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maddog10



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bob955i wrote:
Exakta.... Wink


Ok, explain.....

I am not familiar with Exakta.
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Attila



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am waiting for light meter after when I got it I will try it for sure. Currently I love more modern cameras. What is a benefits from Exakta ? They are pretty anything else ?
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Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every Exakta (not the Exa) has the capability to accept two film holders so that as one shoots, the exposed film is wound into the second holder.

When you've shot enough on one roll, you use the camera's built in film knife to cut the film and you can then remove the holder containing the exposed film and the partly used holder as well - you lose the film section between each holder naturally.

You can then pop in a different film and away you go again....
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Attila



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked I forgot that, this is a very nice feature!
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Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
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bob955i



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love Exaktas and the whole ethos behind their design Attila.

Camera system of choice for National Geographic in the '50s and 60's. Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

German product... they are always before competitors at least in the past.
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Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another reason:

Kodak BW400CN. Some people do not like it, but I just love it.
Excellent results with my rangefinder cams and SLRs and still ever so convinient. You can get it developed in any lab...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very true - most of the "modern" features we see today have their roots in the past from Germany.

The whole SLR and SLR system concept for one....

And back to why we should shoot film:

Ilford Pan-F 50.
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Medium Format: Mamiya RB67 Pro-S, Pentacon Six TL, Yashica 635
Rangefinder: Rank-Mamiya 4B
Bridge: Minolta DiMage 7i
P&S: Olympus XA-3
Lenses by the following makers:
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad part is they was leader in the past hundred years and now ? Everything is manufactured in Japan, China. Perhaps same good as well, but I would live to see Made in Germany.
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Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't think we'll ever see that again Attila. Sad

Still, at least we still have all those lovely cameras to shoot lots of yummy film with. Laughing
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Medium Format: Mamiya RB67 Pro-S, Pentacon Six TL, Yashica 635
Rangefinder: Rank-Mamiya 4B
Bridge: Minolta DiMage 7i
P&S: Olympus XA-3
Lenses by the following makers:
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have only just ‘Restarted’ shooting film this year and I am doing it just for the fun of it.
I spent many years shooting film and doing most of my own darkroom work or being directly involved in it. I have had film digitalised since the 1980’s and I have always enjoyed and had a great deal of respect for digital.
Now I have the time I shoot 35mm film (Snaps) on my AX1, AX2, Nikon EM and ME Super purely for the fun of doing something different. The little AX cameras let me take quick snaps and the SLRs allow me to use my lenses on another format. Shooting with the Zenitar 16mm and 8mm Peleng on 35mm is great fun.
I honestly believe film can’t do anything digital can’t. It can emulate or even better any film make or type but a 48bit film scan can also contain a good deal of information to play with.
Live and let live, it’s all photography and it can all be good fun
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LucisPictor wrote:
Another reason:

Kodak BW400CN. Some people do not like it, but I just love it.
Excellent results with my rangefinder cams and SLRs and still ever so convinient. You can get it developed in any lab...


I saw your results, and was blown away...isn't if a funny thing, if you look on photo.net and other "big" forums, the consensus was that VW400CN was crap! Just goes to show us about taking internet comments with a grain or two of salt!

I ended up putting BW400CN into the Yashica Electro 35, and will be processing it soon.

And...yet ANOTHER reason to shoot with film: DR5.com! where you send in your black and white print film and they make transparencies out of it. It scans like a DREAM. In fact, I'll go get a shot and show in a separate thread. There is NOTHING like looking at a black and white transparency! (Except maybe a Velvia transparency, of course...or Provia...or etc etc).
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laurence wrote:


And...yet ANOTHER reason to shoot with film: DR5.com! where you send in your black and white print film and they make transparencies out of it. It scans like a DREAM. In fact, I'll go get a shot and show in a separate thread. There is NOTHING like looking at a black and white transparency! (Except maybe a Velvia transparency, of course...or Provia...or etc etc).


Bring it on, Larry, sounds damn interesting!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Digital just doesn't seem to have the same "soul" that film does. Then there is the anticipation of waiting to see what you have in your slides and/or prints, where digital has "instant gratification". Also, at-least for me, shooting film makes me "think" the photo alittle more carefully than with digital.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do people still shoot bow and arrows?
Why use a manual focus lens on a digital camera?
Why age whiskey for 12 years?


Aesthetics (if that word translates).
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