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ChrisLilley wrote:
| BobDodds wrote: |
| The best Nikkors and Zeiss are about equal. You can see a Nikkor non-AI 20mm f4 review here that shows legendary Nikkor realism for landscapes. |
Link for 'here'?
| BobDodds wrote: |
| Zeiss Distagon 21mm f2.8 is affordable in Nikon mount but really high priced in Contax because they're not allowed to use radioactive materials anymore. I guess it was thoriated like all the manufacturers did in a few fl's. Most thoriated lenses are really great but Zuiko 55mm is a dud compared to non-thoriated 50mm f1.2. |
Interesting. I haven't seen a 21mm in the modern Zeiss ZF line, it seems to only go down to 25mm. Which Nikon-mount Distagon 21mm were you referring to? Is it an older line made in Nikon mount?
| BobDodds wrote: |
| For crop cams we want something rectilinear 10 to 20mm. Not many choices. |
There are plenty of choices  in DX sensor, autofocus, zooms. A round up of popular current ones shows seven choices (in French).
I agree that in MF, since MF lenses are predominantly made for older full frame cameras, the choice of non-fish MF primes below 20mm is severely restricted because such lenses were of limited utility and hard to make for that sensor size.
Unfortunately primes are made by few manufacturers now. Nikon seems nowadays to only produce specialist lenses (Micro, Tilt/Shift) in primes; the rest of their range is split between two lines: very expensive constant aperture 2.8 AF zooms for pro use and still fairly expensive f/3.5-f/huge AF zooms for consumers. Cosina (with their Zeiss and Voigtländer lines) are one of the few making MF primes, but these are all full frame so go to 25mm only so far. (The older Cosina Voigtländer range had 12mm and 15mm non-retrofocus lenses, which required mirror lockup.)
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