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zoolez
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 Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:49 pm Post subject: Helios 81 |
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zoolez wrote:
Hey
My name is Zoli and i'm from Transsylvania.
I would like to have a question in the hope that someone could help me.
There are Helios 81 lenses without any other marking (like Helios 81H, Heios 81M)
What type of mount does this lens have? I just bought one MC Helios-81 2/50 and i would like to know before the lens arrives.
Happy New Year and all the best from Transsylvania!
Sorry for my poor hungarian english! |
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uddhava
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uddhava wrote:
Welcome to the forum.
Some intelligent forum member will give an answer I'm sure.
I answered simply for emotional support. 
If you can post a photo of the lens showing the mount that will help. |
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kendo1
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kendo1 wrote:
Hi.
Nikon F mount, I think. |
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twinquartz
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twinquartz wrote:
Hi and welcome!
You will find some information here: http://allphotolenses.com/lenses/item/c_396.html
Please do not apologize for your "Hungarian English".
You would be terrified of my "Hungarian"! |
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RSalles
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RSalles wrote:
Last time I was with Dracula he told me he was born in Romenia.
Wellcome guy, post a picture of the lens mount, it will be more easy to identify the mount,
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kryss wrote:
zoolez.. Your English is great.I can't even spell ungariann. Welcome and Happy New year
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raay04
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| Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:52 am Post subject: Re: Helios 81 |
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raay04 wrote:
| zoolez wrote: |
Hey
My name is Zoli and i'm from Transsylvania.
I would like to have a question in the hope that someone could help me.
There are Helios 81 lenses without any other marking (like Helios 81H, Heios 81M)
What type of mount does this lens have? I just bought one MC Helios-81 2/50 and i would like to know before the lens arrives.
Happy New Year and all the best from Transsylvania!
Sorry for my poor hungarian english! |
Hello Zoli ,its Nikon F mount
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Welcome Zoli! Nice to see a countryman here!
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Welcome Zoli! Nice to see a countryman here!
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zoolez
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| Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:18 pm Post subject: Szevasztok |
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zoolez wrote:
Thanx for all the kind words and for the feedbacks for all of you. 
I asked because i read on the internet that exists Helios 81 lenses with m42 mount on Nikon F mount cameras, the ones with simple Helios-81 mark (without H or M mark at the end).
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Gurdie
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| Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: Szevasztok |
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Gurdie wrote:
| zoolez wrote: |
I asked because i read on the internet that exists Helios 81 lenses with m42 mount on Nikon F mount cameras, the ones with simple Helios-81 mark (without H or M mark at the end).
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I´m not quite sure what do you mean, but in the picture, the lens is mounted on a Kiev-19 camera, which uses Nikon F-mount.
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zoolez
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| Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:18 am Post subject: Re: Szevasztok |
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zoolez wrote:
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I´m not quite sure what do you mean, but in the picture, the lens is mounted on a Kiev-19 camera, which uses Nikon F-mount. |
I read on a site that the simple marked Helios lens is a rare type with m42 mount. The Helios-80H Helios-81M is nikon mount. How could be that, or it is possible?
Thanx for the replies.
Regards, zoli |
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Nordentro wrote:
Helios 81H is for Nikon (N is H in Russian letter) and 81M for m42 probably?!? 
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sichko
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sichko wrote:
[quote="zoolez"]
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| zoolez wrote: |
I´m not quite sure what do you mean, but in the picture, the lens is mounted on a Kiev-19 camera, which uses Nikon F-mount. |
I read on a site that the simple marked Helios lens is a rare type with m42 mount. The Helios-80H Helios-81M is nikon mount. How could be that, or it is possible?
Thanx for the replies.
Regards, zoli |
Gurdie is correct. The Kiev 19 is normally, or maybe always, Nikon-F mount. Carry out a picture search for "Helios 81" and you will find pictures of the Helios 81 mounted on Nikon bodies.
The Helios 81M is also found in F-mount. It is 53mm f/2 and doesn't have an Ai metering ridge. Again - a picture search will help.
The Helios 81H, 50/2 is found in Nikon F mount and has an Ai metering ridge.
Lenses designed for the Kiev 19 (Nikon F mount) were often supplied with interchangeable mounts. So for example you can find a MIR 24H (35/2) with either a Nikon F mount or an M42 mount. The MIR 24M designed for M42 is different. Maybe the Helios 81 series also came with interchangeable mounts.
Note that there is another Helios 81 which is designed for earlier "Russian" SLRs (Kiev 10, Kiev 15 ???). It doesn't have an aperture ring and is very difficult to use on other cameras.
