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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2926 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:37 am Post subject: Olympus exit. |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Wow! An icon of photography out of the photographey market after these many years of excellence. Strange times. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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Slalom
Joined: 10 Dec 2017 Posts: 151 Location: Stourbridge
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Slalom wrote:
They are packaging the division to sell it off. We can only wait and see how this pans out. |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2491
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:56 am Post subject: |
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Do not bury the grandfather before he is dead could be a proverb :p _________________ pentaxian |
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Sciolist
Joined: 29 Mar 2017 Posts: 1445 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:01 am Post subject: |
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Sciolist wrote:
Their foray into photography saw great success, but also a great loss of face when the scandals of the 2010s came along. I think they lost the appetite to fight for their position in the market after that, instead turning to what they deemed as their real, and untainted business - scientific and medical.
I've anthropomorphised a business here, describing a company like a person who had their fingers burnt and wanted to forget about it, but it makes more sense to me than the likely accounting/wrong turn/mistake reasons that will be put out.
It will be interesting to see what happens in the transfer of the photography business to Japan Industrial Partners. I have no idea who they are - hedge funded asset strippers or an outfit with a record of turning things around. Perhaps a bit of both. |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:06 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Corruption and bad decisions killed them.
Four thirds was an expensive failure that didn't last long.
Micro Four Thirds nearly died due to APS-C competition like the NEX, survived due to popularity with videographers, but Olympus didn't cater for that market very well, Lumix M43 cameras being much better at video.
They were far too late with a semi-pro M43 camera (OM-D E-M5) which, while very good, still didn't have video capabilities to rival cheaper Lumix models.
The Pen models just didn't sell well in recent years because smartphone cameras improved so fast.
It's a shame, but they only have themselves to blame.
I was more disappointed when Samsung cancelled their NX series just as it was producing some really good cameras with cutting edge sensors and class leading video capabilities. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10524 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:15 am Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
R.I.P.
OM................. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:29 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I won't be parting with my small collection of OM Zuikos, never had one that didn't impress me. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2917 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:31 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
That is very sad. I always thought that m4/3 was a very nice balance between size and image quality. I finally bought a ff camera, but only because I wanted to optimally use old lenses. |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I love my OM-D E-M5, hopefully the Olympus brand will live on and not become a name they stick on cheap crap, as happened with other once great brands. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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piggsy
Joined: 04 May 2015 Posts: 84 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:25 am Post subject: |
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piggsy wrote:
One of the main reasons I went for them as a format in buying a "proper camera" was that it wasn't just one company in the format, so other than some very minor things do to with sensor stack sizes and UV transmission to the sensor and making sync-IS work, pretty much everyone in the format has a fallback to similarly neat cameras like the G9/GH5.
It'd be interesting to see one of the newer players take it over (say, Yi having it for a brand name) but there's so many ways this could go - could find itself anything from debt loaded and stripped, to the same people doing a reverse takeover of a technically more successful company that 'buys' it. _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/piggsyface/
You can't fax glitter. |
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5028 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:13 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
I love my OM-D E-M5, hopefully the Olympus brand will live on and not become a name they stick on cheap crap, as happened with other once great brands. |
https://www.praktica.com/collections/cameras _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
AF: Canon, Tokina, Sigma Video: JVC GZ-MG275E |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16539 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:46 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
JPI will buy it which is backed by the Jap. Government to protect japanese assets. They have already anounced to continue
teh OLYMPUS brand but have to restructure etc. I doubt that will result ins serious impacts regarding the products... _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7785 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:00 am Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
I won't be parting with my small collection of OM Zuikos, never had one that didn't impress me. |
Same here, the more I use them the better they get. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
I hope they can turn the ship around and produce some cameras that I would be interested in. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
My lens list
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightshow-photography/ |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:31 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Lloydy wrote: |
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
I won't be parting with my small collection of OM Zuikos, never had one that didn't impress me. |
Same here, the more I use them the better they get. |
I thought I only had a few, but in the last couple of days I have discovered I have more like a dozen of them. Standouts include the 3.6/35-70, 3.5/28, 2.8/35, 2.8/100 and 2.8/135, all are, I dare say it, very near as damnit as good as Zeiss T* and the equals of any Rokkor, Nikkor or Hexanon. The modern Zuiko Digitals I have are really fine lenses too and I only have the entry level stuff, but they lack nothing in sharpness and contrast.
Perhaps the very best Zuiko I possess is the tiny 1.8/38 for the Pen F, a truly stunning little thing. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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lattesweden
Joined: 05 Sep 2017 Posts: 14
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:30 pm Post subject: Re: Olympus exit. |
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lattesweden wrote:
jamaeolus wrote: |
Wow! An icon of photography out of the photographey market after these many years of excellence. Strange times. |
Going by how JIP operated the Vaio takeover they don't get to use the Sony name, only the Vaio so most likely the Olympus brand will not be used since Olympus continues to make other stuff and exist as a company and most likely don't want their name be used out of their control, so I guess only OM-D and PEN etc will be used by JIP.
Also by how it looks from Vaio it is going to be Chinese developed cameras and lenses in the low end of the market.
I wonder what Panasonic will do now with m4/3 and how they can or can't control the m4/3 group. They formed it together with Olympus originally but it has always been Olympus doing the administration of who gets a m4/3 license and some claim Olympus also is the owner of the mount.
