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sergun
Joined: 01 Jun 2017 Posts: 280 Location: наша раша
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:44 am Post subject: Best cheap rendering old manual focus lens 100mm/2.8 ? |
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sergun wrote:
Priority: canon fd( fdn), Minolta MD, Konica AR, C/y, etc.
Was Minolta 100/2.5 two versions, mc ii and md ii. Both are heavy. Although I liked the (mc) version better. There was a Konica 100/2. 8, very sharp and small. I tried to find Minolta 100/3.5 but quite expensive (almost not on sale) Want compactness and rendering ) Your suggestions, examples.
p/s Now there is laowa 105/2 rendering is very cool but very heavy. _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/105161078@N06/
https://fotoload.ru/fotosets/6661/ |
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:55 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
I tried Canon FD,
pentacon,
Kaleinar,
Fujinon,
at this class.
plus
Steinheil Quinar 100/3,5 (rare)
click the brand above for samples
all excellent. I think all 100/2,8 are good. Pentacon is light as I recall.. It was years ago though. Steinheil is the most compact one. _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
and My gallery
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ylyad
Joined: 01 Jun 2010 Posts: 476 Location: Zentralschweiz
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:58 am Post subject: |
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ylyad wrote:
What about the Canon nFD 100/2.8? _________________
Camera: Fuji X-E2, Fuji X100T
MF: Canon nFD 50/1.4, Canon nFD 100/2.8, Tokina RMC 135/2.8
Tamron SP 24-48/3.5-3.8
http://www.flickr.com/derdide/
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7776 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I've got an old Soligor 100 / 2.8 preset lens with T2 mount, which will fit anything, and it's a surprisingly good little lens, I think it's a Tokina.
My favorite lens - but it's M42 - is the Sankor Serie E 105 / 2.5. If you could use M42 then it would be a good choice. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
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tomasg
Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 1135
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:16 am Post subject: |
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tomasg wrote:
Well since the Laowa seems to be an option and it s around 500 usd, i ll add the Nikkor 105/2.5 (around 300-350 usd) for rendering, both the early Sonnar construction and the later Gauss construction have their fans. It s a "legendary" Nikkor so it s easy to search for samples on the web.
Another nice option would be the Meyer optik Goerlitz Orestor 100/2.8, small, a lens that at first looks it s nothing special and yet the images look so "right" with it.
I have the Konica 100/2.8 nice lens but it doesn t stand out among the 100mm lenses i used, bit different optical scheme than usual, if that s what matters.
And let s not forget the MoG Trioplan of course, if you want a "special" rendering
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2483
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:24 am Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
Here is my album with the Super-Takumar 105mm 1:2.8
https://www.flickr.com/photos/randomdump/albums/72157679734642092
There is a not so expensive Nikon E 100mm 2.8 Very compact too.
The Pentax-M 100mm 2.8 is excellent:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/randomdump/albums/72157701117908422 _________________ pentaxian |
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Ultrapix
Joined: 06 Jan 2012 Posts: 547 Location: Italy
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Ultrapix wrote:
I didn't like the Canon NFD at all. Too much lateral CAS, and a boring rendering. My reference for this focal is the EF 100/2 (wich surplisingly even improved very much once adapted to my EOS R), but speaking of manual focus lenses I am in love with the Meyer Orestor, probably not perfect, but small and with a rendering that I like very much. |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:37 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Meyer/Pentacon certainly. Still can be caught for 40 EUR with some luck. _________________ ---------------------------------
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2901 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:50 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Nikon series E 100/2.8 is an excellent performing lens. |
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Alex TG
Joined: 13 Oct 2019 Posts: 221 Location: Ukraine
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Alex TG wrote:
+1 for Nikon Series E 100mm f/2.8 |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Sankor 2.5/105, very cheap, sharp, lots of character. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2913 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Olympus, topcon should also be considered. Tokina 90mm 2.5 isn't exactly 100 but is a damn fine lens. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2901 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
jamaeolus wrote: |
Olympus, topcon should also be considered. Tokina 90mm 2.5 isn't exactly 100 but is a damn fine lens. |
But they're not cheap. |
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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 821
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:41 pm Post subject: Re: Best cheap rendering old manual focus lens 100mm/2.8 ? |
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lumens pixel wrote:
sergun wrote: |
Priority: canon fd( fdn), Minolta MD, Konica AR, C/y, etc.
