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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:40 pm Post subject: Manual Focus Lenses Forum Subgenre Folks: |
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Pancolart wrote:
I'd like to make a poll but don't know how, so:
1. Bokehlicious, Fast lenses, Wide open shooters
2. Sellers and dealers
3. Collectors and LBA sufferers (hoarders)
4. Lens testers, visual variant of audiophiles (edge sharpness)
5. Cheap lens is good lens, lens character is important
6. Elite society (expensive lens is good lens)
7. Artists (mistake isn't mistake, there is no bad photo if it is strange enough)
8. Lens theorists and smart-asses, aficionados
9. Niche people (micro, UV, ultra wide, super-tele), rare lenses
10. Ancient lenses
11. Commies (Warsaw pact is best)
12. Jealous folks from AF and smartphone world
13. Nostalgia
14: Tinkerer's Paradise
Some genre overlaps, some genre stand opposite and fight. Please add yours if not listed above. _________________ ---------------------------------
The Peculiar Apparatus Of Victorian Steampunk Photography: 100+ Genuine Steampunk Camera Designs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B92829NS
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10463 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Should be multiple choice adding "all of the above" as well...
Although this is akin to listing human qualities we all possess to some degree because we're all human... _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony A7Rii, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Lenses:
Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200
Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300
Macro-Takumar 1:4/50
Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm
Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element),
Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17
Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500
Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100
Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100
SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
Other lenses:
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7776 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
Put me down for for 1,2,3,5, and 10. I'm a cheapass who's never downloaded a lens chart. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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Ultrapix
Joined: 06 Jan 2012 Posts: 547 Location: Italy
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Ultrapix wrote:
13: dr jekyll and mr hyde: that is those people who use only modern lenses, but they like to remember those objects, often even poor ones, that they looked in shop windows or read about in magazines when they were young, and that today can be bought for a few coins. |
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Sciolist
Joined: 29 Mar 2017 Posts: 1445 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Sciolist wrote:
You've got to have nostalgia, surely. |
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KEO
Joined: 27 Sep 2018 Posts: 756 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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KEO wrote:
5 and 7 for me.
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55
Joined: 13 May 2013 Posts: 700 Location: U.S.
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:22 am Post subject: Re: Manual Focus Lenses Forum Subgenre Folks: |
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55 wrote:
3. Collectors and LBA sufferers (hoarders)
... Guilty, but unrepentant!
4. Lens testers, visual variant of audiophiles (edge sharpness)
... ?? What else is there to do with lenses?
5. Cheap lens is good lens, lens character is important
... Helios 44-2, Helios 44-2 |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2483
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:05 am Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
1,3,4(but not for edge sharpness :p),5,7 _________________ pentaxian |
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tomasg
Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 1135
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:46 am Post subject: |
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tomasg wrote:
1, 3, 5 and 7. |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3751 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: Manual Focus Lenses Forum Subgenre Folks: |
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stevemark wrote:
[quote="Pancolart"]I'd like to make a poll but don't know how, so:
Pancolart wrote: |
1. Bokehlicious, Fast lenses, Wide open shooters |
Sometimes. Usually with the Minolta AF 2/100, the AF 2.8/200, the AF 2.8/300 and the A900, in b/w mode.
Pancolart wrote: |
2. Sellers and dealers |
Reminds me to sell some surplus stuff I don't need
Pancolart wrote: |
3. Collectors and LBA sufferers (hoarders) |
What is LBA? I know GAS, but LBA ... ??
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4. Lens testers, visual variant of audiophiles (edge sharpness) |
Oh yeah
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5. Cheap lens is good lens, lens character is important |
Rarely.
Pancolart wrote: |
6. Elite society (expensive lens is good lens) |
Sometimes. Usually true for the mechanical part, though.
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7. Artists (mistake isn't mistake, there is no bad photo if it is strange enough) |
No.
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8. Lens theorists and smart-asses, aficionados |
I like reading the Nikkor Tales - does it count?
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9. Niche people (micro, UV, ultra wide, super-tele), rare lenses |
Does the TS-E 17mm L count? ... I use it quite often - has actually replaced my prevous standard lens, a 20mm superwide ...
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10. Ancient lenses |
Very few.
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11. Commies (Warsaw pact is best) |
Even less! Simply not available locally - I prefer to buy what I can find here ...
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12. Jealous folks from AF and smartphone world |
How dare U !!
