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Mir-1 2.8/37 Grand Prix Brussels
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:36 pm    Post subject: Mir-1 2.8/37 Grand Prix Brussels Reply with quote

I finally got this lens (produced in 1969, still in alu barrel) and it lets me enchanted. Besides giving a gentle corners faloff w/o, it slightly mutes colours rendering the image not even in a vintage style but in a kind of slight noir aesthetics. Its colour scheme recalls me by far the unusual ISCO triplet rendering I reported here.

Here are some samples from Mir-1 taken at f2.8 to f5.6, with the contrasts corrected

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The images certainly look very pleasing!


PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks very contrasty in an old fashioned way


PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This lens is on my wish list. Thank you for the images! What is the minimum focus distance of the lens?


PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr_tibbs2004 wrote:
This lens is on my wish list. Thank you for the images! What is the minimum focus distance of the lens?


The minimum focus on mine is 0.7metres.
If your M42 adapter has a heicoid, it will focus closer - or you could use rings.
One of its strengths is its sharpness up close and pleasing bokeh for a wide lens.
Here are a couple to show that
Tom

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wanted this lens to be a wide angle companion to my Helioses, but after trying it I found out that its ergonomics are worse than Helios 44-2. It is smaller, focusing ring is smaller too and it was wobbling on original Pentax m42 adapter, same as 44-2. Too fiddly and uninspiring. Yes, minimum focusing distance is 0.7m in case there isn't any modification done to the lens. That is simply too much. At some mid distances it has certain glow around the subjects. After some shooting, I found Flektogon 35mm f2.4 to be a better lens in all parameters. Even Auto Revuenon 35mm f2.8 was better than Mir 37mm. In fact it was surprisingly good, sharp and focused close to the subject.


PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a pinch you can decrease the mfd of a m42 lens by screwing it out a bit. Most effective with wide angles of course. It won't do much for tele's.


PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indigo82 wrote:
I wanted this lens to be a wide angle companion to my Helioses, but after trying it I found out that its ergonomics are worse than Helios 44-2. It is smaller, focusing ring is smaller too and it was wobbling on original Pentax m42 adapter, same as 44-2. Too fiddly and uninspiring. Yes, minimum focusing distance is 0.7m in case there isn't any modification done to the lens. That is simply too much. At some mid distances it has certain glow around the subjects. After some shooting, I found Flektogon 35mm f2.4 to be a better lens in all parameters. Even Auto Revuenon 35mm f2.8 was better than Mir 37mm. In fact it was surprisingly good, sharp and focused close to the subject.


Technically Mir is closest to the first Flektogon F2.8 version, since it's based on it. The results are pretty similar, no doubt. I agree, it's not the best performer in terms of sharpness (speaking of across the frame sharpness, it's actually very sharp where it is in focus, but there's field curvature and the edges are visibly lagging behind even at F11 in my experience). Flare resistance is... Well, we shall rather call it flare acceptance. Still, for 200 eur you can buy a modern Tamron that is extremely above any Flektogon or any other vintage 35mm, not to mention on high res sensors. I like Mir's rendering in certain situations, and very much, it's a nice artistic tool when I want to convey a certain mood. It's also very nice for macro since mdf with M42 lenses is irrelevant. I use a helicoid with 30mm movement from infinity to close focus mounted on a thin "flange" M42 adapter, instead of a classic adapter. I also appreciate the small size of this lens, especially after taking Samyang 35mm F1.4 for a walk in comparison. We'll all agree that there's no perfect lens, especially in vintage category. That's why I prefer lenses with specific traits, which makes choice more exciting. For "classic" landscape I'd prefer Minolta MD 35mm F2.8. For some "moody" shots I'd prefer Mir. Still, in most situations I'd get a fine shot from either really.


PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, fellows, glad you like or wish this lens!

I confirm that the MFD of mine is 0.7m. It's flare prone without hood (and I learned that this is the condition should be mentioned as a real game changer). I haven't tried it with a hood yet.

Here is an example w/o (with contrast corrected)


And at f5.6


Looking at the flare spot, I presume my copy could benefit from internal cleaning, but I prefer not to open the lens without a real urge.

Agreed for a good central sharpness and "curved" corners. It may still work in complex landscapes even at f5.6 if you don't run for each pixel but need an impression.

I this shot taken at f5.6 both contrast and saturation are boosted


PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex ph wrote:
Thank you, fellows, glad you like or wish this lens!

I confirm that the MFD of mine is 0.7m. It's flare prone without hood (and I learned that this is the condition should be mentioned as a real game changer). I haven't tried it with a hood yet.

I this shot taken at f5.6 both contrast and saturation are boosted


Very good results for sure.
Mine is not as good as this in landscape shots.
Congratulations.
Here is one taken with a close up ring attached, where my copy seems to shine
Taken at f2.8
Tom

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can confirm that it works really nicely with a close up lens (I've used it with a +4 achromatic lens and some other strengths), and it also works well with extensions (I didn't really see any noticeable difference in sharpness between Mir 1 and Flektogon 35mm F2.4 for close ups). I always add a lens hood, but even then sometimes extra shading with a hand helps a lot; since I can't use longer hoods with this 37mm FL (which is, again, same as Flektogon, it is 37mm lens with a rounded number for marketing purposes). A couple "extra" aperture blades compared to most similar lenses can't hurt for macro (the only thing I really dislike about MC Flektogon is having 6 straight aperture blades).