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Lazzaros
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 Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:39 pm Post subject: Leica Vario Elmar -R 80-200 f/4,5 |
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Lazzaros wrote:
Is this a really good lens?
I need a zoom lens. I saw this one and I'd like to know if this is a good lens to use in fashion photography.
I saw on USA ebay for 1500$ but I saw an auction in UK ebay for 250€ ( 4 days left) |
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poilu
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
the version 4.5 is from 1974, I would not wait great result
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Lazzaros
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
:S
Many thanks.
I don't wanna waist my money.
What do you recomend? |
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poilu
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
| Lazzaros wrote: |
| What do you recomend? |
Canon 70-200 2.8 L
Canon 70-200 4 L
Canon 80-200 2.8 L
Canon 85 1.8
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Lazzaros
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
Hehe...
I think Canon 85mm 1.8 it's the only one I could buy. But only in second hand.  |
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Lazzaros
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
Click here to see on Ebay
Sounds good? |
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orly_andico
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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orly_andico wrote:
the 70-200/4L non-IS is very well recommended and at $600 is quite a good deal.
Sigma also makes a 50-135/2.8 that only covers a DX / APS-C sensor for about $750.
when I was a Canon user i really wanted the 70-200/4L. you can't miss with that lens... |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
If you don't need AF there are many really nice options in this range for little money. For $100 or less you can find zoom offerings from Tamron, Kiron, And Nikon that are quite stellar. If you can spend more look for Zeiss. The Contax 35-70 will translate as a 50-100 on your canon. I have seen them go for as little as $250 (with luck). The 4/80-200 Poilu has and it is excellent with Constant f4 $300-$400. I had for a while a Contax 35-135. It is a superb zoom but a bit large. You can find them for under $700 (although most on ebay are BIN for much more).
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Lazzaros
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
My main problem is the money. I don´t have more than 250€ to spend.
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F16SUNSHINE
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
EUR250 is a big budget for a manual focus zoom. If you need Auto Focus I don't know it might be light. I have a Contax mint 4/80-200 for sale in the Market place thread ($375). You can take it if you want. You should try a Kiron or Viv Series 1 for $50 first. You might be surprised.
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
I bought from Richard just a few days before a Tamron SP 70-210mm f3.5
This lens is a very good one, I suggest to take it for you also.
I vote for Tamron SP against Kiron and others.
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/japenese/Tamron/
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
More good advise. The point is try a less expensive zoom first. Best to save the budget for you Prime lenses.
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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| More good advise. The point is try a less expensive zoom first. Best to save the budget for you Prime lenses. |
I guess better to take two bodies and prime lenses than any zooms.
Film bodies are really cheap, and used crop bodies are also going on low prices. You can find a few quality zoom out there, but most of the people just love primes.
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Lazzaros
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
I prefer prime lenses but in this case I think it would be good to have a zoom to shoot some fashion sessions.
I know maybe AF lenses should do better job but they are too expensive to me right now.
Otherwise MF zoom lenses with great quality aren't cheap too..right? |
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Tamron SP 70-210mm f3.5 is a great quality lens and if you are lucky you can get cheaply.
Tamron SP 80-200mm f2.8 rare but very good one.
Tamron SP 60-300mm also pretty good one an very cheap.
http://www.mflenses.com/rokreporter/run.html
You need I guess fast lens too and long as possible.
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Lazzaros
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Lazzaros wrote:
Don't look bad.
That Tokina could be used in my Canon 400D with an adaptor?
Click here to see on Ebay
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Only Ebay item number need in Ebay brackets, don't put whole url.
You can mount on 400D but this lens is use less too slow.
I don't think so Tokina zooms reach Tamron SP quality.
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Lazzaros
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Lazzaros wrote:
I was reading this:
http://photo.net/filters-bags-tripods-accessories-forum/00HfrQ |
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
f4-5.6
Too slow on a fashion show, you need fast lens as possible. Difficult to find speedy zooms if I am in you I definitely not try to go there with this slow lens.
Look your P.M
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Lazzaros
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
I don't wanna use it at fashion shows ( I can´t photograph it yet )
Only in my photo shoots. In the beach or whatever.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Oh I see, on beach doesn't matter which one you take on plenty of sunshine almost everything works well looks Luis samples he can get superb result with any 5$ lenses.
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Lazzaros
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
It looks good
Tomorrow I'll go to an antiquary (I don't know if I wrote good) fairy and I hope to see some bargains.  |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
For fashion runway work maybe a zoom is important. But for studio or location shoots a prime will serve you better. Best to take a mid tele that is f2.8 and sharp open. Look for a Contax 2.8/85mm or 2.8/135mm. Both can be found within your budget the 135 is cheaper. I think Klaus has(or had) an 85 for sale. Other options and maybe even less expensive at times. Nikkor 2.5/105(beautiful), kiron 2.8/105macro, Pentacon 2.8/135(bokeh monster). The monster is not so good open. The others are quite nice. Look in the MFL galleries for samples.
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poilu
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
| Lazzaros wrote: |
| Only in my photo shoots. In the beach or whatever |
in this case take a prime, you can zoom with your foot on the beach
85mm is enough on a crop, 135mm is quite long to shot full body
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| looks Luis samples he can get superb result with any 5$ lenses |
today he present a Tamron 95-205
first time that his samples are not perfect 
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Yes, he wasn't on the beach , ask him to make samples as usual:) it will be same excellent than before I am pretty sure.
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