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sergtum
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:09 am Post subject: |
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Phalbert
Joined: 17 May 2009 Posts: 359 Location: Namibia
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Phalbert wrote:
[quote="Lucse"]The last two weeks I was on a bit of a roll. My luck in finding lenses just not seemed to end.
I have been collecting lenses for 15 years, but this was definitely the luckiest streak I ever had.
I was able to acquire the following lenses (amongst some ordinary ones :
- Ina 135mm f/1.5 (mint condition, only the hood is missing).
- Rodenstock Eurygon 30mm f/2.8 (mint condition, but slightly stiff focus-ring).
- Minolta RF 250mm f/5.6 mirror (lens is in mint condition but fungus infested).
- Carl Zeiss Biotar red T 12 blades (glass is slightly scratched though).
- MOG Trioplan 100mm f/2.8 M42, red V 'triangle 1', in mint condition.
- MOG Primotar 35mm f/3.5 (mint condition).
- Azovsky MC 3M-7K 300mm f/5.6 mirror lens (mint condition, filters included but some faint scratches on the front glass).
- Leicaflex camera plus Summicron 50mm f/2 and Summicron 90mm f/2 (I was so unfortunately to break of the red-plastic lens-release-switch at the sellers house ).
- Yashica DS-M 50mm f/1.7
- Helios 44 zebra by BeLOMO (mint condition).
This is where the saying "To good to be true" really fits ! Please remember me, your fellow forum member, when you look at selling the 135 / 1,5 ! I mean it. Thanks ! _________________ 🙋 My wishlist: Titan or Idaho 135/1,8 Nikon Df Nikkor 105/1,8 35/1,4 85/1,4
My dream lenses: Zuiko 180/2 Prototype Zuiko 85/1,4
Zeiss CY: 55/1,2 85/1,2
Astro Berlin 250/2 Canon EF 50/1,0 85/1,2
Nikkor 105/1,4 28/1,4
My stolen stuff: Zuiko 24/2 #106874; Zuiko 35-80/2,8 #102180; Zuiko 35/2 #119168; Zuiko 90/2 macro #102858; Zuiko x1,4 converter #102019; Tamron 17/3,5 #400567; Tamron 400/4 #80407; Soligor 135/2 #17506600 Sigma 28/1,8 #1001124 |
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Lucse
Joined: 22 Jul 2015 Posts: 166 Location: EU
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:03 am Post subject: |
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Lucse wrote:
wolfhansen wrote: |
i live in germany - the adapter came without any taxes or duty-fees |
Maybe the US-Germany relationship is better then the US-Belgium one .
Every single time I had something shipped from the US in the past I had to pay for importing it.
And this really adds up. |
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Lucse
Joined: 22 Jul 2015 Posts: 166 Location: EU
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:14 am Post subject: |
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Lucse wrote:
Phalbert wrote: |
This is where the saying "To good to be true" really fits ! Please remember me, your fellow forum member, when you look at selling the 135 / 1,5 ! I mean it. Thanks ! |
. I am not thinking about selling it in the near future. It such a rare, special lens that I probably never will be able to let it go.
Although it's so heavy that it's not really usable without a tripod. I took three test-shots with and I had to put the camera down to give my arm some relief.
It has the weight of a baby (... but a baby doesn't damage the floor if you drop it ). |
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kiddo
Joined: 29 Jun 2018 Posts: 1121
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:30 am Post subject: |
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kiddo wrote:
Lucse wrote: |
wolfhansen wrote: |
i live in germany - the adapter came without any taxes or duty-fees |
Maybe the US-Germany relationship is better then the US-Belgium one .
Every single time I had something shipped from the US in the past I had to pay for importing it.
