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saffersteve
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 Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:14 am Post subject: Vivitar 28mm 2.8 MC wide angle (hidden gem?) |
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saffersteve wrote:
In fd mount and I believe it Komine made as the serial begins with 28
For the price of £9....I believe, you may disagree, this 28 punches above its weight.
Not the sharpest tool in the shead but don't believe any of my 28's are sharp on landscapes, however In my next thread a will compare all my 28mm.
Picture taken on NEX-5 (42mm eq Focal Lenth on 1.5 crop)
F16
1/125 (hand held)
Shot JPEG no photo editing just resize and crop. Not bad colour.
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ManualFocus-G
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
It's certainly a gem, but not unknown 
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=18808
http://www.flickr.com/photos/manualfocus-g/4160645871/
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Riku
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Riku wrote:
Why F16? Diffraction limits the sharpness. It will probably be sharpest at F8 and there will be enough DOF.
I had this lens and it was as sharp as anything at f8, but pretty poor at f2.8 and f4.
Vivitar 28/2 Close Focus is the gem, but too many people know about it |
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revers
Joined: 13 May 2010
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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revers wrote:
I have two Vivitar 28s,
28/2.5 by Kiron
28/2.8 by Bauer.
They both close focus to 1' (0.3m). I have not tested them head to head though.
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Olympus OM-D E-M5, 14-42 & 45/1.8.
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walter g
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
| revers wrote: |
I have two Vivitar 28s,
28/2.5 by Kiron
28/2.8 by Bauer.
They both close focus to 1' (0.3m). I have not tested them head to head though. |
That's just the last marking on the 28 2.5, and it goes past that. In reality it's better then that.
I haven't measured but it's around 8" close focus. 
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Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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revers
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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revers wrote:
| walter g wrote: |
That's just the last marking on the 28 2.5, and it goes past that. In reality it's better then that.
I haven't measured but it's around 8" close focus. |
Well Walter you made me check. I am afraid you are looking @ the distance from the lens to subject & not subject to film/sensor plane.
I set up the camera on a tripod & carefully focused at the minimum distance using focusing rails & measured subject to sensor & took a pic with each lens wide open. Here are the results:
1. 28/2.5 Kiron, 11 3/4" (30cm)
2. 28/2.8 Bauer, 12 1/4" (31cm)
Both are as close as damn is to swearing to 1' (.3m)
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Olympus OM-D E-M5, 14-42 & 45/1.8.
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walter g
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:54 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
| revers wrote: |
| walter g wrote: |
That's just the last marking on the 28 2.5, and it goes past that. In reality it's better then that.
I haven't measured but it's around 8" close focus. |
Well Walter you made me check. I am afraid you are looking @ the distance from the lens to subject & not subject to film/sensor plane.
I set up the camera on a tripod & carefully focused at the minimum distance using focusing rails & measured subject to sensor & took a pic with each lens wide open. Here are the results:
1. 28/2.5 Kiron, 11 3/4" (30cm)
2. 28/2.8 Bauer, 12 1/4" (31cm)
Both are as close as damn is to swearing to 1' (.3m) |
Well 8" was a guesstmate, and I was off. Testing handheld measurement from film/sensor plane is approx. 9.5".
Remember there are 2 different versions of this lens. I thought the only main difference was filter size, but it looks like the Min. focus difference is
different to.
I will try to take the time to test it with a tripod, to make sure I Didn't make a mistake.
How far does your lens go past the 1' mark, mine goes 7/16" past.
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Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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kuuan
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ManualFocus-G
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:08 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Which is the gem of a 28/2 is the good one? I had the Kiron but wasn't that impressed. I have the Komine 24/2 which is superb stopped down, but naff wide open. But at least it doesn't flare like crazy like the Kiron 28/2 does wide open. Still think the Komine 28/2.8 is great bang for buck!
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kuuan
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:33 am Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
from what I remember reading it is the f2.8 which says 'close focus' which seems to get the best reports.
My Kiron f2 is ok, I like it..for being f2..and though it's sharpness may not be great it is good enough for my taste. But colors don't come anywhere near to those of my Takumars.
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walter g
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:49 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| Which is the gem of a 28/2 is the good one? I had the Kiron but wasn't that impressed. I have the Komine 24/2 which is superb stopped down, but naff wide open. But at least it doesn't flare like crazy like the Kiron 28/2 does wide open. Still think the Komine 28/2.8 is great bang for buck! |
I want to try the Kiron version 28/2 but haven't bought one yet, but that's only to hold me until I can get a Minolta 28/2.
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Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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revers
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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revers wrote:
| walter g wrote: |
How far does your lens go past the 1' mark, mine goes 7/16" past. |
Just a tad less @ 3/8".
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