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Smoli4
Joined: 01 Jul 2011 Posts: 606 Location: Haifa, Israel
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:38 am Post subject: Nikon 100x-c Comparator lens tested on canon 6D |
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Smoli4 wrote:
with bellows and macro rail this is what we achieve
10s timer, and corrected for exposure.. @ISO 640 to make the shutter a little faster...
#1 ground black pepper - full frame
#2 moth wing scales
#3 moth wing scales different area
#4 moth wing scales different area
#5
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:48 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Looks like a very capable lens.
You can try Helicon Focus or Zerene Stacker for focus stacking to get more depth of field. Photoshop will do it too, but it's a little more complex. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Ray Parkhurst
Joined: 04 Jul 2011 Posts: 497 Location: Santa Clara, CA, USA
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Ray Parkhurst wrote:
Does your camera have EFSC/EFCS? I'm seeing blurring that may be due to shutter shake. What mode are you using?
The lens seems to have some CA but it's hard to tell with the subject/lighting as it could just be natural colorations.
Do you have any way to determine magnification, like maybe a ruler with fine graduations, or better yet a microscope calibrator?
I've often thought of buying one of these lenses but they seem difficult to integrate into a photomacrography system. Nice to see some results from the 100x. There are a range of lenses for different mags. _________________ ...See my Numismatic Photography website at: http://www.macrocoins.com
...Primary Studio Cameras: Sony A7Rm4 and Canon HRT2i
...Go-To studio lenses: Nikon 95mm and 105mm Printing-Nikkors; Schneider 85mm Macro-Varon; Nikon 5x, 10x, and 20x Measuring Microscope Objectives; Mitutoyo BD Plan Apo 50x Microscope Objective
...My Go-To Walkaround Lenses: Laowa 60mm Super Macro; Nikon 28-105D (in manual mode for macro); |
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Smoli4
Joined: 01 Jul 2011 Posts: 606 Location: Haifa, Israel
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Smoli4 wrote:
Ray Parkhurst wrote: |
Does your camera have EFSC/EFCS? I'm seeing blurring that may be due to shutter shake. What mode are you using?
The lens seems to have some CA but it's hard to tell with the subject/lighting as it could just be natural colorations.
Do you have any way to determine magnification, like maybe a ruler with fine graduations, or better yet a microscope calibrator?
I've often thought of buying one of these lenses but they seem difficult to integrate into a photomacrography system. Nice to see some results from the 100x. There are a range of lenses for different mags. |
What is EFSC? what do you mean?
It does show some light green/magenta on the OOF areas.
here is a full frame shot of a good quality calipers
you can see the edges are not filled by this lens, ever so slightly.
1 millimetre (shot with bellows half extended.)
#1 magnification should be about 36:1
my setup
#1 lens is centered and sitting flush inside the mount. ive covered all possible cracks for light to enter with sticky Alum
#2 this screw fixes it firmly in place. the bellows are USSR made model with removable m42 mount on front and rear
#3
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Ray Parkhurst
Joined: 04 Jul 2011 Posts: 497 Location: Santa Clara, CA, USA
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Ray Parkhurst wrote:
EFSC is "Electronic First Shutter Curtain". In normal operation the exposure sequence is:
Press Shutter Release
Mirror lifts
Shutter opens
Exposure
Shutter closes
Mirror drops
This sequence is quite bad for image sharpness due to the vibration caused primarily by the mirror ("mirror slap") and secondarily by the shutter ("shutter shake"). Using Mirror Up or similar can eliminate mirror slap but shutter shake is still a big problem, especially in macro magnifications.
Many cameras (most recent Nikons and Canons, for example) have Live View, which is effectively mirror up. Most Nikon cameras when in Live View have the following exposure sequence:
Press Shutter Release
Shutter closes
Shutter opens
Exposure
Shutter closes
Mirror drops
Mirror lifts
Shutter opens
This sequence eliminates mirror slap, but closing then opening the shutter right before exposure causes some vibration that can blur your pictures. Canon cameras have a slightly different exposure sequence when in Live View:
Press Shutter Release
Sensor sites are electronically emptied
Exposure
Shutter closes
Mirror drops
Mirror lifts
Shutter opens
The electronic quenching of the sensor sites allows these cameras to have no mechanical mirror or shutter activity just prior or during exposure, so the resulting images won't be subject to the vibration these actions cause.
Your 6D may automatically activate EFSC when in Live View similar to a Rebel model, or you may need to select that mode manually. It may be called "quiet" mode or similar, or perhaps it is more explicit, I don't know. Your ~30x image looks pretty good so it may be that EFSC is active. If not, then it could be even better.
Are you using flash or continuous lighting? _________________ ...See my Numismatic Photography website at: http://www.macrocoins.com
...Primary Studio Cameras: Sony A7Rm4 and Canon HRT2i
...Go-To studio lenses: Nikon 95mm and 105mm Printing-Nikkors; Schneider 85mm Macro-Varon; Nikon 5x, 10x, and 20x Measuring Microscope Objectives; Mitutoyo BD Plan Apo 50x Microscope Objective
...My Go-To Walkaround Lenses: Laowa 60mm Super Macro; Nikon 28-105D (in manual mode for macro); |
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Smoli4
Joined: 01 Jul 2011 Posts: 606 Location: Haifa, Israel
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Smoli4 wrote:
thank you got it I will check.
and yes im using continues light _________________ Canon 6D + Mir 24, SMC Tak 50 f1.4, 135 f2.5 V2, Tamron SP 90mm f2.5 52B, mcMTO 500 8, Canon IS USM 75-300 4.5-5.6, zeiss ikon talon 85 f2.8 |
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