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Russ
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 Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:12 am Post subject: Vivitar Series 1 70-210 lenses. |
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Russ wrote:
Regarding Viv S-1 glass. There are numerous ( Series 1, 70-210 lenses. However, for the sake of discussion, we will deal with the first five. The following editions are nothing to seriously consider, so we will concentrate on the first three editions, which are the good one's. The 4th & 5th editions are also 2.8-4 variable aperture model's, but lacking in construction quality (Cosina built). Due to the fact that the third one is a variable aperture lens, (2.8-4) it will be somewhat sharper than a fixed aperture lenses. It is much easier to design and build a quality variable aperture lens. The first edition was designed by Vivitar (Ellis Betensky had a hand in it) and built by Kiron. (67mm filter) It is a professional caliber lens, with a 1:2 macro feature built into it. It was the first zoom, designed with the aid of computers, that truly rivaled the OEM lenses of the time. That was in "76."
The second edition (my personal favorite) was built by Tokina, per, Vivitars specs. It too, is a fixed 3.5 aperture, but smaller, lighter and sharper. (62mm filter size). I really like it because of the fixed 3.5 aperture which is nice for focusing in dim light and long range flash work. However, not a true macro, 1:4 life size.
The third edition was made by Komine, and like the first two, is very well built. It is a 2.8-4 variable aperture lens, and the sharpest of the bunch. It has 1:2.5 life size macro from 100-210mm's, with a working distance of about two feet. Which can be quite useful. Can you see a discernible difference in slides taken with either one of them? No! Don't get caught up in bench tests. Any of the first three editions will give you professional-publishable images. I really like this lens, and in time may become my favorite.
Personally, I recommend the second or third edition of the line. I have and use all three of the first editions, and can highly recommend any one of them. Superb optics and construction.
If you have anymore questions about the Vivitar or Kiron lenses, or want more detailed information on a particular lens, please don't hesitate to ask. Are you aware of the Viv S-1 28-90 or the Kiron 28-85, Kiron 28-105 and the phenomenal Kiron 105 macro lens? As for Kiron glass, well that's another discussion.........
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Hey Russ, thank you for this detailed information about one of the most famous Kiron/Vivitar product. I got a Vivitar close focusing macro converter yesterday do you have any experience with that ?
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Russ
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Russ wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| Hey Russ, thank you for this detailed information about one of the most famous Kiron/Vivitar product. I got a Vivitar close focusing macro converter yesterday do you have any experience with that ? |
Attila
Is it the "macro-focusing" teleconverter? If so, it's a very good seven (7) element design. It was designed by Vivitar, and made for them by Kino Precision Industries (Kiron). Kiron also had their own seven element 2x teleconverter. However, the Kiron model is not a macro-focusing teleconverter. Both of them, are very good.
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Attila wrote:
YES, macro-focusing teleconverter , so I am happy now! Thanks!
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Orio wrote:
Kiron maybe you have a good link or two to sort out the garbled question of the origin of the various Vivitar lenses?
We are building what we hope will become a large and (hopefully, if we manage it well) well searchable archive of photo links in the links forum. We really need good sources on the Vivitars to be posted there.
Same goes for equally garbled Leica lenses history if anyone has good links, please post them there.
Actually, the above invitation is valid for any subject related to the manual lenses and cameras.
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Ballen Photo
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Ballen Photo wrote:
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| Kiron maybe you have a good link or two to sort out the garbled question of the origin of the various Vivitar lenses? |
Well, The first, and most obvous place to start is a link to Camera Quest's page entitled Who made that Vivitar Lens? I'll post a link.
http://www.cameraquest.com/VivLensManuf.htm
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Himself wrote:
Some info here
http://medfmt.8k.com/third/index.html |
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Russ
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Russ wrote:
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| Orio wrote: |
| Kiron maybe you have a good link or two to sort out the garbled question of the origin of the various Vivitar lenses? |
Well, The first, and most obvous place to start is a link to Camera Quest's page entitled Who made that Vivitar Lens? I'll post a link.
http://www.cameraquest.com/VivLensManuf.htm
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Bruce
Don't take the "Gandy" list as the gospel truth. It's got numerous mistakes and omissions. If you find a Vivitar lens with an unlisted number, give me the serial #, and I'll give you its origin.
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Attila wrote:
@Kiron Kid How about this content ? Is it trust able source ?
http://www.robertstech.com/vivitar.htm
I would make an article from your post on mflenses.com. Are you allowed to me ? Can you send some Vivitar Series 1 photos from different variations? I would illustrate the article with them. And I will link into your post also.
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Russ
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Russ wrote:
[quote="Attila"]@Kiron Kid How about this content ? Is it trust able source ?
http://www.robertstech.com/vivitar.htm
Yes, Robert's info is fairly correct. I supplied him with some of it, for the making of his site. He does not list a few of the lens manufacturers though.
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Ballen Photo wrote:
| Russ wrote: |
| Don't take the "Gandy" list as the gospel truth. It's got numerous mistakes and omissions. If you find a Vivitar lens with an unlisted number, give me the serial #, and I'll give you its origin. |
Thanks Russ, As a point of curiousity, do you have a source or link that you consider reliable aside from roberts tech for other than series 1 lenses?
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Russ
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Russ wrote:
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| Russ wrote: |
| Don't take the "Gandy" list as the gospel truth. It's got numerous mistakes and omissions. If you find a Vivitar lens with an unlisted number, give me the serial #, and I'll give you its origin. |
Thanks Russ, As a point of curiousity, do you have a source or link that you consider reliable aside from roberts tech for other than series 1 lenses?
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Yes, a couple of decades or more of researching Vivitar products, plus, a buddy still employed at Vivitar.
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Ballen Photo
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Ballen Photo wrote:
| Russ wrote: |
| Yes, a couple of decades or more of researching Vivitar products, plus, a buddy still employed at Vivitar. |
Sounds good to me Russ. Now I know who to ask for questions about Vivitar.
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Russ
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Russ wrote:
| Ballen Photo wrote: |
| Russ wrote: |
| Yes, a couple of decades or more of researching Vivitar products, plus, a buddy still employed at Vivitar. |
Sounds good to me Russ. Now I know who to ask for questions about Vivitar.
-Bruce |
Let us not forget the superb Kiron glass 
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Attila wrote:
I have Kiron 105mm f/2.5 macro that is phenomenal lens, next in my collection Kiron 28-210mm very good all purpose lens. Unfortunately I bought a Kiron 35-135mm lens with faulty, aperture not works. Is it easy to fix it ? What is the next lens in your recommendation ?
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LucisPictor wrote:
Thanks, Russ!
Very informative!
I guess, if you can get a Series 1 Vivitar for a good price you shouldn't hesitate. 
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