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zoolez
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zoolez wrote:
Thanx Sichko for the detailed answer. Interchangeable means lenses with different backs?
regards, zoli |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: Szevasztok |
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Gurdie wrote:
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Gurdie is correct. The Kiev 19 is normally, or maybe always, Nikon-F mount. Carry out a picture search for "Helios 81" and you will find pictures of the Helios 81 mounted on Nikon bodies.
The Helios 81M is also found in F-mount. It is 53mm f/2 and doesn't have an Ai metering ridge. Again - a picture search will help.
The Helios 81H, 50/2 is found in Nikon F mount and has an Ai metering ridge. |
Oops! I just noticed, that my copy of Helios 81 is without any H (N) marking, just like in your pic. 
Serial number is 92063xx. And it has F-mount. There is no Ai metering ridge, I had to glue a piece of plastic there, see this thread.
http://forum.mflenses.com/helios-81n-50mm-f-2-full-frame-pics-t50921,highlight,%2Bhelios+%2B81n.html
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Thanx Sichko for the detailed answer. Interchangeable means lenses with different backs?
regards, zoli |
Yes...
Many russian lenses are available in M42 screwmount (Name-M) or Nikon bayonet (Name-H) and share the same formula.
For instance, the 35mm 2.0 MIR-24M in M42 mount vs MIR-24H in nikon mount
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zoolez
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| Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:46 pm Post subject: Thnax for the feedbacks |
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zoolez wrote:
Thank you Vitor for clarifications. And thanx a lot Gurdie for pointing out the thread about the lens modification. Very clever.
regards, zoli |
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lxg
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| Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 7:58 am Post subject: Re: Helios 81 |
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lxg wrote:
| zoolez wrote: |
Hey
My name is Zoli and i'm from Transsylvania.
I would like to have a question in the hope that someone could help me.
There are Helios 81 lenses without any other marking (like Helios 81H, Heios 81M)
What type of mount does this lens have? I just bought one MC Helios-81 2/50 and i would like to know before the lens arrives.
Happy New Year and all the best from Transsylvania!
Sorry for my poor hungarian english! |
What is the mount type of this lens then?
In eBay, I found a Helios-81H but with M42 mount.
Click here to see on Ebay
Is it original?
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Why the preview is OK but the link and pics are lost once submitted?
the item number in eBay is 304648837565. |
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calvin83
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| Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:43 am Post subject: Re: Helios 81 |
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calvin83 wrote:
| lxg wrote: |
| zoolez wrote: |
Hey
My name is Zoli and i'm from Transsylvania.
I would like to have a question in the hope that someone could help me.
There are Helios 81 lenses without any other marking (like Helios 81H, Heios 81M)
What type of mount does this lens have? I just bought one MC Helios-81 2/50 and i would like to know before the lens arrives.
Happy New Year and all the best from Transsylvania!
Sorry for my poor hungarian english! |
What is the mount type of this lens then?
In eBay, I found a Helios-81H but with M42 mount.
Click here to see on Ebay
Is it original?
#1
#2
p.s.
Why the preview is OK but the link and pics are lost once submitted?
the item number in eBay is 304648837565. |
The description says: rare modification for an M42 mount
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lxg
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| Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:48 am Post subject: Re: Helios 81 |
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lxg wrote:
| calvin83 wrote: |
| lxg wrote: |
| zoolez wrote: |
Hey
My name is Zoli and i'm from Transsylvania.
I would like to have a question in the hope that someone could help me.
There are Helios 81 lenses without any other marking (like Helios 81H, Heios 81M)
What type of mount does this lens have? I just bought one MC Helios-81 2/50 and i would like to know before the lens arrives.
Happy New Year and all the best from Transsylvania!
Sorry for my poor hungarian english! |
What is the mount type of this lens then?
In eBay, I found a Helios-81H but with M42 mount.
Click here to see on Ebay
Is it original?
#1
#2
p.s.
Why the preview is OK but the link and pics are lost once submitted?
the item number in eBay is 304648837565. |
The description says: rare modification for an M42 mount |
Thanks. |
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Manichaean
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: Helios 81 |
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Manichaean wrote:
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The description says: rare modification for an M42 mount |
The thing is - this series of lenses (from Arsenal plant in Kiev) were normally supplied with interchangable mounts. I remember getting Kalienar-5H with both, Nikon mount (installed) and M42 (as an extra option). Also in my full box set of Mir-20H an additional M42 interchangable mount was included. The same mount was obviously supplied with Helios-81H.
Normally people kept Nikon mount by default, but sometimes swapped it for M42. It was easy - only unscrew 3 screws and swap mount. So, the mistery is solved ) |
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