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Samyang 20mm T1.9.
I guess it was cheap (220€ new in box from a 100% ebay seller) because of the unfortunate combination of A-mount and cinema version of the lens. |
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Tamron adaptall-2 28mm 1:2.5 02B incoming from Rocky Camera's on Bonanza these days. It's always a surprise wether he sends the right lens or not. From images I've seen it is probably an underrated lens.
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Tokina 28-70 / 2.8-4.3 for 8,91 euros! Kamerastore Black Friday 70% off lens that supposed to have "haze" but I didn't see any. 
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Tokina 28-70 / 2.8-4.3 for 8,91 euros! Kamerastore Black Friday 70% off lens that supposed to have "haze" but I didn't see any.
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Have you shone a bright led through it yet?
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kansalliskala wrote:
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Have you shone a bright led through it yet? |
some dust but normal zoom amount
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lumens pixel
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Tamron adaptall-2 28mm 1:2.5 02B incoming from Rocky Camera's on Bonanza these days. It's always a surprise wether he sends the right lens or not. From images I've seen it is probably an underrated lens.
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Please comment on this one when you have an opportunity to do so. It is cheap and has widespread bad reputation compared to the standard of Tamron lenses and in particular the 24mm.
But I do not understand how Tamron could have failed to design a proper 28 when they succeeded with so much more difficult lenses. So your opinion will be valued.
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Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
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D1N0
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Please comment on this one when you have an opportunity to do so. It is cheap and has widespread bad reputation compared to the standard of Tamron lenses and in particular the 24mm.
But I do not understand how Tamron could have failed to design a proper 28 when they succeeded with so much more difficult lenses. So your opinion will be valued. |
I am hoping it will have smooth sailing in customs. It looks a bit like the new mirrorless primes by tamron with it's small front element.
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lumens pixel
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Yes and design close to the very famous Canon EF M 22 f2,0 which is excellent.
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Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
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caspert79
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caspert79 wrote:
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Please comment on this one when you have an opportunity to do so. It is cheap and has widespread bad reputation compared to the standard of Tamron lenses and in particular the 24mm.
But I do not understand how Tamron could have failed to design a proper 28 when they succeeded with so much more difficult lenses. So your opinion will be valued. |
I am hoping it will have smooth sailing in customs. It looks a bit like the new mirrorless primes by tamron with it's small front element.
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I have to say those new Tamron budget wide angles are pretty cool. And they are very decent performers apparently (if you can live with strong barrel distortion of the 20mm). |
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lumens pixel
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If you enjoy AF these might be the best quality price ratio these days.
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Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
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caspert79
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| If you enjoy AF these might be the best quality price ratio these days. |
That’s the thing, I don’t like AF 😊. |
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D1N0
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And unlikely too still function 40 years from now 
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papasito
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| If you enjoy AF these might be the best quality price ratio these days. |
That’s the thing, I don’t like AF 😊. |
Precise focus = manual focus. |
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visualopsins
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visualopsins wrote:
| papasito wrote: |
| caspert79 wrote: |
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| If you enjoy AF these might be the best quality price ratio these days. |
That’s the thing, I don’t like AF 😊. |
Precise focus = manual focus. |
That depends on auto-focus point(s) used, yes?
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ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars
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ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars wrote:
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| I'm sure it's a good lens. Show us some results later! |
With delight. A merry time before Christmas
Canon FD 85mm 1.8 @f2.8
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caspert79
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caspert79 wrote:
| ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars wrote: |
| caspert79 wrote: |
| I'm sure it's a good lens. Show us some results later! |
With delight. A merry time before Christmas
Canon FD 85mm 1.8 @f2.8
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papasito
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papasito wrote:
| visualopsins wrote: |
| papasito wrote: |
| caspert79 wrote: |
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| If you enjoy AF these might be the best quality price ratio these days. |
That’s the thing, I don’t like AF 😊. |
Precise focus = manual focus. |
That depends on auto-focus point(s) used, yes? |
In my experience with Sony 7RIII, 7RIV and A1, when you use f/2 or wide and medium distance with manual focus you will have a bit sharper image, not matter which point of focus you use. |
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visualopsins wrote:
| papasito wrote: |
| visualopsins wrote: |
| papasito wrote: |
| caspert79 wrote: |
| lumens pixel wrote: |
| If you enjoy AF these might be the best quality price ratio these days. |
That’s the thing, I don’t like AF 😊. |
Precise focus = manual focus. |
That depends on auto-focus point(s) used, yes? |
In my experience with Sony 7RIII, 7RIV and A1, when you use f/2 or wide and medium distance with manual focus you will have a bit sharper image, not matter which point of focus you use. |
Good to know! Thank you!
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I have to say those new Tamron budget wide angles are pretty cool. And they are very decent performers apparently (if you can live with strong barrel distortion of the 20mm). |
IMO those Tamron primes are too oversized for their characteristics. |
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caspert79
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caspert79 wrote:
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I have to say those new Tamron budget wide angles are pretty cool. And they are very decent performers apparently (if you can live with strong barrel distortion of the 20mm). |
IMO those Tamron primes are too oversized for their characteristics. |
Many AF lenses are rediculous in size. |
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ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars wrote:
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And here is what it does:
Konica Hexanon 21mm/4@f11 on Sony A7ii
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Konica Hexanon 21mm/4@f16 on Sony A7ii
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It´s difficult to focus on the Sony. Dug out my old Autoreflex TC, it´s difficult to focus on that one, too. That lens is not easy-going, it´s frustrating any ambition just to don it on and shoot good images. I´m very impressed by the deep field it creates though. There´s a big difference between 24mm and 21.
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caspert79
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It´s difficult to focus on the Sony. Dug out my old Autoreflex TC, it´s difficult to focus on that one, too. That lens is not easy-going, it´s frustrating any ambition just to don it on and shoot good images. I´m very impressed by the deep field it creates though. There´s a big difference between 24mm and 21. |
Why is it difficult to focus? Because of its small aperture? |
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Through to viewfinder everything looks in focus with such a lens. I rely in the distance scale or for critical focus wide open I zoom in to 100% or more. With low light it is more difficult because of al the noise. Lenses that are soft wide open can also be hard to focus, even zoomed in.
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