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Best cheap rendering old manual focus lens 100mm/2.8 ?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:44 am    Post subject: Best cheap rendering old manual focus lens 100mm/2.8 ? Reply with quote

Priority: canon fd( fdn), Minolta MD, Konica AR, C/y, etc.
Was Minolta 100/2.5 two versions, mc ii and md ii. Both are heavy. Although I liked the (mc) version better. There was a Konica 100/2. 8, very sharp and small. I tried to find Minolta 100/3.5 but quite expensive (almost not on sale) Want compactness and rendering ) Your suggestions, examples.

p/s Now there is laowa 105/2 rendering is very cool but very heavy.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried Canon FD,
pentacon,
Kaleinar,
Fujinon,
at this class.
plus
Steinheil Quinar 100/3,5 (rare)
click the brand above for samples
all excellent. I think all 100/2,8 are good. Pentacon is light as I recall.. It was years ago though. Steinheil is the most compact one.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the Canon nFD 100/2.8?


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got an old Soligor 100 / 2.8 preset lens with T2 mount, which will fit anything, and it's a surprisingly good little lens, I think it's a Tokina.

My favorite lens - but it's M42 - is the Sankor Serie E 105 / 2.5. If you could use M42 then it would be a good choice.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well since the Laowa seems to be an option and it s around 500 usd, i ll add the Nikkor 105/2.5 (around 300-350 usd) for rendering, both the early Sonnar construction and the later Gauss construction have their fans. It s a "legendary" Nikkor so it s easy to search for samples on the web.

Another nice option would be the Meyer optik Goerlitz Orestor 100/2.8, small, a lens that at first looks it s nothing special and yet the images look so "right" with it.

I have the Konica 100/2.8 nice lens but it doesn t stand out among the 100mm lenses i used, bit different optical scheme than usual, if that s what matters.

And let s not forget the MoG Trioplan of course, if you want a "special" rendering Smile


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is my album with the Super-Takumar 105mm 1:2.8
https://www.flickr.com/photos/randomdump/albums/72157679734642092

There is a not so expensive Nikon E 100mm 2.8 Very compact too.

The Pentax-M 100mm 2.8 is excellent:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/randomdump/albums/72157701117908422


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't like the Canon NFD at all. Too much lateral CAS, and a boring rendering. My reference for this focal is the EF 100/2 (wich surplisingly even improved very much once adapted to my EOS R), but speaking of manual focus lenses I am in love with the Meyer Orestor, probably not perfect, but small and with a rendering that I like very much.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meyer/Pentacon certainly. Still can be caught for 40 EUR with some luck.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nikon series E 100/2.8 is an excellent performing lens.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 for Nikon Series E 100mm f/2.8


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sankor 2.5/105, very cheap, sharp, lots of character.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Olympus, topcon should also be considered. Tokina 90mm 2.5 isn't exactly 100 but is a damn fine lens.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamaeolus wrote:
Olympus, topcon should also be considered. Tokina 90mm 2.5 isn't exactly 100 but is a damn fine lens.


But they're not cheap.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Best cheap rendering old manual focus lens 100mm/2.8 ? Reply with quote

sergun wrote:
Priority: canon fd( fdn), Minolta MD, Konica AR, C/y, etc.
Was Minolta 100/2.5 two versions, mc ii and md ii. Both are heavy. Although I liked the (mc) version better. T


I strongly recommend Minolta MD III 100 2,5. Small cheap, light and very good. Included telescopic hood.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe not so cheap SMC Pentax-M 100mm f/2.8


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheap and superb - Sigma AF macro 2.8/90. I have two, one for EOS that sadly can only be used on my EOS film bodies and one in Sony/Minolta A-mount I use on my Sony a850, no PP on these, just developed from RAW using RawTherapee:

#1


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are some 80 to 100mm F2.8 projection lens if you don't mind there is no aperture.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Best cheap rendering old manual focus lens 100mm/2.8 ? Reply with quote

lumens pixel wrote:
sergun wrote:
Priority: canon fd( fdn), Minolta MD, Konica AR, C/y, etc.
Was Minolta 100/2.5 two versions, mc ii and md ii. Both are heavy. Although I liked the (mc) version better. T


I strongly recommend Minolta MD III 100 2,5. Small cheap, light and very good. Included telescopic hood.


I heard it is slightly better than the MC version. This MD III version is hard to find and I bet not cheap either. Smile


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oly sell for about a hundred. I had not noticed how much the topcon had gone up over the last couple of years. The Tokina is a bit more but if you are patient can be had for around a hundred.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Sigma 90/2.8 macro FD is actually quite compact and very sharp. I made the mistake of selling mine years ago and the prices have skyrocketed (well, compared to what I paid...). But despite a very plasticky feeling, it is a very fine lens!


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tamron SP 90/2.5 (adaptall mount) looks good. It's not true 100mm, but the difference won't be big.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

linebrell wrote:
Tamron SP 90/2.5 (adaptall mount) looks good. It's not true 100mm, but the difference won't be big.


Had both versions. I preferred the first version http://adaptall-2.com/lenses/52B.html, all metal, same optics and coatings as 52BB which is a tiny bit longer, has plastic window cover distance scale.

The dedicated 1:1 tube is high price. Existing extension tubes should provide 1:1 magnification. The 2X TC can be used to narrow fov and lose 2 stops. Existing 7-element TC probably better. Sometimes Macro-Focusing 2X TC are pretty good too. Mine is Ricoh.


PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NFD 100/2. 8-few frames and those few reviews speak of a boring character. nfd 100/2.0 - dark horse (expensive)
Fujinon 100/2.8-sorry but I no longer have an adapter for Sony. (also M42, T2)
Maery-too specific character.
Nikkor 105/2.5-many laudatory reviews. 100/2.8-looks similar to the NFD, a lot of images in the network (there is an adapter)
Minolta MD III 100 2.5-has become quite expensive, hard to find.
Pentax M (A) 100/2.8, Olympus 100/2.8, Topcor 100/2.8 - I didn't really find anything. (there are adapters)
Macro lenses are not interested.
All thanks. I'll choose one of these.

p/s And at all if would Sigma released would that the type compact 90/100mm F2.8 (FE) with character 45/2.8 (FE) the this was would very an interesting option )


PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn’t discount the Konica Hexanon, impressed with my copy, very sharp and build quality is superb. You can add as much character as you desire in Lightroom and it’s still relatively cheap compared to others listed.


PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Character is 1000x more to do with the photographer than the lens. Just get a good lens then learn how to use it well.