
They were simple people like you or me, they had their families and children, maybe little children like yours, Carsten, and surely they were enjoying their lives, and one night there is this call and they have to go and have to decide quickly if to sacrifice themselves and their life, also the happiness of their wives and children, to save potentially millions of other lives. They knew there was no coming back, that they were going to die horribly with incredible pain and suffering, that they were not going to embrace anymore their parents, wives, that they were not going to see their children grow and become adult....
Think about it... it's so terrible and so big, at the same time, what they have done. Would you, in the middle of the night, wake up, say goodbye to wife and children, and go sacrifice yourself and the happiness of your family as well?
That's tough.
These were great forgotten man.
THESE men make the history of humanity.
Now journalists and historians seem all concerned about the incident of Lady Diana and the divorce of Mr. Sarkozy.
Shame on them all.
SOrry for the rant.
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Orio
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Attila wrote: | | Hundreds of thousand Soviet soldiers and Ukraine workers died after they covered the burned reactor to defense our ass. Radioactivity in Hungary was high after the accident at least 20-30x more at every place than normal.Wind s brought material of nuclear fuel and was incredible radioactive, if they couldn't cover it. Not just Ukraine has serious danger , but half of Europe too. |
I know, all true.
Currents have brought a lot of radioactivity here too. After 20 years people in the environmental control tell me that if you point the radio activity meter to the ground the values are still 4-5 times higher than they used to be before Chernobyl.
And the streams which brought the trash here have necessarily passed over Hungary so you must have gotten even more than that on your land.
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Attila
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Anyway wasn't a bad joke I like this humor too.
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Orio
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Attila wrote: | | Anyway wasn't a bad joke I like this humor too. |
Yes, no problem.
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Riku
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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I was just a kid when this happened and used to be afraid of new nuclear accidents...
I'm not sure that liquidators knew about the dangers of radiation. They were under soviet military command and would have been severely punished, had they not done the job. Heroes nevertheless. The ones who are still alive have lost their health. Many aren't getting any help or compensation for what they did because there are no official documents of them ever working there. |
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bob955i
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| The fallout from Chernobyl got as far as over here too - radiation levels in some areas of the Scotland/England border region were a great deal higher than normal a few months after the disaster and animal movement was suspended for a while too IIRC. |
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