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Semikolon
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 Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 7:56 pm Post subject: Which 135mm lens to get? |
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Semikolon wrote:
Hello,
which 135mm vintage lens would you recommend if the price should be as low and the image quality as high as possible? |
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BurstMox
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BurstMox wrote:
Jupiter-11 135mm/4
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Raxar
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Raxar wrote:
if you not so concerned about the lens speed, Konica 135/3.2 and Canon FDn 135/3.5 performs very good and they are cheap. |
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luisalegria
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luisalegria wrote:
Nikkor-Q 135/3.5
These are remarkably cheap and at least as good as anything out there. Really cheap for a Nikkor, often under $30
Super Takumar 135/3.5 - sharp, well made. Can easily be found under $40
Komura preset 135/3.5 - excellent sharpness, Golden color, great bokeh
They may be getting expensive though.
Sankor (Nissin) zebra style 135/3.5 or 135/2.8 - super bokeh. Sold under many brands so prices are all over the place. Will look awesome on your camera.
Tokina 135/3.5 preset - sold under many names. Very sharp, very cheap (this is the kind of lens you can get for $10) but bokeh may be a bit busy.
But the best lens is the one you can get for nothing ( thats how I roll) and no name 135 lenses can often be had for nothing or next to it. Nearly all of them are good or at least good enough - "there is no such thing as a bad 135".
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hasan
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hasan wrote:
Vivitar Auto Close Focusing (1:2) 135mm f/2.8
I love mine. If you can find one, grab it! |
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tomasg
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tomasg wrote:
Get two: Samyang 135 f2 for sharpness Tair 11a 135 f2.8 for bokeh  |
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tromboads wrote:
I can't really remember a 135mm lens I went "ewwwwww" from. "shrugs: |
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uddhava
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uddhava wrote:
I agree on the Jupiter 11 or 11A or 37A. They are nice quality and can be found for quite cheap.
Too bad I am traveling to the US very soon, I have a couple I need to sell.
But it is true there are many cheap, good 135mm lenses. |
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WNG555
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WNG555 wrote:
Minolta MD Celtic 135-f/3.5: Can be found quite cheap, identical to the Rokkor sibling, and remarkable resolution.
 dIRE fRIAR by wNG 555, on Flickr
Pentax Super Takumar 135-f/3.5: Just a step below the Celtic in sharpness, higher build quality, smaller size, great color and sharpness.
IMO, outperforms the larger sibling, f/2.5.
 DSC01990_Pentax Super Takumar 135mm f3.5 by wNG 555, on Flickr
Vivitar (Komine) 135-f/2.8: Get the all-metal focus ring version, as it has 8 bladed iris. Great color, contrast, sharpness and lovely bokeh. Built like a tank. Small for a f/2.8 as well.
 Bokeh-licious Citrus 2 by wNG 555, on Flickr
The next two lenses are getting harder to find cheaply.
Konica Hexanon AR 135-f/3.2: The best 135 Konica released. Also the sharpest 135mm lens I've tried, and own.
Mamiya/Sekor SX 135-f/2.8: M42 mount which requires a narrow flange adapter. The best bokeh and excellent center sharpness wide open. No fringing or aberrations, no coma too. Luxurious warm color. Taken @ f/2.8..
 DSC03824_Mamiya-Sekor SX 135mm f2.8 by wNG 555, on Flickr
These last two lenses got a "Wow" out of me.
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uhoh7
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uhoh7 wrote:
These are about 85USD and very good. Canon LTM f/3.5
DSC01562 by unoh7, on Flickr
I have a bunch of 135s. 10, anyway, maybe more. Only two I really like and they are not so cheap 
The OM 135/2.8 is small and pretty fast. No too dear.
I have the MD 135/3.5. Wanted to like it. It's really light. But my copy at least, though like new, is meh.
Here is the OM 135/2.8:
DSC05615 by unoh7, on Flickr
DSC05659 by unoh7, on Flickr
These shot on stock A7
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TOKYO KOGAKU RE, AUTO-TOPCOR 3,5/135
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TrueLoveOne
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
Depends a bit on what you want to shoot i think.
For people photography i am still in love with the Meyer Orestor 2.8/135 (pre-set). For eye-ball-cutting sharpness the already mentioned Konica 3.2/135.
Meyer (on 5D):
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Semikolon
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Semikolon wrote:
Thank you very much for all the recommodations 
Do you know which mount the Konica Hexanon AR 135 lens has? |
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Lightshow
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Lightshow wrote:
My favourite 135 is a Topcor R 135/3.5 preset, sadly, not that common, the newer RE that Mir posted about is more common, it's inexpensive, sharp and good vibrant color, I liked my R 135 so much I had to get more, I now have the 90/3.5, & 200/4, all 3 have earned a permanent place in my collection, I have also branched out onto a nice collection of RE lenses, the 58/1.4 and 85/1.8 being the jewels in the RE collection.
