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martyn_bannister
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 Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:27 am Post subject: Re: what are the biggest bargains you have found? |
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Hard to find lens and not many 500mm lens better even for $$$ so this was a good deal really especially if you can use it frequently I have several long lens and I almost never use any of them. |
I am certainly hoping it's good. It's definitely a tripod only thing though, but I am looking for some good moon shots and hopefully some planet/deep sky stuff if I even get my barn-door mount project off the ground  |
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tbrand
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I'm very happy...just bought an Vivitar Series 1 70-210, f3,5 with both Caps and Hardcase for 10,25 GBP. Lens was described as very good Condition with absolut clear and scratch free Lenses. Seller has 100% positive Feedback.
I may think, thats a good Price for this Lens, isn't it?
Can anybody tell me wich Version of the Vivitar Series 1 it is? Look at this Foto.. and THX for Help
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sichko
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sichko wrote:
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Can anybody tell me wich Version of the Vivitar Series 1 it is?
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The following link might help ...
http://www.robertstech.com/vivitar.htm
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tbrand
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Oh Thank you, So it must be the Version 1, the Kiron Version, because it has a Filter Diameter from 67mm, and the Kiron Version ist the only one with 67mm Diameter. |
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cooltouch
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cooltouch wrote:
Nothing particularly remarkable, but still a bargain. Went to a thrift store just down the street from me the other day. Whenever I go there, I always check their camera gear. So far, it's always been cheapo point-n-shoot 35mm cameras. This time, though, I spotted a camera bag. Inside was, sadly, no camera. At one time it had contained a Pentax ME Super (manual was still there). There was a Winder ME II with manual, a Hanimex 80-200/4.5, a Starblitz 28/2.8, and a Vivitar 2600 flash, along with a couple of other miscellaneous pieces. Everything looks to be in virtually mint, unused condition.
Picked it up for $12. Not sure what I'm gonna do with it yet, but I couldn't just let it sit there. 
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mo
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| Picked it up for $12. Not sure what I'm gonna do with it yet, but I couldn't just let it sit there. |
Another orphan gatherer.... 
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Minolfan
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And here one more.
This morning I was on the local thrift market, curious if there was something interesting for me on low budget. Hardly anything about photography till...
I came along an Exakta Varex IIb with an unknown lens on it. Enna Tele-Ennalyt 135mm 2.8 in great condition. The Varex seemed to work OK, however the firtst curtain was a bit wrinkled. Shutter and transport smooth. Badge glued roughly (at least it was there) Case stiil very usefull.
So I asked the price. It was € 15, including a Tessar, two auto extension rings and a cable relaes in the box of the Enna. I couldn't let it there for that money!
The Tessar has survived some kind of war, filter and focusing ring dented, but still working. I need some power to focus, nothing to use unrepaired.
Anxious to come sleek along the dog I had forgotten my money, so I asked the man to keep the stuff for less than half an our. Returned with the hairy friend, the seller asked my interest for a Praktica MTL5B, looking great but by former clients said to be stuck. He had tried to put in a new battery, without any succes. So I told him that the battery has nothing to do with the shutter in this model. Mechanical problem and the aperture of the lens was stuck too. For another € 2 I can try to get the combo working.
At least the very good case is perfect for my other Praktica.
(Pictures with KM5D and Vivitar S1 70-210 (Kiron))
In the first place I am interested in the Enna. It might be not a stellar lens, but it works and looks great on the Exakta. The MFD of 2.20m can be compensated by the small extension ring.
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Generally Enna lenses have less good reputation than other German made ones. I never have it, I expect quite good result due hard to find bad 135mm lens.
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ZoneV
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6 Pentax primes (24/2.8 35/2.0 50/1.4 50/4.0 85/2.0 200/4.0) for 100 Euro with backpack and some filters.
One day I found a Zeiss Planar 50/1.4 for 50 Euro.
Or three cheaper Nikkor prime lenses and a Nikon F2 AS - for 40 Euros.
That are the good ones. Now the bad experiences:
I bought on Ebay a Canon FD 300/2.8 from the states, so I have to pay freight and tax. And I got a lens with defective screws heads and heavy fungus inside. Ebay gave me the maximum 175 Euros back, but that was still some 600 Euros left for that lens :-/
The fungus has etched the lens, but it is possbile to use it and I got some nice images.
On the day I found the 6 Pentax lenses one bought in front of me a Gossen spotmaster and some lenses (one small Zeiss lens) for 17 Euro.
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rafa1981
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I bought a very interesting kit with:
- Konica autoreflex T3.
- Agfa 353 CSI flash (valid for digital, low voltage threshold).
- Various filters.
- A metal carry case.
and here comes the good thing:
- Hexanon AR 24 f2.8.
- Hexanon AR 50 f1.4
- Hexanon AR 50-200 f3.5.
Price: 70€ at ebay deutschland.
Another one, more incredible:
- Chinon CS.
- Some filters.
- MINT Chinon 55 f1.7.
- MINT Chinon 35 f2.8
- MINT Chinon 135 f2.8
Price: 6€ plus shipping inside Spain, 12€.
Kiron 28 f2 in Konica AR mount 22€. |
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Nordentro
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Nordentro wrote:
I got a Meyer domiplan 50mm/f2.8 for 0.99 $ 
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rawhead
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Here's mine for today. Kern Macro-Switar 26mm F1.1 (C-mount).