And this really adds up. |
Talking about import from usa to Spain ,gifts sent on 14th December(real gifts from friend ,for Christmas) , still on customs in spain ,after paying 90€ , rules here are ,every gift more than 45$ in value (including shipping ,I know this is crazy) ,needs to pass through customs (all items are personal gifts ,nothing specific commercial etc). It is so much easy to buy things from China (did I say BUY, not even gifts) ,sellers include free shipping (Wich I understood long time ago, it's subsidies by the mutual governments ,otherwise they wouldn't be able to shipp 2$ ring adapters for free with tracking number included for free ). So buying anything from states ,for europeans ,very bad deal
Whatever adapter I would ship inside the country , it would cost me 9€ (envelope type) ,buy buying from china it's much cheaper ,even though it takes longer to receive . |
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Alun Thomas
Joined: 20 Aug 2018 Posts: 631 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:17 am Post subject: |
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Alun Thomas wrote:
benadamx wrote: |
Zamo wrote: |
Phalbert wrote: |
52 f1,4 you sure ? You mean 57 ? |
There is an F-mount 52mm 1.4. I have two of them... but no adapter (yet, I have to build one, or something. In the to do list). |
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the lens is in lovely condition and i'm sure takes lovely photos, but i can't bring myself to spend $67 USD on the adapter at this point, may reconsider if i end up with more f-mount lenses |
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I built mine using the mount removed from the camera, there is a tutorial somewhere out there on the internet which explains fully. My version uses 55mm filters with the glass removed, as spacers. The F mount ring is held in the outer filter with the retaining ring originally used to hold the glass in. At the other end, there is a 55-42mm adapter, and a thin style 42-Sony E adapter to fit my camera. It should be possible also, to remove the mount from your camera non-destructively, if you have ambitions of using the Konica Camera at another point in time. |
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Lucse
Joined: 22 Jul 2015 Posts: 166 Location: EU
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Lucse wrote:
Alun Thomas wrote: |
I built mine using the mount removed from the camera, there is a tutorial somewhere out there on the internet which explains fully. My version uses 55mm filters with the glass removed, as spacers. The F mount ring is held in the outer filter with the retaining ring originally used to hold the glass in. At the other end, there is a 55-42mm adapter, and a thin style 42-Sony E adapter to fit my camera. It should be possible also, to remove the mount from your camera non-destructively, if you have ambitions of using the Konica Camera at another point in time. |
Thanks for sharing this great idea.
This seems to be the tutorial you are talking about (I think):
http://forum.mflenses.com/diy-konica-f-mount-adapter-t80325.html |
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Phalbert
Joined: 17 May 2009 Posts: 359 Location: Namibia
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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Phalbert wrote:
. I am not thinking about selling it in the near future. It such a rare, special lens that I probably never will be able to let it go.
Although it's so heavy that it's not really usable without a tripod. I took three test-shots with and I had to put the camera down to give my arm some relief.
It has the weight of a baby (... but a baby doesn't damage the floor if you drop it ).[/quote]
2 things. Should you want to damage your floor, please try not to drop either the baby nor the lens. There are more appropriate ways to do it...
And then, you might want to share your findings with the INA in a new thread, maybe ? _________________ 🙋 My wishlist: Titan or Idaho 135/1,8 Nikon Df Nikkor 105/1,8 35/1,4 85/1,4
My dream lenses: Zuiko 180/2 Prototype Zuiko 85/1,4
Zeiss CY: 55/1,2 85/1,2
Astro Berlin 250/2 Canon EF 50/1,0 85/1,2
Nikkor 105/1,4 28/1,4
My stolen stuff: Zuiko 24/2 #106874; Zuiko 35-80/2,8 #102180; Zuiko 35/2 #119168; Zuiko 90/2 macro #102858; Zuiko x1,4 converter #102019; Tamron 17/3,5 #400567; Tamron 400/4 #80407; Soligor 135/2 #17506600 Sigma 28/1,8 #1001124 |
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Lucse
Joined: 22 Jul 2015 Posts: 166 Location: EU
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Lucse wrote:
Phalbert wrote: |
And then, you might want to share your findings with the INA in a new thread, maybe ? |
Yeah I know, I should do that.
Maybe I should grab the cow by the horns and do this right now.
I know myself, if I postpone this it will probably never happen again. |
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Lucse
Joined: 22 Jul 2015 Posts: 166 Location: EU
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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Lucse wrote:
A few pictures if that INA 135mm f/1.5. I will put some more in a separate thread, together with some test-shots.
It has some faint haze inside. The front lens-block unscrews very easily but I have not yet cleaned the glass inside.
The lens came without it's hood but I am using one of a CZJ Sonnar 180mm f/2.8.
