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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
leto wrote:
xenar 200mm f4.8 does anyone have a diagram?

Welcome leto


PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hello, i love old lenses. I was looking for any information about this xenar. I haven't received it yet.
What i know is, it weight about half kilogram and has 7/5 design. But it's not confirmed.


PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
JJB wrote:
A Vivitar Series I 28-90mm 2.8/3.5 zoom to replace my copy that had been knocked over by somebody. The concrete floor was not kind. The replacement looks brand new in original box, including all packaging and manual.

A Topcor RE 35mm 2.8 is in transit and I am eagerly awaiting its arrival.


My eBay fishing line finally caught a reasonably priced one in PK mount. 35 pounds. €70 after all the shipping hassle made a bit easier with the international shipping program.


PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
A Canon FDn 200mm f/4 Macro. Something which would have been rather a lot more money when I was still using a T90 & as my only SLR camera.


PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
bp_reid wrote:
A Canon FDn 200mm f/4 Macro. Something which would have been rather a lot more money when I was still using a T90 & as my only SLR camera.

It is a good lens. My copy had the bearings issue which makes focusing precisely a bit difficult. Good sharpness but CA is pretty visible on a digital camera.


PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
calvin83 wrote:
bp_reid wrote:
A Canon FDn 200mm f/4 Macro. Something which would have been rather a lot more money when I was still using a T90 & as my only SLR camera.

It is a good lens. My copy had the bearings issue which makes focusing precisely a bit difficult. Good sharpness but CA is pretty visible on a digital camera.


I have used four different vintage 4/200mm Macro lenses on 24MP FF cameras:

Canon nFD 4/200mm Macro (1:1)
Minolta AF 4/200mm APO Macro (1:1)
Nikkor AiS 4/200mm Micro (1:2)
Pentax A 4/200mm Macro ED (1:1)

The Canon certainly is the weakest of these lenses, having lots of CAs. The Nikkor is a bit better - quite sharp already at f4. The two other lenses (Minolta AF and Pentax) are another level - reflected also by their price which is usually above USD / EUR / CHF 1000.--. Even though I would love to use a 200mm Macro especially for flowers, neither the Canon nor the Nikkor can compete with my other Macro lenses such as the Minolta AF 2.8/100mm Macro (which is around CHF 100.-- these days), the AF Nikkor 2.8/105mm or the Mamiya Sekor A 4/120mm.

S


PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
stevemark wrote:
calvin83 wrote:
bp_reid wrote:
A Canon FDn 200mm f/4 Macro. Something which would have been rather a lot more money when I was still using a T90 & as my only SLR camera.

It is a good lens. My copy had the bearings issue which makes focusing precisely a bit difficult. Good sharpness but CA is pretty visible on a digital camera.


I have used four different vintage 4/200mm Macro lenses on 24MP FF cameras:

Canon nFD 4/200mm Macro (1:1)
Minolta AF 4/200mm APO Macro (1:1)
Nikkor AiS 4/200mm Micro (1:2)
Pentax A 4/200mm Macro ED (1:1)

The Canon certainly is the weakest of these lenses, having lots of CAs. The Nikkor is a bit better - quite sharp already at f4. The two other lenses (Minolta AF and Pentax) are another level - reflected also by their price which is usually above USD / EUR / CHF 1000.--. Even though I would love to use a 200mm Macro especially for flowers, neither the Canon nor the Nikkor can compete with my other Macro lenses such as the Minolta AF 2.8/100mm Macro (which is around CHF 100.-- these days), the AF Nikkor 2.8/105mm or the Mamiya Sekor A 4/120mm.

S

Being the first 200 macro goes to 1:1 without using special glass, it is expected it will be less good to other late comers. I would like to have a Pentax marco but the price is high on a used one. I got mine for less than US$100 since it has the bearings issue. Wink

http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-nfd-200mm-f4-macro-on-a7r-ii-t78930.html


PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Minolta MD Rokkor-X 85mm f/1.7. Excellent condition overall. Unfortunately there is oil on the blades which prevents them to open and close. I am not sure if I am skillful enough to open the lens and clean the oil, after checking some tutorials texts/photos and videos.

Minolta MD Rokkor-X 50mm f/1.2. This one is in excellent condition.