I got it with its older brother, Macro Switar 50mm f1.4 for $800.
Believe me, it *is* a bargain
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Nordentro
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Nordentro wrote:
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Here's mine for today. Kern Macro-Switar 26mm F1.1 (C-mount).
I got it with its older brother, Macro Switar 50mm f1.4 for $800.
Believe me, it *is* a bargain |
Awesome Maybe you can post some samples from these beauties on the cine lens forum?? 
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rawhead
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Awesome Maybe you can post some samples from these beauties on the cine lens forum?? |
I will, as soon as I get a new adapter; my c-mount -> m4/3 adapter has a small outer diameter which disallows mounting of both of the Macro-Switars. Here it's attached with a 5mm extension tube. I can do reaaaaal close-up shots only
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Chiti
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Chiti wrote:
Hi!
My biggest bargain....
Tamron AD2 70-210 46A.... 1€ in ebay
Shipping cost... 2 or 3€ because the seller combined the shipping cost and I was bidding for a contax 200/3.5
And this Tamron looks very well...one shot with it in the 5D II (f5.6)
Regards!
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zippie
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I was able to purchase this week a mint pentax Electro Spotmatic Black finish with 3 lenses.
The complete set contains:
-mint pentax Electro Spotmatic Black finish
- S-M-C Takumar 135/3.5
- S-M-C Takumar 50/1.8
- S-M-C Takumar 35/3.5
- Filters, lenshoods, front & rear caps, and original boxes.
- 2X teleconverter
Price total set 80€
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symphonic
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My first real bargain... Today I got a Tair 11A in nice shape for 300kn (~50 USD). 
Not exactly a spectacular deal like some from this thread, but I think it's good as the prices on ebay are mostly around 120-170$.
Looking forward to comparing it to Sonnar 135/3.5.
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hexi
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hexi wrote:
I was today at a local shop, just to check if they have some intersting cameras/lenses. It's a kind of shop where people sell basically everything, and you can have good bargains on some things, especially guitars , stuff .; well
many film cameras including X700's Canon's then i check lenses : a beautiful 135mm 2.8 Pentacon sits there , perfect from barrel to lenses, trying it on my camera and buing for a fair price of 20€ , i'm very happy !
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
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I bought a very interesting kit with:
- Konica autoreflex T3.
- Agfa 353 CSI flash (valid for digital, low voltage threshold).
- Various filters.
- A metal carry case.
and here comes the good thing:
- Hexanon AR 24 f2.8.
- Hexanon AR 50 f1.4
- Hexanon AR 50-200 f3.5.
Price: 70€ at ebay deutschland.
Another one, more incredible:
- Chinon CS.
- Some filters.
- MINT Chinon 55 f1.7.
- MINT Chinon 35 f2.8
- MINT Chinon 135 f2.8
Price: 6€ plus shipping inside Spain, 12€.
Kiron 28 f2 in Konica AR mount 22€. |
They were free gift I bought only Konica 24mm higher price than you whole kit.
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FernandoB12
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I bought today a Super Takumar 85mm f/1.9 looks like brand like new. Price: US$10.
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
 Bargain of YEAR! Congrats!
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rawhead
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The other day I picked up a Pentax 645N with 75/2.8 and 45/2.8 for $150. The 45/2.8 is going to be sold for about that amount
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FernandoB12
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Thanks Attila, I'll post some images tomorow.
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
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| The other day I picked up a Pentax 645N with 75/2.8 and 45/2.8 for $150. The 45/2.8 is going to be sold for about that amount |
I thought even a 645N body without lens more expensive.
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CarbonR
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Today, a S-M-C Tak 28/3.5 w/ front cap minty, 25€.
Two days ago, a S-M-C Tak 500/4.5 w/ case, 175€.
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Wide angle : Takumar 15/3.5 15mm, Takumar 17/4 17mm, Takumar 18/11 18mm, Takumar 20/4.5 20mm, Takumar 24/3.5 24mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V1 28mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V2 28mm, Takumar 35/2 V1 35mm, Takumar 35/2 V2 35mm, Takumar 35/2.3 35mm, Takumar 35/3.5 35mm, Takumar 35/4 35mm
Standard : Takumar 50/1.4 V1 50mm, Takumar 50/1.4 V2 50mm, Takumar 50/3.5 50mm, Takumar 50/4 50mm, Takumar 55/2 55/1.8 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V1 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V2 55mm, Takumar 58/2 58mm, Takumar 58/2.4 58mm
Short tele : Takumar 83/1.9 83mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85/1.9 85mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85mm, Takumar 100/2 100mm, Takumar 100/3.5 100mm, Takumar 100/4 100mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V1 105mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V2 105mm, Takumar 120/2.8 120mm
Telephoto : Takumar 135/2.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/2.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 150/4 V1 150mm, Takumar 150/4 V2 150mm
Long tele : Takumar 200/3.5 200mm, Takumar 200/4 200mm, Takumar 200/5.6 200mm, Takumar 300/4 V1 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V2 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V3 300mm, Takumar 300/6.3 300mm, Takumar 400/5.6 400mm, Takumar 500/4.5 500mm, Takumar 500/5 500mm, Takumar 1000/8 V1 1000mm, Takumar 1000/8 V2 1000mm
Zoom : Zoom-Takumar 45~125/4 , Zoom-Takumar 70~150/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 85~210/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 135~600/6.7
Achromatic : Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 85/4.5 , Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 300/5.6 300mm |
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