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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 834
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:23 pm Post subject: Minolta MDIII 2,8/35mm |
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lumens pixel wrote:
Killer lens. Really sharp even in no contrast situations. See for yourself.
[img]La Défense dans le brouillard | Paris La Défense fog and mist by lumens pixel, sur Flickr[/img] _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2925 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Agreed. Very good performer. |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7785 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
My MD prime's jump from 28 to 45. I can see that 35 joining them. I do like the wide Minolta's, I think they might be some of the sharpest from the major manufacturers.
That's a terrific picture, a great lens in good hands. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3437 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
Nice picture! |
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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 834
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:26 am Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
Lloydy wrote: |
My MD prime's jump from 28 to 45. I can see that 35 joining them. I do like the wide Minolta's, I think they might be some of the sharpest from the major manufacturers.
That's a terrific picture, a great lens in good hands. |
Thank you all for the kind words.
28 / 45 / 100 is a nice setup. If you get the 35 you will experiment with 35 / 50 / 100 or 35 / 58 / 135. If you do not start at 28 you can also add a 24 at the low end in that case and I would recommend Sigma Super Wide or Tamron. _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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kiddo
Joined: 29 Jun 2018 Posts: 1121
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:43 am Post subject: |
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kiddo wrote:
Very nice result, but I think ,it has to do with the photographer more than the lens.
How would you compare this 35mm with the MDIII 35-70 zoom ? Thanks |
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lumens pixel
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
kiddo wrote: |
Very nice result, but I think ,it has to do with the photographer more than the lens.
How would you compare this 35mm with the MDIII 35-70 zoom ? Thanks |
Kiddo thank you for your comment.
The photographer did not do much when catching the pic that is quite an ordinary perspective of a well known location.
However I decided to take the gear despite terrible weather and that was the good decision.
The difference is made with good use of a processing software.
Do not think about jpeg for this kind of shot.
I have good memories of my lab days printing in black and white after film processing and that gave me an appreciation of tones I still use today for digital.
But I could not capture or make good use of details that have not been captured by the lens.
So the lens has to do a lot here, used at optimal aperture (f5,6) to maximize contrast in a dull grey day.
The zoom (mkIII macro version) is a very good performer and would have produced quite a similar image.
It would have been very slightly weaker in the corners (not discussing F3,5 performance here) and generated more barrel distortion, easily corrected.
However I have not tried a side by side comparison and there might be more to say.
Note that any weaknesses of the zoom quite disappear if you step to the 40mm focal length (that I like very much) and you are there very very close to a prime result.
I very much like the zoom but tend to favor primes, not much because of inferior quality, but because of weight.
Most of the time I go for a one lens stroll and do not miss much the rest of my gear, just trying to do the best with what I have in my hands.
Cheers. _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D)
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Doc Sharptail
Joined: 23 Nov 2020 Posts: 992 Location: Winnipeg Canada
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Doc Sharptail wrote:
I go through the same thing with lenses- up to the point of where I quit buying zooms.
I really don't have anything against zooms, and have even taken a few "print worthy" frames with them.
The problem is they fill up the bag rapidly, and yes, they tend to weigh a bit.
I find myself with a bag full of primes from 28-200 f/l, and that's how I do it these days.
Perhaps I would feel slightly different with a smallish twin-ring zoom...
but I'm still not real sure on this yet.
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35mm f2 O.C. nikkor
50 f2 H nikkor, 50 f 1.4 AI-s, 135 f3.5 Q,
50 f2 K nikkor 2x, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 35-105 3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 200mm f4 Micro A/I, partial list.
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2925 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
lumens pixel wrote: |
kiddo wrote: |
Very nice result, but I think ,it has to do with the photographer more than the lens.
How would you compare this 35mm with the MDIII 35-70 zoom ? Thanks |
Kiddo thank you for your comment.
The photographer did not do much when catching the pic that is quite an ordinary perspective of a well known location.
However I decided to take the gear despite terrible weather and that was the good decision.
The difference is made with good use of a processing software.
Do not think about jpeg for this kind of shot.
I have good memories of my lab days printing in black and white after film processing and that gave me an appreciation of tones I still use today for digital.
But I could not capture or make good use of details that have not been captured by the lens.
So the lens has to do a lot here, used at optimal aperture (f5,6) to maximize contrast in a dull grey day.
The zoom (mkIII macro version) is a very good performer and would have produced quite a similar image.
It would have been very slightly weaker in the corners (not discussing F3,5 performance here) and generated more barrel distortion, easily corrected.
However I have not tried a side by side comparison and there might be more to say.
Note that any weaknesses of the zoom quite disappear if you step to the 40mm focal length (that I like very much) and you are there very very close to a prime result.
I very much like the zoom but tend to favor primes, not much because of inferior quality, but because of weight.
Most of the time I go for a one lens stroll and do not miss much the rest of my gear, just trying to do the best with what I have in my hands.
Cheers. |
Yes, I like primes too for that reason. Another plus of prime lenses: the possibility to use the image stabilization of my camera body without too much of a fuzz. And in general larger apertures that allow for added creative possibilities. |
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kiddo
Joined: 29 Jun 2018 Posts: 1121
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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kiddo wrote:
Thank you all for the replies. In fact, i basically use primes (my son's happily using the sp60-300 and very few times the 200-500), but I've just read so many good things about this zoom (and the c/y Zeiss), that I'm wondering if I really need it or not. To be honest, I'm using more 24-28mm and pass to 50mm , but it's true that sometimes , a good zoom would be a help. |
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papasito
Joined: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 1658
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
The MDIII 35/2,8 is a great little lens, as we can see looking at the pic posted.
I have a poor looking one. But the images made with it are very good ones.
I should like to use it with the 58/1 2 for b&w images or with the MC 100/2 for colour portraits.the MC 100/2 is another mágical lens to me |
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RokkorDoctor
Joined: 27 Nov 2021 Posts: 1268 Location: Kent, UK
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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RokkorDoctor wrote:
caspert79 wrote: |
Yes, I like primes too for that reason. Another plus of prime lenses: the possibility to use the image stabilization of my camera body without too much of a fuzz. And in general larger apertures that allow for added creative possibilities. |
For me the lack of a depth-of-field scale and short focus throw on most zooms is why I usually go with my primes, esp. at the wide-angle end.
Fortunately a handful of push-pull style tele zooms do have a usable / effective DOF scale with decent focus throw, which is one reason I often end up with two wide-angle primes (20mm & 35mm) and one MDIII 75-150 f/4 zoom in my bag...
And the MDIII 35mm f/2.8 is a very capable wide-angle indeed. Minolta made very few lemons _________________ Mark
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Minolta SR-1, SRT-101/303, XD7/XD11, XGM, X700
Bronica SQAi
Ricoh GX100
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Sigma 14mm/3.5 for SR mount
Tamron SP 60B 300mm/2.8 (Adaptall)
Samyang T-S 24mm/3.5 (Nikon mount, DIY converted to SR mount)
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