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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16497 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:57 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Meopta 1.5/110mm in as good as new condition in makers box _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Yongnuo 2.8/40 (Nikon AF) _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
http://www.retrocamera.de |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Rollei Tessar 2.8/23 (removed from Rollei E110)
Minolta Rokkor 2.8/26 (removed from Weathermatic A)
Olympus D.Zuiko 3.5/28 (removed from Pen EE-3)
Korsar 2.8/35 (removed from Kiev 35A)
Rodenstock Trinar 2.8/38 (removed from Braun Pakmatic)
So now I have some DIY work to do re-barreling and remounting them. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1301 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
Was listed merely as "large russian telephoto". Just about LNIB.
_________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
A classic zoom or two: VS1 (komine), Kiron Zoomlock...
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Antoine
Joined: 08 Jan 2016 Posts: 298 Location: London
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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Antoine wrote:
Should not follow this forum... bought 2 lenses I don't need:
Minolta MD rokkor 50-135 mm 3.5
Minolta MD 24mm 2.8 (8/ (I already have the most recent 9/7...)
I blame people from Zurich... but will be able to compare the 2 24mm _________________ Antoine
Sony A6000 APS-C and Sony A7 Rii
Minolta Fisheye MD Rokkor 7.5 mm f4, Fisheye MD 16 f2.8 MD R 17mm f4, MD R 20mm f2.8, MC VFC & MDIII 24mm f2.8, MD 28mm f2.0 &3.5, MD II 35mm 1.8, MD 45mm f2.0, MD 50mm f 1.2 & MD I f1.4, MC PG 58mm 1.2, MD 85mm f2.0, MD R 85mm f2.8 Varisoft, MC 85mm f1.7 MD R 100mm f2.5, MD R 100mm f4.0 macro, MD III 135mm f2.8, MD R 200mm f2.8 & 4.0, RF 250mm f5.6, MD 300mm f4.5, MD APO 400 mm f5.6, RF 500mm f8.0, RF 800mm f8.0 *2 300-s and 300-l
100 mm f4 macro bellows (5/4)
Vivitar 17mm f3.5, Elicar 300mm mirror f5.6, Zhongi turbo ii
Sigma 16mm f 2.8 fish eye
Zooms:24-50 mm f4, 35-70 mm f3.5 macro, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5, 50-135 f 3.5, 70-210 f4 and MD APO 100-500 mm f8 |
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3461 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
marcusBMG wrote: |
Was listed merely as "large russian telephoto". Just about LNIB.
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Wow, nice find! How much? _________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1301 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
i wouldn't presume to ... let's just say I was very happy! _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
A classic zoom or two: VS1 (komine), Kiron Zoomlock... |
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3461 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
marcusBMG wrote: |
i wouldn't presume to ... let's just say I was very happy! |
_________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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Ouwesok
Joined: 01 Jul 2014 Posts: 50 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Ouwesok wrote:
Last week was a good one for the old-glass-departement.
- Sigma 2.8/24mm 'SuperZ' (attached to it was a FD-EOS glass adapter that was'nt quite as horrible as it should be)
- Sigma Super-Tele 5.6/400mm (not the best user but fits fine in my collection of old Sigma's)
- Zuiko 2.8/24mm OM (will be a nice user on my A7)
- Rokkor 2.8/35mm (also will be a nice user)
- Tokina AT-X 340 4/100-300mm with MD-mount
Tokina AT-X 340 by Ouwesok, on Flickr _________________ Formerly known as toeteraar |
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ADDCollector
Joined: 06 Mar 2018 Posts: 18
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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ADDCollector wrote:
Got a rare one recently.
An m42 Kyoei Acall 135mm f/3.5 preset lens.
Based on some limited use I suspect the lens's sharpness may exceed the capabilities of my camera's APS-C sensor. (It's been fairly gloomy here since I received it. I'm waiting for some better weather.) |
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3436 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
Canon SD 28mm 2.8 for Canon Demi C.
Some tinkering needed to get it on my Nex. |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
Yongnuo 2.8/40 (Nikon AF) |
Really not impressed after the first shots... _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
http://www.retrocamera.de |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16497 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
ADDCollector wrote: |
Got a rare one recently.
An m42 Kyoei Acall 135mm f/3.5 preset lens.
Based on some limited use I suspect the lens's sharpness may exceed the capabilities of my camera's APS-C sensor. (It's been fairly gloomy here since I received it. I'm waiting for some better weather.) |
rare piece, please show more!! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1840 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
ADDCollector wrote: |
Got a rare one recently.
An m42 Kyoei Acall 135mm f/3.5 preset lens.