Now with Nikon 55mm f/1.2 and Canon FL 55mm f/1.2, I am considering buying a Techart Pro Le-EA7 adapter.


PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lots of happy (and semi-broke) lens buyers in here Smile



I found this not-often-seen Nitto Kogaku Kominar 85mm F/1.8 lens from a Japanese vendor (Vendors pic). It will be interesting to see if it is the same lens as the Vivitar Preset 85/1.8 lens I also have. The Vivitar has 15 aperture blades to the Kominars' 12, but that isn't necessarily the final word on the subject.


PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very nice Alun.
It must be portrait lens time.
Mine is a bit slower than yours - a Meyer Telefogar 3.5/90
On its way and could take a while
Tom


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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oldhand wrote:

Meyer Telefogar 3.5/90


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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Alun Thomas wrote:
Lots of happy (and semi-broke) lens buyers in here Smile



I found this not-often-seen Nitto Kogaku Kominar 85mm F/1.8 lens from a Japanese vendor (Vendors pic). It will be interesting to see if it is the same lens as the Vivitar Preset 85/1.8 lens I also have. The Vivitar has 15 aperture blades to the Kominars' 12, but that isn't necessarily the final word on the subject.

Never see one. The vivitar and soligor is much more common. Congrats


PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
In need of some attention. Hazy inside and a couldn't wipe of the damage on the front element. Maybe it is on the rear of the element. Cost me only 100 yen (before shipping 'n stuff :p) XR Rikenon 70-150mm 1:4
XR Rikenon zoom 70-150mm 1:4 macro by The lens profile, on Flickr

XR Rikenon zoom 70-150mm 1:4 macro by The lens profile, on Flickr


PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
calvin83 wrote:

Being the first 200 macro goes to 1:1 without using special glass, it is expected it will be less good to other late comers.

Sure! It is a magificent piece of lens design history, and - by the way - it has at least two (may be even three) LD glass elements (not ULD, though!).

calvin83 wrote:

I would like to have a Pentax marco but the price is high on a used one. I got mine for less than US$100 since it has the bearings issue. Wink


My only two 200mm macro (micro) lenses are the Canon FD and the Nikkor AiS. I had the opportunity to briefly test both the Pentax as well as the Minolta AF, but I couldn't justify paying their price "just for fun". Due to their less-than-stellar image quality on high res FF sensors, both the Canon FD as well as the Nikkor sell at pretty low prices; I got them both for about CHF 100.-- as well. Not a bad deal; however the image quality of e. g. a Minolta AF 2.8/100mm is quite a bit better. Not to mention that is has no mechanical issues (no problem with bearings) ...

S


PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
vivaldibow wrote:
Minolta MD Rokkor-X 85mm f/1.7. Excellent condition overall. Unfortunately there is oil on the blades which prevents them to open and close. I am not sure if I am skillful enough to open the lens and clean the oil, after checking some tutorials texts/photos and videos.


If you have the necessary equipment (in this case mainly the correct screwdrivers!) it's no problem at all. All you need is patience and enough time. And a good source of light, maybe. Proceed slowly, and make sure you have understood the following step before actually proceeding ... !

http://forum.mflenses.com/minolta-mc-x-12-58mm-and-17-85mm-repair-t82291.html

S


PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
stevemark wrote:
vivaldibow wrote:
Minolta MD Rokkor-X 85mm f/1.7. Excellent condition overall. Unfortunately there is oil on the blades which prevents them to open and close. I am not sure if I am skillful enough to open the lens and clean the oil, after checking some tutorials texts/photos and videos.


If you have the necessary equipment (in this case mainly the correct screwdrivers!) it's no problem at all. All you need is patience and enough time. And a good source of light, maybe. Proceed slowly, and make sure you have understood the following step before actually proceeding ... !

http://forum.mflenses.com/minolta-mc-x-12-58mm-and-17-85mm-repair-t82291.html

S


Thanks very much Steve, very thorough illustration. I wish you could add the assembly instructions as well, though they are just reverse process. I do have the JIS screw driver set but never used.


PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Alun Thomas wrote:
Lots of happy (and semi-broke) lens buyers in here Smile

I found this not-often-seen Nitto Kogaku Kominar 85mm F/1.8 lens from a Japanese vendor (Vendors pic). It will be interesting to see if it is the same lens as the Vivitar Preset 85/1.8 lens I also have. The Vivitar has 15 aperture blades to the Kominars' 12, but that isn't necessarily the final word on the subject.


