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Mos6502
Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 961 Location: Austin
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:25 pm Post subject: Who made this Porst Weitwinkel lens? |
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Mos6502 wrote:
I picked this up at a flea market today:
At first glance it looks rather like an ISCO lens, but the ISCO 3.5/35mm has a much smaller front element, so that can't be it.
My second thought was Enna. The preset aperture is worked like that on the later plastic Enna lenses, but the overall construction of the lens seems much different from any Enna lens I have seen.
Has anybody seen this lens before? |
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buerokratiehasser
Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 470
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:23 am Post subject: |
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buerokratiehasser wrote:
I think I have a 2.8/135 in this style (nasty plasticky, yellow, even the knob), unfortunately it's uhh somewhere. I think it wasn't Porst, Porst is just a relabel. May have been Enna or Enna relabeled. |
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gewa13
Joined: 16 Feb 2010 Posts: 34 Location: Saxonia, Germany
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:46 am Post subject: |
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gewa13 wrote:
I also think it is from Enna Munic. Here are my examples.
Revuenon 2,8/35, Ennalyt 3,5/28, Macro Revuenon 4/24, Porst Tele 2,8/135. _________________ Nikon D600, D300, Sony A3000, A6000, A7, Nikon F4, Canon 5D II, Canon D450, Pentax K30, Q, Q10, Olympus PEN PM2, OMD 5, Panasonic G3, Samsung NX1100, NX mini, Minolta 7D, Fujifilm S3pro, X-A1, Nikon FE2, Canon EOS3, Contaflex super, Minolta X700, Minolta Maxxum 9xi, Minolta Dynax7, Mamiya NC1000, Leica R4, Contax RTS, Olympus OM4 Titan, Praktica BX20, Ricoh XR-20sp, Pentax Me super, Kodak Retinareflex (Rodenstock Heligon C), Voigtl�nder Bessamatic, Kiev60, Mamiya 645 and lots of lenses
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Mos6502
Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 961 Location: Austin
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Mos6502 wrote:
Yes, I'm sure it is from Enna now. I found a near exact match on ebay (different color engraving and Exakta mount). Enna must've really let the quality go by the time they got around to making this lens though, it's almost sad. Not even close to their older lenses, even their earlier plastic lenses.
But if it still uses the same glass as the old Lithagon it may well produce some nice pictures regardless of the chintzy construction. I can't wait to get my film back and see how it does. |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Mos6502 wrote: |
Yes, I'm sure it is from Enna now. I found a near exact match on ebay (different color engraving and Exakta mount). Enna must've really let the quality go by the time they got around to making this lens though, it's almost sad. Not even close to their older lenses, even their earlier plastic lenses.
But if it still uses the same glass as the old Lithagon it may well produce some nice pictures regardless of the chintzy construction. I can't wait to get my film back and see how it does. |
+1 Jup, if mechanic is unbroken and glass without condensation (easy to clean) this lens produces very good results. I've snatched another one myself:
Here some old Pentax K10 made:
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/mfl_club_members/pancolart/enna_macro_35mm/ _________________ ---------------------------------
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simbon4o
Joined: 19 Dec 2011 Posts: 390 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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simbon4o wrote:
Very interesting lens! Low microcontrast and some kindá softness in the images but nice colors and bokeh!
Nice one!
PS the design of the lens looks old and I have never seen something like it! _________________ 10-300мм 4.0 - 1.2 - 4.5 NIKON&Sony bodies / Sony 10-18, Pentax 28 2.8 II, CZJ 35 2.4, Nikkor DX 35 1.8, Samyang 35 1.4, KMZ 50 1.7, FDn 50 1.2 L, Nikkor 55 2.8, Rokkor 58 1.2, Soligor 85 1.8 Preset, Samyang 85 1.4, Canon FDn 85 1.2 L, Tokina AT-X 90 2.5, Canon FDn 135mm 2.0, Nikkor 180 2.8 ED, Tair 300 4.5
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Fujinonuser
Joined: 06 Jan 2011 Posts: 128 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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Fujinonuser wrote:
Here's some information about the manufacturer Enna Werk in Munich, abstracted from the German Wikipedia article for all English speakers. Enna Werk was founded in Munich in 1920 by Alfred Neumann ("Enna" is made up of the initials of his name "N" and "A"). In 1958 they designed the 1.9 / 35mm Super Lithagon, said to be the first 35mm lens with that maximum aperture, and in 1961 the allegedly first tele zoom lens for SLRs, a 4 / 85-250 mm lens. Since 1958 they produced lenses for Edixa, Exakta and Praktica M42 cameras, sold under their own name or Photo Porst as "Ennalyt" or "Lithagon" or re-branded as "Revuenon" for Photo Quelle (Revue), i.e. German warehouse or retail chains. After 1972, when Japanese consumer lenses swamped the international markets, they shifted their production to slide frames, magazines and projector lenses. They no longer manufacture lenses, but are still in business in Passau.- I had a 3.5 / 28mm Ennalyt lens that produced sharp and contrasty shots on a Kodachrome 25 with vibrant colors as seen in the sample shots earlier in this thread. |
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Mos6502
Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 961 Location: Austin
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Mos6502 wrote:
I'm guess I'm going to need give mine a cleaning. Test shots had a lot of flare, low contrast, so-so sharpness.
I cleaned off haze on the front element when I got it but I didn't see any haze anywhere else, but maybe there is still some left. One thing was color was pretty nice (shot on slide film). |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Enna München my vote too, look forward your results! I didn't have good experience with Enna in past even 85mm wasn't same on same level with other German makers. _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Fujinonuser
Joined: 06 Jan 2011 Posts: 128 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Fujinonuser wrote:
@ Attila I mainly used the Enna 28mm in full sunshine with a lens shade and at smaller apertures above f=8. I also remember lower contrast and possibly vignetting at wider apertures. Nevertheless, considering their market price in those days, I have seen worse results from a 28mm lens. The Kodachromes taken with the Enna lens are still a pleasure to see -- after 40 years! |
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buerokratiehasser
Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 470
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:41 am Post subject: |
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buerokratiehasser wrote:
Found the specimen.. labeled as "REVUENON" (i.e. Quelle)
Looks like the one on the right of course, black, but the markings are yellow, white and red |. I am pretty sure about the style - the overall design, the protruding filter holder/hood with sheaty ring over it, the chintzy fake silver 1 mm ring, the knob on the aperture ring you must push to change it, and the matching focal length.
Unlabeled A/M ring - no m42 auto pin visible. Um, actually, this isn't A/M technically, it's a vanilla aperture ring that has a lock knob to limit the stop down
I remember that one well, because the description said the glasses would require cleaning. Well, they certainly did, being full of oil spray - from inside. Even with a simple and friendly lens construction as this (like, the front element simply comes off by screwing), you can certainly reassemble it wrong in too many ways (usually swapped lens elements or infinity clack /distance scale wrong) |
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Aanything
Joined: 27 Aug 2011 Posts: 2201 Location: Piacenza, Italy
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
I have one which looks exactly the same and is marked Enna Munchen Ennalyt 35/3.5.
Mine has very low contrast, and it's quite prone to flare. But it can be used in some circumstances. _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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