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Alun Thomas
Joined: 20 Aug 2018 Posts: 631 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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Alun Thomas wrote:
Lucse wrote: |
A few pictures if that INA 135mm f/1.5. I will put some more in a separate thread, together with some test-shots.
It has some faint haze inside. The front lens-block unscrews very easily but I have not yet cleaned the glass inside.
The lens came without it's hood but I am using one of a CZJ Sonnar 180mm f/2.8. |
Very interesting, your copy came with different colouring for the aperture rings, focus and depth-of-focus scales, otherwise it is identical to the Vivitar badged examples. Maybe it was from a different batch. I too own a copy that is INA badged, the serial# is 1967130, but it has the same coloured markings as the Vivitar examples, and the serial number seems to put it in the same batch. I bought mine from a vendor in Germany, and it did come with its' hood. It is in good condition optically, but not quite as nice as your copy externally. What is the serial# of your copy? |
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Lucse
Joined: 22 Jul 2015 Posts: 166 Location: EU
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Lucse wrote:
Our lenses are only a few numbers away . Which is no surprise of course as probably less then 200 of these lenses are produced.
They have been sold under a few names (Vivitar, INA, Berolina, Carl Meyer) but all the serial numbers of them follow the same sequence.
Could you share a picture of your lens? I am interested to see it. |
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Alun Thomas
Joined: 20 Aug 2018 Posts: 631 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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Alun Thomas wrote:
Lucse wrote: |
Could you share a picture of your lens? I am interested to see it. |
Unfortunately I am away from home for work until March 11th, I'll try to remember to post some up when I return.
One question which does interest me is whether the Soligor 135/1.5 is the same, or a different design optically. The soligor lens certainly is different externally, following the standard styling of Soligor lenses in that period, many of which I am sure were from varying manufacturers. |
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Lucse
Joined: 22 Jul 2015 Posts: 166 Location: EU
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Lucse wrote:
[quote="Alun Thomas"]
Lucse wrote: |
One question which does interest me is whether the Soligor 135/1.5 is the same, or a different design optically. The soligor lens certainly is different externally, following the standard styling of Soligor lenses in that period, many of which I am sure were from varying manufacturers. |
The Soligor 135mm f/1.5 is a totally different lens according to me.
- It weighs (a lot) more. 2,7kg vs about 2kg (or 2,2kg with hood) for the Vivitar Ina.
- It only has 12 blades where the Vivitar/INA has 16.
- It has a filterthread of 98mm where the Vivitar/INA 'only' has a thread of 95mm.
- Minimum focus for the Soligor is 1,2 meters vs 1,6 for the Vivitar/INA
- The production of the Soligor started 10 years after the first production-year of the Vivitar (1977 vs 1967).
And above all: The Vivitar/INA has 7 elements in 6 groups while the Soligor only has 6 elements in 4 groups. |
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KEO
Joined: 27 Sep 2018 Posts: 761 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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KEO wrote:
It's hard to believe how inexpensive these Kiev RF lenses are.
According to http://www.sovietcams.com/ this is a PT3550. It's in great shape - the only flaw is a few tiny scratches on the front element, but they're so small they're very hard to see even in bright light.
Super good lens. It's the same as but better across the board than my 1957 KMZ Jupiter-8 for Zorki. I don't know whether this is sample variation or wear-and-tear or German glass or what, but it's an excellent shooter. |
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sergtum
Joined: 14 Nov 2016 Posts: 735
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:13 am Post subject: |
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Phalbert
Joined: 17 May 2009 Posts: 359 Location: Namibia
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:02 am Post subject: |
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Phalbert wrote:
One question which does interest me is whether the Soligor 135/1.5 is the same, or a different design optically. The soligor lens certainly is different externally, following the standard styling of Soligor lenses in that period, many of which I am sure were from varying manufacturers.[/quote]
The Soligor 135mm f/1.5 is a totally different lens according to me.
- It weighs (a lot) more. 2,7kg vs about 2kg (or 2,2kg with hood) for the Vivitar Ina.
- It only has 12 blades where the Vivitar/INA has 16.
- It has a filterthread of 98mm where the Vivitar/INA 'only' has a thread of 95mm.
- Minimum focus for the Soligor is 1,2 meters vs 1,6 for the Vivitar/INA
- The production of the Soligor started 10 years after the first production-year of the Vivitar (1977 vs 1967).
