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jmkmva
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 Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:12 pm Post subject: SOLIGOR “P” ? What does the P designate. |
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jmkmva wrote:
Recently I saw a SOLIGOR P 200mm f2.8 lens listed by Hunts Audio and Video for sale. Hunt’s photo is shown.
This version predates a C/D version, which I believe has a different configuration. Does the red P have any meaning?
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vivaldibow
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| Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:51 pm Post subject: Re: SOLIGOR “P” ? What does the P designate. |
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vivaldibow wrote:
| jmkmva wrote: |
Recently I saw a SOLIGOR P 200mm f2.8 lens listed by Hunts Audio and Video for sale. Hunt’s photo is shown.
This version predates a C/D version, which I believe has a different configuration. Does the red P have any meaning?
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It is said it stands for "Professional". I think this lens is also the C/D version. There are two C/D versions of this lens. One is this one by Tokina and another is by Sun. |
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paolos
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| Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:44 am Post subject: |
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paolos wrote:
The red letter (P) designates the professional lens series. |
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visualopsins
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| Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:51 am Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
| paolos wrote: |
| The red letter (P) designates the professional lens series. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:49 am Post subject: Re: SOLIGOR “P” ? What does the P designate. |
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55 wrote:
| jmkmva wrote: |
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This version predates a C/D version, which I believe has a different configuration. |
My own Soligor 200 f/2.8 serial #17503274 has a red "P" on the front name ring and a white "C/D" on the aperture ring.
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| Does the red P have any meaning? |
As mentioned by vivaldibow and paolos, "Professional" sounds plausible. But I've never seen any Soligor literature which actually spells out what "P" stands for. The same for "C/D".
If anyone has Soligor literature which explicitly states what "P" and "C/D" stand for, it would be fun to see it. 
The best example I have is from the back page of a circa 1974 C/D lenses brochure:
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Alun Thomas
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| Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:13 am Post subject: Re: SOLIGOR “P” ? What does the P designate. |
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Alun Thomas wrote:
| vivaldibow wrote: |
| There are two C/D versions of this lens. One is this one by Tokina and another is by Sun. |
The Sun version didn't get the C/D label afaik, I believe it was part of the GS series, of which the 200/2.8 was maybe the most distinguished. The other lenses were slightly faster than standard: 28/2.5 300/4.5 and 400/5.6
I've also seen a 100 F2 which I'm not sure if it was part of the same series, and also can't recall if there was a 35mm sold as part of the series.
The Sun 200/2.8 can also be found labelled as a 'Sun Optical' |
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visualopsins wrote:
Computer Designed
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vivaldibow
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| Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:04 am Post subject: Re: SOLIGOR “P” ? What does the P designate. |
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vivaldibow wrote:
| Alun Thomas wrote: |
| vivaldibow wrote: |
| There are two C/D versions of this lens. One is this one by Tokina and another is by Sun. |
The Sun version didn't get the C/D label afaik, I believe it was part of the GS series, of which the 200/2.8 was maybe the most distinguished. The other lenses were slightly faster than standard: 28/2.5 300/4.5 and 400/5.6
I've also seen a 100 F2 which I'm not sure if it was part of the same series, and also can't recall if there was a 35mm sold as part of the series.
The Sun 200/2.8 can also be found labelled as a 'Sun Optical' |
Thanks. Sorry for my wrong memory. Only Tokina has C/D label. |
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jmkmva
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THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:43 am Post subject: Re: SOLIGOR “P” ? What does the P designate. |
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55 wrote:
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If anyone has Soligor literature which explicitly states what "P" and "C/D" stand for, it would be fun to see... |
Regarding "C/D", I found some information in a Soligor C/D lenses brochure - different from the page I shared earlier.
This may not be conclusive documentation for "Computer Designed", but it might be as close to definitive as we'll get.
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read this leaflet and you will understand why all marketeers should burn in hell :p
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