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Spotmatic
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 Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:37 pm Post subject: Panagor 35mm 1:2 ??? |
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Spotmatic wrote:
I have just bought a Panagor 35mm 1:2 (M42 mount). I haven't really found a lot of information. If what's written elsewhere is correct, then this Panagor was made by Kino Precision (Kiron). Is that right?
Also, anyone tried this lens? Comments?
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ManualFocus-G
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Great find! Yes, it's a Kino made lens. Would love to see some samples!
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Spotmatic
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| Great find! Yes, it's a Kino made lens. Would love to see some samples! |
Thank you! Well, you know me so posting samples is pretty much a given...  Please be patient!
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Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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luisalegria
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Wasn't Panagor a Kino "house brand" ?
Only later did they use "Kiron".
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Spotmatic
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Indeed Luis. It's interesting that the 35mm does not seem to have survived under the Kiron name. We all know the 28mm 1:2 but the 35mm seems to have been replaced by it.
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My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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Scheimpflug
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Scheimpflug wrote:
The physical design looks very similair to the Panagor 28/2.5 that I had...
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Spotmatic
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:10 am Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
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| The physical design looks very similair to the Panagor 28/2.5 that I had... |
Yes, it's the typical Panagor design. My Panagor 55mm 1:3 macro and Panagor 135mm f/2.8 have the same design. BTW, the Panagor 28mm f/2.5 is easy to spot because of its unique design and it also is very common.
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Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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Spotmatic
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Spotmatic wrote:
So I have the lens in my hands now. I guess it's rare or at least uncommon as I would expect more owners on this forum. But apparently I'm the only one 
Well, I'm surprised. First about the mechanical quality: everything works super smooth and without drag or play. Focusing feel is definitely on a Takumar level. The diaphragm is clean and snappy, what else could I wish for?
Optically it seems very good too. Wide open there's plenty of sharpness in the focus plane. CA is not visible in my test shots. Big plus: no infinity issues on the Canon 5D with stock mirror. There's some vignetting wide open, but that was to be expected.
Samples will follow tomorrow, please be patient...
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Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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D1N0
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D1N0 wrote:
Time to correct the ongoing Panagor=Kino myth. There are a few Panagor Kino lenses 21/4 28/2.5 and a rare 28/2.0 (rare in Panagor and without the silver Panagor aperture ring). Most other prime lenses were made by Komine (I haven't really looked into the two mirror reflex lenses 300/5.6 and 500/8 so they might be from another manufacturer).
This is my Komine made (The Vivitar 35mm F1.9 is the same lens) 35mm 1:2
Very well made as Asahiflex already mentioned.
 Panagor Auto Wide-Angle 35mm 1:2 by The lens profile, on Flickr
Some samples:
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 Firkeh by The lens profile, on Flickr
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 Fencekeh by The lens profile, on Flickr
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 Leafkeh by The lens profile, on Flickr
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 Flowerkeh by The lens profile, on Flickr
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caspert79
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caspert79 wrote:
Last image is beautiful! |
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vivaldibow
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vivaldibow wrote:
Images look quite nice. I haven’t really tried my copy.
In my memory, the Panagor 28mm f2 is pretty small, not on the size of Kiron made 28/2, closer to Komine made 28/2 CF or 28/2.8. I couldn’t locate where I put the lens otherwise I could do a size comparison. |
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D1N0
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Images look quite nice. I haven’t really tried my copy.
In my memory, the Panagor 28mm f2 is pretty small, not on the size of Kiron made 28/2, closer to Komine made 28/2 CF or 28/2.8. I couldn’t locate where I put the lens otherwise I could do a size comparison. |
The lens is pretty hard to find online copied this from Etsy. Definitely the Kiron version (I have both Vivitars 28/2). This one is in MD
Not the typical Panagor style so I am not adding it to the Panagor collection. It probably is a later Panagor from the eighties (83 serial number, most Panagor serials seem to start with year production (some earlier ones don't))
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visualopsins wrote:
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| ...copied this from Etsy... |
Tsk, tsk.
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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