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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 821
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:53 pm Post subject: Minolta MCII 1,4 58 |
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lumens pixel wrote:
First test. Here F3,5.
Sharpness, bokeh et al.
[img]La feuille | The leaf by lumens pixel, sur Flickr[/img] _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2901 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Nice lens and picture👍 |
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papasito
Joined: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 1658
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
It's not the best in control of flare and CA, as almost all MC Minolta lenses, but in b&w it's a very good lens |
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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 821
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
papasito wrote: |
It's not the best in control of flare and CA, as almost all MC Minolta lenses, but in b&w it's a very good lens |
It actually shows less CA than the MDIII 50 1,4... _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 821
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
caspert79 wrote: |
Nice lens and picture👍 |
Thank you ! _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3749 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
lumens pixel wrote: |
papasito wrote: |
It's not the best in control of flare and CA, as almost all MC Minolta lenses, but in b&w it's a very good lens |
It actually shows less CA than the MDIII 50 1,4... |
Generally speaking the lenses with newer high refractive glass often have more lateral CAs than older lenses with "traditional" glass. This is true even within the same series of lenses, eg with the MD-III 2/50mm, the MD-III 1.4/50mm and the MD-III 1.2/50mm: the slow 2/50 has least CAs, and the fast 1.2/50 has the strongest lateral CAs. The 2/50mm uses glass with nD of about 1.72, but the 1.2/50m uses glass with nD>1.8 which has more dispersion of course.
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Dejan
Joined: 05 Jan 2021 Posts: 138 Location: Belgrade, Serbia
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Dejan wrote:
Yeah, I don't really have problems with CA or any kinds of fringing with this lens myself. Stopped down I usually see none, when there is I find it easy to remove. I find it better in this regard than most vintage F1.4 lenses actually, but there are different shooting situations and we might have different experiences.
I really appreciate the rendering starting from F2, and I adore this lens for landscape (at around F8, depending on everything we usually consider). I find the colours great as starting point for processing (no need to spend much time really), and when there are great colours, as ironic as it sounds, I find this great for monochrome too (since there's nice tonality to work with).
Wide open I find the double-edged bokeh too harsh in most situations, but not every situation, sometimes it works out really well (and that's usually when shooting really up close, or with perfectly matched distances between the camera, subject and background).
Another thing that really does matter to me is the beautiful handling and tactile feel of the lens, it's a joy to use; and it looks really nice too. I also find, at least this MC-II version, much better optically than some believe it is. Corners might need F8 where some newer 50mm lenses need only F5.6, for corner to corner absolute sharpness, but that's about it. Coating is weak, but I usually manage things, sometimes I even use this to my ("artistic") advantage. The real FL is believed to be around 61mm, that's another advantage to having this lens alongside standard 50mm primes, it does make a difference when needed. |
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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 821
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
Experiencing F2,4.
3D pop?
[img]L'hiver | Winter by lumens pixel, sur Flickr[/img] _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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Antoine
Joined: 08 Jan 2016 Posts: 298 Location: London
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Antoine wrote:
hmm avec le Mont Blanc behind from Le Bettex? _________________ Antoine
Sony A6000 APS-C and Sony A7 Rii
Minolta Fisheye MD Rokkor 7.5 mm f4, Fisheye MD 16 f2.8 MD R 17mm f4, MD R 20mm f2.8, MC VFC & MDIII 24mm f2.8, MD 28mm f2.0 &3.5, MD II 35mm 1.8, MD 45mm f2.0, MD 50mm f 1.2 & MD I f1.4, MC PG 58mm 1.2, MD 85mm f2.0, MD R 85mm f2.8 Varisoft, MC 85mm f1.7 MD R 100mm f2.5, MD R 100mm f4.0 macro, MD III 135mm f2.8, MD R 200mm f2.8 & 4.0, RF 250mm f5.6, MD 300mm f4.5, MD APO 400 mm f5.6, RF 500mm f8.0, RF 800mm f8.0 *2 300-s and 300-l
100 mm f4 macro bellows (5/4)
Vivitar 17mm f3.5, Elicar 300mm mirror f5.6, Zhongi turbo ii
Sigma 16mm f 2.8 fish eye
Zooms:24-50 mm f4, 35-70 mm f3.5 macro, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5, 50-135 f 3.5, 70-210 f4 and MD APO 100-500 mm f8 |
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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 821
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:05 am Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
Cordon. Au Bettex le Mont-Blanc est plus proche. _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 821
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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 11:58 am Post subject: The teapot |
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lumens pixel wrote:
Tea time. Same lens.
[img]La théière | The teapot by lumens pixel, sur Flickr[/img] _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 821
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
There was some oil/haze on the inner elements of this lens due to outgassing grease.
I managed to wipe that off hoping for some improvement of the already very high contrast, so the lens would shine in very low contrast situations.
[img]L'arche fumante | Smoking Arch by lumens pixel, sur Flickr[/img] _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2901 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
lumens pixel wrote: |
There was some oil/haze on the inner elements of this lens due to outgassing grease.
I managed to wipe that off hoping for some improvement of the already very high contrast, so the lens would shine in very low contrast situations.
[img]L'arche fumante | Smoking Arch by lumens pixel, sur Flickr[/img] |
Beautiful image! |
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RokkorDoctor
Joined: 27 Nov 2021 Posts: 1250 Location: Kent, UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:54 am Post subject: |
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RokkorDoctor wrote:
lumens pixel wrote: |
There was some oil/haze on the inner elements of this lens due to outgassing grease.
I managed to wipe that off hoping for some improvement of the already very high contrast, so the lens would shine in very low contrast situations.
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It appears you were successful
Magical image, works really well in black&white! _________________ Mark
SONY A7S, A7RII + dust-sealed modded Novoflex/Fotodiox/Rayqual MD-NEX adapters
Minolta SR-1, SRT-101/303, XD7/XD11, XGM, X700
Bronica SQAi
Ricoh GX100
Minolta majority of all Rokkor SR/AR/MC/MD models made
Sigma 14mm/3.5 for SR mount
Tamron SP 60B 300mm/2.8 (Adaptall)
Samyang T-S 24mm/3.5 (Nikon mount, DIY converted to SR mount)
Schneider-Kreuznach PC-Super-Angulon 28mm/2.8 (SR mount)
Bronica PS 35/40/50/65/80/110/135/150/180/200/250mm |
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lumens pixel
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
RokkorDoctor wrote: |
lumens pixel wrote: |
There was some oil/haze on the inner elements of this lens due to outgassing grease.
I managed to wipe that off hoping for some improvement of the already very high contrast, so the lens would shine in very low contrast situations.
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It appears you were successful
Magical image, works really well in black&white! |
Thank you. Much easier to play with contrast in black and white. _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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