I do like my silver nose Canon FD 135/3.5, it's a nice well made lens, just a touch of CA.
CZJ has a nice 135, as does a good number of manufacturers, I think you'll find that most 135's fall into the good to great category, and a few into stellar territory, which will leave a small fraction in the not very good to terrible category, you have to almost be unlucky to find a bad 135.
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
Konica lenses have their own mount, the Konica AR mount.
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Nordentro wrote:
Zeiss Jena 135mm f/3.5 
http://manuellfokus.no/carl-zeiss-jena-135mm-f3-5/
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fwcetus
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fwcetus wrote:
1. Pentax SMC K 135/2.5 (or an earlier Takumar version of it) (but ~not~ the unrelated (and non-SMC) so-called "Takumar Bayonet" 135/2.5 consumer lens).
2. Vivitar 135/2.8 Close Focusing.
Both are great old 135's that have nicely stood the test of time...
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Attila wrote:
Basically what you find first, I saw only once crappy 135 mm prime lens.
My remarkable cheap 135mm lens list is next:
All from well known brands Nikon, Minolta, Konica , Takumar etc
Carl Zeiss Jena, Pentacon, Jupiter etc
Not even Carl Zeiss or Leitz expensive in this focal length.
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Gardener wrote:
Buy any no-name multicoated 135/2.8 in good condition. Focal, Sears, Promaster, Albinar and so on. You'll be pleasantly surprised. |
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JJB
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JJB wrote:
If you want inexpensive but good quality options, I like the Konica Hexanon 135/3.2 Mamiya Sekor SX 135/2.8, and the Super-Takumar 135/3.5. I got them for between $US 20-40 on ebay.
Then again, I have a Rexatar 135/3.5 with 15-16 aperture blades that I got for five bucks that is far better than the name would suggest.
I think it's hard to get a bad 135. |
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starlights wrote:
The two on the right are both 135s. (Vivitar Series 1, 135mm f2.3 VMC and Steinheil Munchen Q D 135mm f2.8 ). Steinheil is very tiny, just a little bigger than a computer mouse.
Samples Steinheil:
Samples Vivitar 135 f2.3
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starlights wrote:
Soligor 135mm f1.8
Samples:
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tb_a wrote:
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| Soligor 135mm f1.8 |
Certainly a nice lens but you're in a wrong thread. The OP was asking for a CHEAP lens, i.e. as reasonable as possible.
The Minolta MD 135/3.5 (MD Celtic, MD II Rokkor or plain MD III without Rokkor, 5 lenses in 5 groups, weight below 300 g) should be available very cheap (below $ 30) and is certainly an excellent lens. The F2.8 version (MC-X, MD I and MD II, 4 lenses in 4 groups, front heavy, 535 g) would be even better but normally slightly more expensive.
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starlights
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starlights wrote:
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| Soligor 135mm f1.8 |
Certainly a nice lens but you're in a wrong thread. The OP was asking for a CHEAP lens, i.e. as reasonable as possible.
The Minolta MD 135/3.5 (MD Celtic, MD II Rokkor or plain MD III without Rokkor, 5 lenses in 5 groups, weight below 300 g) should be available very cheap (below $ 30) and is certainly an excellent lens. The F2.8 version (MC-X, MD I and MD II, 4 lenses in 4 groups, front heavy, 535 g) would be even better but normally slightly more expensive. |
Well, I responded because OP said "Price as low as possible and quality high" - I think all these lenses met both ends of the criteria.....
I had paid $35 for the Steinheil, Vivitar Series 1 came free with Konica body and another lens ($39 for all), and the soligor cost me a whopping $30 shipped (all within last 6 months)
You are right, the Minolta 135 4/4 is a stellar lens, however the weight of it has been popularly misreported everywhere. I have had 3 of those and all were uniformly around 516grams without end caps. I even opened one to clean it and confirmed the 4/4. Those can be had for around $35 with some luck and persistence.
One of my Minolta 135 4/4
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tb_a
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tb_a wrote:
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| and the soligor cost me a whopping $30 shipped (all within last 6 months) |
Well, that's certainly more than a bargain. Normally those super fast lenses go nowadays for several hundred bucks, irrespective of branding.
BTW, the net weight of my Minolta MD II 4/4 version of the 135/2.8 is 504 g without caps and around 525 g incl. both caps; at least on my scale.
I took the weight information from http://minolta.eazypix.de/lenses/
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