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yoshizumi
Joined: 15 Mar 2021 Posts: 18 Location: JAPAN
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:37 am Post subject: Meyer-Optik ? |
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yoshizumi wrote:
I found this photo. Has anyone ever released a product like this?
Please let me know because there is little information.
I found 2.8 / 35 and 1.8 / 38, but what kind of camera is the lens attached to?
Or is this a fake?
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2483
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:22 am Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
A mystery. Maybe someone can identify the mount? That 35 is a pancake lens so unlikely to be retrofocal. So maybe for a non slr camera? If it is fake someone sure went to a lot of trouble to make it. Notice the serial numbers are very close together. Maybe prototypes. Likely from the first half of the sixties. http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Meyer_serial_numbers#cite_note-2 _________________ pentaxian |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Now you got us puzzled. This is some very interesting find. Suggestion of prototype is in place. Pentina half frame for
Volkspolizei perhaps? _________________ ---------------------------------
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Dejan
Joined: 05 Jan 2021 Posts: 138 Location: Belgrade, Serbia
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Dejan wrote:
It's hard not to be curious about what they can do, if they cover a decently sized film/sensor. I guess that 38mm could show more "character", who knows, I've never seen these. |
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yoshizumi
Joined: 15 Mar 2021 Posts: 18 Location: JAPAN
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 10:13 am Post subject: |
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yoshizumi wrote:
D1N0 wrote: |
A mystery. Maybe someone can identify the mount? That 35 is a pancake lens so unlikely to be retrofocal. So maybe for a non slr camera? If it is fake someone sure went to a lot of trouble to make it. Notice the serial numbers are very close together. Maybe prototypes. Likely from the first half of the sixties. http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Meyer_serial_numbers#cite_note-2 |
3393047
3393094
The serial numbers are very close.
prototype. .. ..
Yes. It's likely.
Does Meyer have any other prototypes? You may know something by looking at the serial number. |
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yoshizumi
Joined: 15 Mar 2021 Posts: 18 Location: JAPAN
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 10:46 am Post subject: |
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yoshizumi wrote:
Pancolart wrote: |
Now you got us puzzled. This is some very interesting find. Suggestion of prototype is in place. Pentina half frame for
Volkspolizei perhaps? |
It seems that it can be used for full frame.
I don't know until I buy it, but the price is USD600.
If it's a fake, it's incredibly expensive.
I requested a slightly higher definition photo. But there were no more pictures. |
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yoshizumi
Joined: 15 Mar 2021 Posts: 18 Location: JAPAN
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 10:48 am Post subject: |
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yoshizumi wrote:
Dejan wrote: |
It's hard not to be curious about what they can do, if they cover a decently sized film/sensor. I guess that 38mm could show more "character", who knows, I've never seen these. |
I saw a Meyer prototype lens somewhere before. But I forgot. |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6943 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:50 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I doubt it's fake, but it's hard to get excited at that price
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Max78
Joined: 14 Oct 2011 Posts: 74
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Max78 wrote:
Hallo,
I think You have found very nice and rare lenses. I'm not 100% sure, but these lenses seem to be the Meyer prototypes for me. I can't identify the mount as well. But the names and serial numbers correspond to the prototype SN range of the Meyer. Take a look here and scroll down until section "3. Prototypen und Vorserienmodelle":
https://www.dresdner-kameras.de/objektive/musterobjektive_besonderheiten/musterobjektive_besonderheiten.html
Several Meyer prototypes are shown there with the serials in the range 3393XXX... |
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jamaeolus
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Maybe altix mount? _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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Gatorengineer64 wrote:
One of the favorite qutoes I recall from this forum is that the Domiplan was the worst thing to ever fall out of a dogs arse. A 35mm version of it presumed triplet would be brurtal. _________________ A7R4, GFX50R and a bucket of mflenses |
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jamaeolus
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:24 am Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
I had a plastic domiplan. It was a fake zebra look. Chrome on plastic. It was truly horrible. Soft at every aperture. I took it apart, ' just because', the "helical" was a plastic tube with a groove that a stud slid inside. After dismantling it got tossed. A sad end to a a fine optical company with a long list of fine lenses. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16497 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:29 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Prototype most likely, as it say "Inv.Nr 93808" on it (1st pic), "Inventarnummer" meaning it was an internally registered and used lens, possibly a "quality standard" for a seqence of lenses to come (which never made it I guess). Nice one, but at 600 quite a risk...
BUT the serial# of that lens is 93047 (2nd pic) - which quite differs the "Inventarnummer", and it should not - so it may be a FRANKEN-LENS, rear different than front - BE CAREFUL!! _________________ Klaus - Admin
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yoshizumi
Joined: 15 Mar 2021 Posts: 18 Location: JAPAN
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:30 am Post subject: |
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yoshizumi wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
I doubt it's fake, but it's hard to get excited at that price
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Seeing this too high price, I thought it was impossible.
It looks like the real thing once. |
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yoshizumi
Joined: 15 Mar 2021 Posts: 18 Location: JAPAN
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:36 am Post subject: |
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yoshizumi wrote:
jamaeolus wrote: |
I had a plastic domiplan. It was a fake zebra look. Chrome on plastic. It was truly horrible. Soft at every aperture. I took it apart, ' just because', the "helical" was a plastic tube with a groove that a stud slid inside. After dismantling it got tossed. A sad end to a a fine optical company with a long list of fine lenses. |
The cellar seems to be in Beijing, very far from me.
I don't think I have time to go on a business trip.
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yoshizumi
Joined: 15 Mar 2021 Posts: 18 Location: JAPAN
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:40 am Post subject: |
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yoshizumi wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
Prototype most likely, as it say "Inv.Nr 93808" on it (1st pic), "Inventarnummer" meaning it was an internally registered and used lens, possibly a "quality standard" for a seqence of lenses to come (which never made it I guess). Nice one, but at 600 quite a risk...
BUT the serial# of that lens is 93047 (2nd pic) - which quite differs the "Inventarnummer", and it should not - so it may be a FRANKEN-LENS, rear different than front - BE CAREFUL!! |
It's very interesting to see how many were manufactured and how many are on the market.
Prototype is an exciting word for me.
This price is too high for me. I think I can buy it for up to $ 300.
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