Was Minolta 100/2.5 two versions, mc ii and md ii. Both are heavy. Although I liked the (mc) version better. T |
I strongly recommend Minolta MD III 100 2,5. Small cheap, light and very good. Included telescopic hood. _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10463 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Maybe not so cheap SMC Pentax-M 100mm f/2.8 _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony A7Rii, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Lenses:
Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200
Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300
Macro-Takumar 1:4/50
Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm
Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element),
Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17
Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500
Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100
Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100
SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
Other lenses:
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Cheap and superb - Sigma AF macro 2.8/90. I have two, one for EOS that sadly can only be used on my EOS film bodies and one in Sony/Minolta A-mount I use on my Sony a850, no PP on these, just developed from RAW using RawTherapee:
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_________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
There are some 80 to 100mm F2.8 projection lens if you don't mind there is no aperture. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
The best lens is the one you have with you. |
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vivaldibow
Joined: 23 Jun 2018 Posts: 835
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: Best cheap rendering old manual focus lens 100mm/2.8 ? |
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vivaldibow wrote:
lumens pixel wrote: |
sergun wrote: |
Priority: canon fd( fdn), Minolta MD, Konica AR, C/y, etc.
Was Minolta 100/2.5 two versions, mc ii and md ii. Both are heavy. Although I liked the (mc) version better. T |
I strongly recommend Minolta MD III 100 2,5. Small cheap, light and very good. Included telescopic hood. |
I heard it is slightly better than the MC version. This MD III version is hard to find and I bet not cheap either. |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2913 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Oly sell for about a hundred. I had not noticed how much the topcon had gone up over the last couple of years. The Tokina is a bit more but if you are patient can be had for around a hundred. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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ylyad
Joined: 01 Jun 2010 Posts: 476 Location: Zentralschweiz
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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ylyad wrote:
The Sigma 90/2.8 macro FD is actually quite compact and very sharp. I made the mistake of selling mine years ago and the prices have skyrocketed (well, compared to what I paid...). But despite a very plasticky feeling, it is a very fine lens! _________________
Camera: Fuji X-E2, Fuji X100T
MF: Canon nFD 50/1.4, Canon nFD 100/2.8, Tokina RMC 135/2.8
Tamron SP 24-48/3.5-3.8
http://www.flickr.com/derdide/
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linebrell
Joined: 10 Apr 2019 Posts: 234 Location: Russia
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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linebrell wrote:
Tamron SP 90/2.5 (adaptall mount) looks good. It's not true 100mm, but the difference won't be big. |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10463 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
linebrell wrote: |
Tamron SP 90/2.5 (adaptall mount) looks good. It's not true 100mm, but the difference won't be big. |
Had both versions. I preferred the first version http://adaptall-2.com/lenses/52B.html, all metal, same optics and coatings as 52BB which is a tiny bit longer, has plastic window cover distance scale.
The dedicated 1:1 tube is high price. Existing extension tubes should provide 1:1 magnification. The 2X TC can be used to narrow fov and lose 2 stops. Existing 7-element TC probably better. Sometimes Macro-Focusing 2X TC are pretty good too. Mine is Ricoh. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony A7Rii, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Lenses:
Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200
Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300
Macro-Takumar 1:4/50
Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm
Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element),
Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17
Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500
Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100
Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100
SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
Other lenses:
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto
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sergun
Joined: 01 Jun 2017 Posts: 280 Location: наша раша
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:39 am Post subject: |
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sergun wrote:
NFD 100/2. 8-few frames and those few reviews speak of a boring character. nfd 100/2.0 - dark horse (expensive)
Fujinon 100/2.8-sorry but I no longer have an adapter for Sony. (also M42, T2)
Maery-too specific character.
Nikkor 105/2.5-many laudatory reviews. 100/2.8-looks similar to the NFD, a lot of images in the network (there is an adapter)
Minolta MD III 100 2.5-has become quite expensive, hard to find.
Pentax M (A) 100/2.8, Olympus 100/2.8, Topcor 100/2.8 - I didn't really find anything. (there are adapters)
Macro lenses are not interested.
All thanks. I'll choose one of these.
p/s And at all if would Sigma released would that the type compact 90/100mm F2.8 (FE) with character 45/2.8 (FE) the this was would very an interesting option ) _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/105161078@N06/
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noddywithoutbigears
Joined: 13 Jan 2010 Posts: 215 Location: Leek, Staffordshire
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:03 am Post subject: |
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noddywithoutbigears wrote:
I wouldn’t discount the Konica Hexanon, impressed with my copy, very sharp and build quality is superb. You can add as much character as you desire in Lightroom and it’s still relatively cheap compared to others listed. _________________ Sony A7
Super Takumar 55mm F18, Helios 44-2 58mm f2, Super Takumar 85mm f1.9, Pentacon 50mm f1.8, Zenitar 16mm f2.8 Fisheye, Carl Zeiss Vario Prakticar 35-70mm f2.7-3.5. Carl Zeiss Prakticar 35mm f2.4 |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:15 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Character is 1000x more to do with the photographer than the lens. Just get a good lens then learn how to use it well. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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