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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 7:56 pm    Post subject: Which 135mm lens to get? Reply with quote

Hello,

which 135mm vintage lens would you recommend if the price should be as low and the image quality as high as possible?


PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jupiter-11 135mm/4


PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you not so concerned about the lens speed, Konica 135/3.2 and Canon FDn 135/3.5 performs very good and they are cheap.


PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nikkor-Q 135/3.5
These are remarkably cheap and at least as good as anything out there. Really cheap for a Nikkor, often under $30
Super Takumar 135/3.5 - sharp, well made. Can easily be found under $40
Komura preset 135/3.5 - excellent sharpness, Golden color, great bokeh
They may be getting expensive though.
Sankor (Nissin) zebra style 135/3.5 or 135/2.8 - super bokeh. Sold under many brands so prices are all over the place. Will look awesome on your camera.
Tokina 135/3.5 preset - sold under many names. Very sharp, very cheap (this is the kind of lens you can get for $10) but bokeh may be a bit busy.

But the best lens is the one you can get for nothing ( thats how I roll) and no name 135 lenses can often be had for nothing or next to it. Nearly all of them are good or at least good enough - "there is no such thing as a bad 135".


PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vivitar Auto Close Focusing (1:2) 135mm f/2.8
I love mine. If you can find one, grab it!


PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get two: Samyang 135 f2 for sharpness Tair 11a 135 f2.8 for bokeh Smile


PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't really remember a 135mm lens I went "ewwwwww" from. "shrugs:


PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree on the Jupiter 11 or 11A or 37A. They are nice quality and can be found for quite cheap.
Too bad I am traveling to the US very soon, I have a couple I need to sell.
But it is true there are many cheap, good 135mm lenses.


PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minolta MD Celtic 135-f/3.5: Can be found quite cheap, identical to the Rokkor sibling, and remarkable resolution.

dIRE fRIAR by wNG 555, on Flickr

Pentax Super Takumar 135-f/3.5: Just a step below the Celtic in sharpness, higher build quality, smaller size, great color and sharpness.
IMO, outperforms the larger sibling, f/2.5.

DSC01990_Pentax Super Takumar 135mm f3.5 by wNG 555, on Flickr

Vivitar (Komine) 135-f/2.8: Get the all-metal focus ring version, as it has 8 bladed iris. Great color, contrast, sharpness and lovely bokeh. Built like a tank. Small for a f/2.8 as well.

Bokeh-licious Citrus 2 by wNG 555, on Flickr


The next two lenses are getting harder to find cheaply.

Konica Hexanon AR 135-f/3.2: The best 135 Konica released. Also the sharpest 135mm lens I've tried, and own.



Mamiya/Sekor SX 135-f/2.8: M42 mount which requires a narrow flange adapter. The best bokeh and excellent center sharpness wide open. No fringing or aberrations, no coma too. Luxurious warm color. Taken @ f/2.8..

DSC03824_Mamiya-Sekor SX 135mm f2.8 by wNG 555, on Flickr

These last two lenses got a "Wow" out of me. Smile


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are about 85USD and very good. Canon LTM f/3.5


DSC01562 by unoh7, on Flickr

I have a bunch of 135s. 10, anyway, maybe more. Only two I really like and they are not so cheap Sad

The OM 135/2.8 is small and pretty fast. No too dear.

I have the MD 135/3.5. Wanted to like it. It's really light. But my copy at least, though like new, is meh.

Here is the OM 135/2.8:

DSC05615 by unoh7, on Flickr


DSC05659 by unoh7, on Flickr

These shot on stock A7


PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TOKYO KOGAKU RE, AUTO-TOPCOR 3,5/135


PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends a bit on what you want to shoot i think.

For people photography i am still in love with the Meyer Orestor 2.8/135 (pre-set). For eye-ball-cutting sharpness the already mentioned Konica 3.2/135.

Meyer (on 5D):

My love by René Maly, on Flickr


PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much for all the recommodations Like 1 small

Do you know which mount the Konica Hexanon AR 135 lens has?


PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favourite 135 is a Topcor R 135/3.5 preset, sadly, not that common, the newer RE that Mir posted about is more common, it's inexpensive, sharp and good vibrant color, I liked my R 135 so much I had to get more, I now have the 90/3.5, & 200/4, all 3 have earned a permanent place in my collection, I have also branched out onto a nice collection of RE lenses, the 58/1.4 and 85/1.8 being the jewels in the RE collection.
I do like my silver nose Canon FD 135/3.5, it's a nice well made lens, just a touch of CA.
CZJ has a nice 135, as does a good number of manufacturers, I think you'll find that most 135's fall into the good to great category, and a few into stellar territory, which will leave a small fraction in the not very good to terrible category, you have to almost be unlucky to find a bad 135.


PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Konica lenses have their own mount, the Konica AR mount.


PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zeiss Jena 135mm f/3.5 Wink

http://manuellfokus.no/carl-zeiss-jena-135mm-f3-5/


PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Pentax SMC K 135/2.5 (or an earlier Takumar version of it) (but ~not~ the unrelated (and non-SMC) so-called "Takumar Bayonet" 135/2.5 consumer lens).

2. Vivitar 135/2.8 Close Focusing.

Both are great old 135's that have nicely stood the test of time...


PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically what you find first, I saw only once crappy 135 mm prime lens.
My remarkable cheap 135mm lens list is next:
All from well known brands Nikon, Minolta, Konica , Takumar etc
Carl Zeiss Jena, Pentacon, Jupiter etc
Not even Carl Zeiss or Leitz expensive in this focal length.


PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy any no-name multicoated 135/2.8 in good condition. Focal, Sears, Promaster, Albinar and so on. You'll be pleasantly surprised.


PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want inexpensive but good quality options, I like the Konica Hexanon 135/3.2 Mamiya Sekor SX 135/2.8, and the Super-Takumar 135/3.5. I got them for between $US 20-40 on ebay.

Then again, I have a Rexatar 135/3.5 with 15-16 aperture blades that I got for five bucks that is far better than the name would suggest.

I think it's hard to get a bad 135.


PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The two on the right are both 135s. (Vivitar Series 1, 135mm f2.3 VMC and Steinheil Munchen Q D 135mm f2.8 ). Steinheil is very tiny, just a little bigger than a computer mouse.




Samples Steinheil:






Samples Vivitar 135 f2.3




PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soligor 135mm f1.8




Samples:




PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

starlights wrote:
Soligor 135mm f1.8


Certainly a nice lens but you're in a wrong thread. The OP was asking for a CHEAP lens, i.e. as reasonable as possible.

The Minolta MD 135/3.5 (MD Celtic, MD II Rokkor or plain MD III without Rokkor, 5 lenses in 5 groups, weight below 300 g) should be available very cheap (below $ 30) and is certainly an excellent lens. The F2.8 version (MC-X, MD I and MD II, 4 lenses in 4 groups, front heavy, 535 g) would be even better but normally slightly more expensive.


PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tb_a wrote:
starlights wrote:
Soligor 135mm f1.8


Certainly a nice lens but you're in a wrong thread. The OP was asking for a CHEAP lens, i.e. as reasonable as possible.

The Minolta MD 135/3.5 (MD Celtic, MD II Rokkor or plain MD III without Rokkor, 5 lenses in 5 groups, weight below 300 g) should be available very cheap (below $ 30) and is certainly an excellent lens. The F2.8 version (MC-X, MD I and MD II, 4 lenses in 4 groups, front heavy, 535 g) would be even better but normally slightly more expensive.


Well, I responded because OP said "Price as low as possible and quality high" - I think all these lenses met both ends of the criteria.....

I had paid $35 for the Steinheil, Vivitar Series 1 came free with Konica body and another lens ($39 for all), and the soligor cost me a whopping $30 shipped (all within last 6 months)

You are right, the Minolta 135 4/4 is a stellar lens, however the weight of it has been popularly misreported everywhere. I have had 3 of those and all were uniformly around 516grams without end caps. I even opened one to clean it and confirmed the 4/4. Those can be had for around $35 with some luck and persistence.

One of my Minolta 135 4/4



PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

starlights wrote:
and the soligor cost me a whopping $30 shipped (all within last 6 months)


Well, that's certainly more than a bargain. Normally those super fast lenses go nowadays for several hundred bucks, irrespective of branding.

BTW, the net weight of my Minolta MD II 4/4 version of the 135/2.8 is 504 g without caps and around 525 g incl. both caps; at least on my scale. Wink
I took the weight information from http://minolta.eazypix.de/lenses/