Based on some limited use I suspect the lens's sharpness may exceed the capabilities of my camera's APS-C sensor. (It's been fairly gloomy here since I received it. I'm waiting for some better weather.) |
I think it's the same as mine, not sure though... but that is a sharp piece! I've not yet tested it on the A7 but here's some on a Sony A3000:
http://forum.mflenses.com/kyoei-acall-135mm-f-3-5-exakta-mount-t71093,highlight,%2Bkyoei+%2Bacall.html _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
Sony A7, Canon 5D mkII, Minolta 7D + RD3000 and some more.....
Minolta and Konica collector.... slowly selling all the other stuff! |
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Aviator
Joined: 31 Jan 2018 Posts: 22 Location: Mexico
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Aviator wrote:
A couple of Carl Zeiss Jena Biotars now part of my gear!
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3436 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
Aviator wrote: |
A couple of Carl Zeiss Jena Biotars now part of my gear! |
Nice!!
I purchased two Konica AR lenses:
Hexanon 52mm 1.8 and
Hexanon 135mm 3.2 |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:47 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
This one.
It was advertised as f3.5 so attracted little interest.
T
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16497 Location: Weinheim, Germany
Expire: 2021-03-09
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:00 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Congrats, very nice lens! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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cyberjunkie
Joined: 24 Mar 2010 Posts: 282 Location: Chiang Mai, Bologna, Amsterdam
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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cyberjunkie wrote:
ADDCollector wrote: |
Got a rare one recently.
An m42 Kyoei Acall 135mm f/3.5 preset lens.
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I love Kyoei objectives
Unfortunately they are not so common in M42 mount, mostly LTM.
I also a have Soligor 3.5/35mm made by Kyoei (serial starting with KA), which is known for letting through plenty of UV light. It is said to be better in this regard than the famous Novoflexar Macro 3.5/35mm. Our moderator should know all too well about this stuff...
Just bought the first LTM Kyoei. It was so nice, with its dedicated finder, caps, cloth...
So i bid very low, but to my surprise i won the auction!
It looks incredibly nice for the price. I hope it will prove it's worth.
Given the way it's made it could be easily converted to PK mount (I usually shoot Pentax full frame), but it's too nice looking to butcher it, so I think it will go on M4/3. Too long a focal, though. I'll see.
Here is the little beast:
Kyoei Super Acall f/3.5 135mm M39
I've also found one more Steinheil triplet (Cassaron 3.5/40mm in M42 mount), and a second example of Meyer Primotar 3.5/135mm (black M42 version with 13 diaphragm blades).
The latter was acquired as a kind of crazy bet. I hope the diaphragm blades would be compatible with a very nice M42 alu Trioplan 2.8/100mm that came with ALL the thirteen blades either broken or severely mangled.
I've also found another cheap (21 euros) catch. An Edixa-Mat D-L with a late Isco Westromat 1.9/50mm.
AFAIK it's the same as the Schneider Xenon...
I was actually looking for a Westron 2/50mm, which should be an Ultron-type, but I still haven't found one at a decent price.
Steinheil Cassaron f/3.5 40mm M42
Meyer Primotar f/3.5 135mm M42
ISCO Westromat f/1.9 50mm M42
cheers
Paolo _________________ Pentax Bodies: 6x7, K2, MX, LX, Super A, Z-1, K-1, K-5 II, K-01, K10D, K200D
Other cameras: Leica CL, Leica M5, Rolleiflex, Mamiya Super 23, Horizont, and many bellows cameras from 4x5" to 8x10"
- Shooting only digital recently, FF and APS-C
- Collecting vintage large format lenses (plenty of them )
- Looking for Pentax-A* 200mm Macro and Pentax-A* 1.8/135mm, Sigma 150mm or 180mm Macro PK, Sigma 50-500 AF PK, Enna 1.5/85mm M42; selling Pentacon Six/Pentax 67/Mamiya Press/Leica M/Rolleiflex/4x5"/Manfrotto stuff
MY BELOVED PK, M42 LENSES
Photographica sets
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16497 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
_________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Thank you Klaus.
Yes, very happy to have found that one.
Paolo, I have the Isco 1.9/50 as the Westrocolor in Exakta mount.
I think it is the same lens - a very nice lens indeed.
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wolfhansen
Joined: 06 Oct 2013 Posts: 511 Location: Germany, Ruhr Area
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:23 am Post subject: |
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wolfhansen wrote:
Fujimoto Anastigmat 3.5/75mm Enlarger Lens M39 _________________ Greets
Wolfgang |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2901 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:13 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Topcor 58/1.8
Heavily used, but only 25€ 😊 |
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Mr G
Joined: 27 Jan 2014 Posts: 187 Location: London & Essex
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Mr G wrote:
Canon ts-e 24mm f3.5L, vendor needed a quick sale, stunning condition, let's just say my best buy for quite some time by a country mile! _________________ EVEN A BLIND SQUIRREL FINDS A NUT NOW AND THEN! |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16497 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:28 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Schneider Macro-Varon 85mm 0.5...2x (APO and resolves up to 2.5 micron) _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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