Why shoot on film in digital age ?

Attila · Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 16433 Location: Budapest,Hungary

I would like to see your opinion why we should shoot on film even if so many great digital bodies are available.
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bob955i · Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 1841 Location: Scotland

Velvia 50.... Wink

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Attila · Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 16433 Location: Budapest,Hungary

and Larry

These to thing started to me shoot again on film.

I never seen similar beautiful nature shoots what Velvia can do.
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Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
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Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
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bob955i · Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 1841 Location: Scotland

The fact that you can get various PS actions to (try and) emulate films like Velvia may say more about the end users than digital photography itself.
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Attila · Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 16433 Location: Budapest,Hungary

Did you tried ?
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Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
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F16SUNSHINE · Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:41 pm Post subject:

Cosmin and Iha street shoots also. Film has a different (gritty and more pained) emotion. I guess you can make this in PS but not the same. Especially with Monochromes.
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F16SUNSHINE · Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:41 pm Post subject:

Cosmin and Iha street shoots also. Film has a different (gritty and more pained) emotion. I guess you can make this in PS but not the same. Especially with Monochromes.
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bob955i · Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 1841 Location: Scotland

@ Attila:

No, because I'm still stuck in the dark ages with PS Elements 2 which doesn't support actions or 16 bit for that matter.... Laughing

Everything digital I've ever posted here has been 8 bit. Embarassed

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JoeCool · Joined: 08 Jun 2008 Posts: 73 Location: Kassel/Germany

As an amateur, i just do what is fun for me. I do both digital and film, but my digital cam is no DSLR, it is a "bridge". When i got this digicam, i suddenly discovered the joy of photographic work and rediscovered film cameras.
Film is more forgiving, less blow out in the highlights.
I like the delay between taking the shot and see what you get. It is sort of a nice tension.
Film delivers a real product, a negative or slide, which you can see and grab with your fingers and do what you want with it. Not only digits....
Different film material gives different feel to the images.
Full frame chemical sensor for my budget.
Nice big viewfinder with split screen in my Yashica SLR for my myopic eyes. Do I find that in DSLR? How much do I pay for that?
When shooting film, i am more thoughtful of what am i doing. Not always.....but mostly.

Gerd

poilu · Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 3374 Location: Greece

portrait on film (even negative) is still way superior than digital
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maddog10 · Joined: 08 Apr 2008 Posts: 1003 Location: Maryland, USA

How about true Black and White, not conversions.
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Attila · Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 16433 Location: Budapest,Hungary

Attila · Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 16433 Location: Budapest,Hungary

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A G Photography · Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 984 Location: Bologna - Italy

I mainly agree with F16SUNSHINE. In B&W there's still no way to digitally emulate film getting the same results.

There are a lot of tech explainations but basically it's a different medium and you have transitions in colors and tones that are very different and in B&W this is dramatically evident.
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