Wow, nice find. I tracked Kominar for a while but quit afterwards, as only items were Kominar x 135 and 28 for Fuji cameras. This one does look similar to the Vivitar 85mm f/1.8. Interestingly, this lens was sold in April and came out again in May for sale. $57 quoted shipping to US (too much for me).


PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oldhand wrote:
Very nice Alun.
It must be portrait lens time.
Mine is a bit slower than yours - a Meyer Telefogar 3.5/90
On its way and could take a while
Tom


Interesting. I never know Meyer had a 90mm. Will love to see your photos taken by this lens.


PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
D1N0 wrote:
In need of some attention. Hazy inside and a couldn't wipe of the damage on the front element. Maybe it is on the rear of the element. Cost me only 100 yen (before shipping 'n stuff :p) XR Rikenon 70-150mm 1:4


Nice. JPY100 is just $1. Can't believe it. Like 1


PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
vivaldibow wrote:

Thanks very much Steve, very thorough illustration. I wish you could add the assembly instructions as well, though they are just reverse process. I do have the JIS screw driver set but never used.


I have published the re-assembling of the aperture mechanism (#6 in the above link). Everything else is quite starightforward, especially if you make photos of your own disassembling process. Don't forget to line up all parts strictly in the sequence of disassembling - that makes re-assembling much easier Wink

S


PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
vivaldibow wrote:
D1N0 wrote:
In need of some attention. Hazy inside and a couldn't wipe of the damage on the front element. Maybe it is on the rear of the element. Cost me only 100 yen (before shipping 'n stuff :p) XR Rikenon 70-150mm 1:4


Nice. JPY100 is just $1. Can't believe it. Like 1


It is actually pretty nice but contrast takes a big hit from the haze. Maybe good for video. You won't need a flat grading profile.

Ducky by The lens profile, on Flickr


PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Nothing special in comparison with some of the beauties posted here, but nevertheless I'm quite happy with my 'new' Canon nFD 50mm. Especially after the aperture assembly has been realigned correctly


PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
stevemark wrote:
calvin83 wrote:

Being the first 200 macro goes to 1:1 without using special glass, it is expected it will be less good to other late comers.

Sure! It is a magificent piece of lens design history, and - by the way - it has at least two (may be even three) LD glass elements (not ULD, though!).

calvin83 wrote:

I would like to have a Pentax marco but the price is high on a used one. I got mine for less than US$100 since it has the bearings issue. Wink


My only two 200mm macro (micro) lenses are the Canon FD and the Nikkor AiS. I had the opportunity to briefly test both the Pentax as well as the Minolta AF, but I couldn't justify paying their price "just for fun". Due to their less-than-stellar image quality on high res FF sensors, both the Canon FD as well as the Nikkor sell at pretty low prices; I got them both for about CHF 100.-- as well. Not a bad deal; however the image quality of e. g. a Minolta AF 2.8/100mm is quite a bit better. Not to mention that is has no mechanical issues (no problem with bearings) ...

S

The optical diagram for the 200 marco don't show any UD element. I think canon is more conservative at that time for using the UD name.

The canon 200 macro is a sharp lens to my standard. CA could be a problem in some situations. Take notes I don't have much experience on modern 200mm. My only other 200mm is the MD 200/2.8 which also has quiet visible CA. The Sony FE 70-200 I tried is a better lens at long distance but it can't focus close!


PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
calvin83 wrote:
stevemark wrote:
calvin83 wrote:

Being the first 200 macro goes to 1:1 without using special glass, it is expected it will be less good to other late comers.

Sure! It is a magificent piece of lens design history, and - by the way - it has at least two (may be even three) LD glass elements (not ULD, though!).


The optical diagram for the 200 marco don't show any UD element. I think canon is more conservative at that time for using the UD name.


As I said, the Canon nFD 4/200mm Macro (and the non-Macro nFD 4/200mm IF as well!) have two large lense made from low dispersive LD glass (v=70, nD=1.49). They both do NOT have "ultra low dispersive" ULD/ED glass (v=80).

S


PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2021 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
RvL wrote:
I'm quite happy with my 'new' Canon nFD 50mm.


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