Here some more info about JIP is and how they operate:
https://photorumors.com/2020/06/25/olympus-exit-sell-camera-business-the-day-after/ |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6008 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Lloydy wrote: |
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
I won't be parting with my small collection of OM Zuikos, never had one that didn't impress me. |
Same here, the more I use them the better they get. |
I thought I only had a few, but in the last couple of days I have discovered I have more like a dozen of them. Standouts include the 3.6/35-70, 3.5/28, 2.8/35, 2.8/100 and 2.8/135, all are, I dare say it, very near as damnit as good as Zeiss T* and the equals of any Rokkor, Nikkor or Hexanon. The modern Zuiko Digitals I have are really fine lenses too and I only have the entry level stuff, but they lack nothing in sharpness and contrast.
Perhaps the very best Zuiko I possess is the tiny 1.8/38 for the Pen F, a truly stunning little thing. |
Yes, I agree.
My favourite Zuiko by a long way
Tom |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2926 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
The Pen F lenses are fantastic and when mounted on a NEX camera look like they were made for it. I have a collection of the Pen F but no NEX at the moment. I look to rectify that in the near future. Maybe a 6000 or something. When I gifted the NEX 5N to a friend he asked if I had a lens that would work. I briefly thought about putting a Pen F 38 1.8 on it but decided to go with the Minolta Rokkor 35mm 2.8 instead. I have been an Olympus fan since my very first SLR an OM1 I bought from a college buddy in 1977 for 250 dollars. I still have it. It still works. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6008 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
The Zuiko 1.8/38 is a great match for smaller mirrorless cameras.
If I'm travelling light it is an easy companion.
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e6filmuser
Joined: 12 Nov 2010 Posts: 555 Location: Reading UK
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:09 am Post subject: |
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e6filmuser wrote:
I got into Olympus in the mid 1980s, with a new ON2n. It was the TTL OTF flash which grabbed me. It was not very many years later that they said they were getting out of photography and concentrating on microscopes.
They then re-emerged with the OM4 and an OM5 was in sight. Then they faded again.
I was a bit surprised that they got going again with m4/3 but I have found it very good. My EM-1 does very well, including with my go-to 4/3 50mm f2 macro and x2 TC for macro and close-ups. I use a lot of adapted legacy lenses with it too and the Laowa 25,,, x2.5-x5 macro. The RC TTL flash is excellent and includes the only 45 degree tilting unit available for high mag macro.
I was hoping that thy would eventually produce a FF but I was right to invest in Sony alpha A7r (1 &n 3) for that. _________________ Dedicated to using manual focus lenses with digital. Equiped for photography from macro to panoramic & from ultra-wide to extreme telephoto. Mostly shooting outdoor macro. Experienced entomological taxonomist. Some knowledge of mushrooms. |
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Alex TG
Joined: 13 Oct 2019 Posts: 221 Location: Ukraine
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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Alex TG wrote:
Today's FB post from Olympus:
https://www.facebook.com/OlympusOMD.Official/posts/3248167105250000
Dear valued customers
We sincerely apologize for causing you worry during this eventful moment in Olympus history.
At the same time, we would like to take this opportunity to thank the many customers for their warm wishes and encouragement for the future of Olympus cameras. We have received many heartfelt messages from Olympus users telling us how they are looking forward to our new products.
This is not the end- this is a new beginning.
Olympus has long believed that no matter your photographic desire, it's pointless if you can't easily carry your camera with you.
Our understanding of the value of small and lightweight camera systems and the pursuit for advancement of them has been passed down through generations of Olympus products. Indeed, this spirit is engraved in our DNA.
"Compact and lightweight", "Powerful image stabilization", and "Optical performance"- these things will continue to be reflected in our new products into the future.
We are preparing for a new journey- one we want to make with you.
Here is our new lens roadmap.
We thank you for your continued support.
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papasito
Joined: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 1658
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
jamaeolus wrote: |
The Pen F lenses are fantastic and when mounted on a NEX camera look like they were made for it. I have a collection of the Pen F but no NEX at the moment. I look to rectify that in the near future. Maybe a 6000 or something. When I gifted the NEX 5N to a friend he asked if I had a lens that would work. I briefly thought about putting a Pen F 38 1.8 on it but decided to go with the Minolta Rokkor 35mm 2.8 instead. I have been an Olympus fan since my very first SLR an OM1 I bought from a college buddy in 1977 for 250 dollars. I still have it. It still works. |
My OM1 too. Great friend of mine. |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16539 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:25 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
I have already expected a continuation - why in the world would some investor buy it just to shut it down?? _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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aidaho
Joined: 29 Apr 2018 Posts: 456 Location: Ukraine
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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aidaho wrote:
Olympus Imaging Corp wrote: |
Olympus has long believed that no matter your photographic desire, it's pointless if you can't easily carry your camera with you.
Our understanding of the value of small and lightweight camera systems and the pursuit for advancement of them has been passed down through generations of Olympus products. Indeed, this spirit is engraved in our DNA. |
Let's do a little reality check here:
https://cameradecision.com/compare/Sony-Alpha-A7c-vs-Olympus-OM-D-E-M1-Mark-III
Not lighter than FF.
Not smaller than FF.
Not exactly cheaper than FF either.
While I fully agree with Oly on their opening statement, their bodies do not reflect their claimed beliefs.
Yea, they do have some cool slow compact zooms, especially tele if you are into that, but overall that's about it.
Their original DNA of compact 35mm systems can't be resolved in the current lineup even with the longest sharpest zoom. _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/curry-hexagon/ |
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