Pancolart wrote: |
Some genre overlaps, some genre stand opposite and fight. Please add yours if not listed above. |
Love to rescue interesting stuff from the wastebins of local stores
Happy shooting
S _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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vivaldibow
Joined: 23 Jun 2018 Posts: 835
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:06 am Post subject: Re: Manual Focus Lenses Forum Subgenre Folks: |
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vivaldibow wrote:
Me: underdog lens is competitive enough. That's why I am still collecting vivitar / soligor, etc, and use them more than big brands. |
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Ernst Dinkla
Joined: 30 Nov 2016 Posts: 378
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Ernst Dinkla wrote:
13 Tinkerer's paradise: give a (digital) future to lenses with coupling mounts that are out of production. Or have no mount at all. _________________ Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst
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March 2017 update, 750+ inkjet media white spectral plots |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:35 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Ultrapix wrote: |
13: dr jekyll and mr hyde: that is those people who use only modern lenses, but they like to remember those objects, often even poor ones, that they looked in shop windows or read about in magazines when they were young, and that today can be bought for a few coins. |
Cool. So we got 13: Nostalgia and 14: Tinkerer's Paradise _________________ ---------------------------------
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Sciolist
Joined: 29 Mar 2017 Posts: 1445 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Sciolist wrote:
Ernst Dinkla wrote: |
... Tinkerer's paradise: ... |
Like . |
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connloyalist
Joined: 22 Jul 2020 Posts: 221 Location: the Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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connloyalist wrote:
I guess I would put myself in categories 3 and 13. Mostly I consider myself to be an explorer: I don't collect lenses in order to obtain one example of each. I buy lenses that I think I might find useful and lenses that are unusual, interesting, etc.
Regards, C. |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:01 pm Post subject: Re: Manual Focus Lenses Forum Subgenre Folks: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Pancolart wrote: |
I'd like to make a poll but don't know how, so:
1. Bokehlicious, Fast lenses, Wide open shooters *Yes*
2. Sellers and dealers
3. Collectors and LBA sufferers (hoarders) *Yes*
4. Lens testers, visual variant of audiophiles (edge sharpness)
5. Cheap lens is good lens, lens character is important *Yes to last half*
6. Elite society (expensive lens is good lens)
7. Artists (mistake isn't mistake, there is no bad photo if it is strange enough) * Artist Yes but still make mistakes that ruin shots *
8. Lens theorists and smart-asses, aficionados *Yes, I do like to compare lens design to lens behaviour *
9. Niche people (micro, UV, ultra wide, super-tele), rare lenses *Yes I do like Macro and wide lenses/shooting*
10. Ancient lenses
11. Commies (Warsaw pact is best)
12. Jealous folks from AF and smartphone world
13. Nostalgia *Yes*
14: Tinkerer's Paradise *Yes I do like to save a lens that was unusable *
Some genre overlaps, some genre stand opposite and fight. Please add yours if not listed above. |
Most automated polls are useless for complicated subjects unless you have multiple choice with ability to have 20 choices or have multiple simple polls, as you can see, most of my answers were modifie.
I like the history of lens design, how a breakthrough advanced the whole industry (Retro focus lenses) and then everyone used that breakthrough as a starting point for exploring other designs, or taking lessons learned from one design and applying it to a different design, we are definitely in the golden age of lens design, we now have access to lens designs that would have been amazing 50 years ago and magic 100 years ago.
I definitely like the experimental side of photography, using a lens in a different way than it was intended (enlarger and projector lenses as taking lenses), I definitely like saving an unusable lens and bringing it back to a fully functional lens either by clean and repair or transplanting and or modifying it.
I often think of the history of old lenses and what precious moments or events they helped capture, births, birthdays, weddings, graduations, Christmas mornings,etc... If a lens could have a soul, it brings me some joy in knowing I saved a lens from a dark destiny of the trash, that when I'm done with it someone will still be able to use it to capture their special moments. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
My lens list
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightshow-photography/ |
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Sciolist
Joined: 29 Mar 2017 Posts: 1445 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Sciolist wrote:
Well said, Lightshow . |
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Sciolist
Joined: 29 Mar 2017 Posts: 1445 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Sciolist wrote:
1. All backgrounds are ugly.
2. I couldn't eat a whole one.
3. Go on Monsieur, just one more wafer thin filter.
4. Are you sure that's in focus?
5. Has seven kids.
6. Debt collector.
7. Man, I've got to send this thing in for a service.
8. It's what?
9. Lives in very small room.
10. Punched hole in wall.
11. It's red or dead, baby.
12. But is it sharp?
13. Every day was summer I tell you, summer.
14: Any fool can waste. |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
The list doesn't contain the only category that counts: photographer, the rest is all just internet nonsense. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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