And above all: The Vivitar/INA has 7 elements in 6 groups while the Soligor only has 6 elements in 4 groups.[/quote]
Very interesting indeed. I was one of those thinking they were the same. So who made them ? Can we assume the Soligor was Tokina made ? And what about the Vivitar ? Was it that Perkin Elmer or who ? _________________ 🙋 My wishlist: Titan or Idaho 135/1,8 Nikon Df Nikkor 105/1,8 35/1,4 85/1,4
My dream lenses: Zuiko 180/2 Prototype Zuiko 85/1,4
Zeiss CY: 55/1,2 85/1,2
Astro Berlin 250/2 Canon EF 50/1,0 85/1,2
Nikkor 105/1,4 28/1,4
My stolen stuff: Zuiko 24/2 #106874; Zuiko 35-80/2,8 #102180; Zuiko 35/2 #119168; Zuiko 90/2 macro #102858; Zuiko x1,4 converter #102019; Tamron 17/3,5 #400567; Tamron 400/4 #80407; Soligor 135/2 #17506600 Sigma 28/1,8 #1001124 |
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Lucse
Joined: 22 Jul 2015 Posts: 166 Location: EU
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:06 am Post subject: |
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Lucse wrote:
Phalbert wrote: |
Very interesting indeed. I was one of those thinking they were the same. So who made them ? Can we assume the Soligor was Tokina made ? And what about the Vivitar ? Was it that Perkin Elmer or who ? |
From all I have found on the internet nobody is able to answer that question with certainty. So I do not have an answer to it either. |
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benadamx
Joined: 25 Feb 2019 Posts: 329
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:20 am Post subject: seagull / haiou 64 |
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benadamx wrote:
been watching ebay for one of these at a reasonable price for a long while now, and today it miraculously turned up at the flea market for $25
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this appears to be a newer helios/biotar copy with funny bronze body details on the camera and lens - i'd still like the older original chrome-nose (or gold!) biotar copy, but this will be fun to play with in the meantime |
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sergtum
Joined: 14 Nov 2016 Posts: 735
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:44 am Post subject: Re: seagull / haiou 64 |
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sergtum wrote:
benadamx wrote: |
been watching ebay for one of these at a reasonable price for a long while now, and today it miraculously turned up at the flea market for $25
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16544 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:14 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
_________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3754 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:42 am Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Quite a few "junk" lenses with fogged glass or fungus, among them two Konica AR 1.4/50mm and a AR 4/65-135mm, a rare Konica "24X18" (half format) 3.5/47-100mm lens, a Tokina RMC 3.8/70-150mm, and a Vivitar "22" Series 1 3.5/70-210mm. In addition to that a white edition Minolta 8000i with a white AF 3.5/35-105mm lens and a white 5200i Flash, and a Nikkor-H Auto 4.5/300mm, the latter in good condition.
I'm quite curious about the 4.5/300mm Nikkor and how it will complare to the two 4.5/300mm ED Nikkors I have (the Ai 4.5/300mm ED "non-IF" and the AiS 4.5/300mm IF-ED).
Lots of stuff to first clean and then enjoy
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6009 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:04 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
KEO wrote: |
It's hard to believe how inexpensive these Kiev RF lenses are.
According to http://www.sovietcams.com/ this is a PT3550. It's in great shape - the only flaw is a few tiny scratches on the front element, but they're so small they're very hard to see even in bright light.
Super good lens. It's the same as but better across the board than my 1957 KMZ Jupiter-8 for Zorki. I don't know whether this is sample variation or wear-and-tear or German glass or what, but it's an excellent shooter. |
Yes, I have had the same experience as you.
My Jupiter 8M lenses perform better than the J8 too.
Quite a puzzle
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vivaldibow
Joined: 23 Jun 2018 Posts: 837
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:55 am Post subject: |
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vivaldibow wrote:
Petri 55mm 1.4. Need to search how to adapt to Sony E.
Cimko 25mm 3.5.
Sears 55-135mm 3.5, all metal version, probably made by Tokina |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6009 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
vivaldibow wrote: |
Petri 55mm 1.4. Need to search how to adapt to Sony E.
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That's a lens that I find interesting.
It would be great if you could get some images to share.
Congratulations
T |
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