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Tesselator
Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Posts: 235 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:41 pm Post subject: Tamron SP 28-80mm (27A) |
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Tesselator wrote:
I just got back from a trip to the mountains where I had planned to try out a new telescope. I brought the 300/2.8L, the Telescope and a new-to-me Tamron SP 28-80/3.5 Macro (27A). This may well be the sharpest zoom I own now. Needless to say i ended up spending most of my time shooting with it. I know, I'm easily impressed. but man...
For example if I hadn't processed these myself and thus knew better, I'd totally think they were just sharpened/over-sharpened water shots and therefore kinda lame. Lameness may still be granted them but not for any processing.
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28mm f/4
55mm f/4
80mm f/4 - which is wide open for 80mm on this lens (it nudges via zoom to f/4.2 I think).
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ryan s
Joined: 26 Sep 2008 Posts: 384 Location: Madison, WI
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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ryan s wrote:
I, too, have one of these (for sale ) and it's not bad...it's an old school SP after all! It's nothing special wide-open but f/4 is totally usable. Your first shot shows its sharpness from corner to corner and I love the color tones just under the water's surface _________________ Pentax Bodies: K10D + D-BG2 | MX |
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visualopsins
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
I have a copy, two in fact, for sale as well; there are too many lenses here , no ad yet..soon).
Not a bad lens. A better than average zoom for its era. IQ is much better than the kit 28-80 AF zoom lenses Canon sold with 35mm film and early dSLRs, it is also much larger (67mm filters) and it is built of metal. IQ is similar to Canon's 28-135IS, a modern lens with twice the zoom range.
A good price/performance ratio imho, copies sell from US$30-60 range, sometimes WAY less. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
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Olivier
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
You're right, it's impressive.
Beautiful pictures. Thanks. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Tesselator
Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Posts: 235 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:35 am Post subject: |
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Tesselator wrote:
ryan s wrote: |
I, too, have one of these (for sale ) and it's not bad...it's an old school SP after all! It's nothing special wide-open but f/4 is totally usable. Your first shot shows its sharpness from corner to corner and I love the color tones just under the water's surface |
Thanks for the feedback Ryan! I't appreciated!Here's two taken with the same 27A lens but in macro-mode. I wasn't counting on doing any insect macros so this is only available light, near f/4.0, and at ISO 100:
That flower is approximately 1.5cm ~ 1.7cm so I guess this little guy is about 8mm 2mm, in body length.
Slightly OOF but I like the image OK. (I wonder what this thing is called - they sure were orange... )
These are about 60% crops BTW. |
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martyn_bannister
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:58 am Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
They are very nice shots. Up until now I have preferred my SP 35-80 (01A) but it looks like I will have to find a copy of this 27A to try out |
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Olivier
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Tesselator, maybe the insect is of the syrphidae family.
http://tolweb.org/Syrphidae
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ChromaticAberration
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:31 am Post subject: |
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ChromaticAberration wrote:
martyn_bannister wrote: |
They are very nice shots. Up until now I have preferred my SP 35-80 (01A) but it looks like I will have to find a copy of this 27A to try out |
I would sure love a comparison on those two since the one you currently one is (as far as I understand) a legend on the zooms of it's class but this 28-80 is a bit broader and way cheaper. _________________ Body: Fujifilm X-E1
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martyn_bannister
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:49 am Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
ChromaticAberration wrote: |
martyn_bannister wrote: |
They are very nice shots. Up until now I have preferred my SP 35-80 (01A) but it looks like I will have to find a copy of this 27A to try out |
I would sure love a comparison on those two since the one you currently one is (as far as I understand) a legend on the zooms of it's class but this 28-80 is a bit broader and way cheaper. |
Well, if I remember correctly, I picked up my 35-80 at a car boot for 5. I've just sourced a 28-80 from ebay for 26 inc shipping, so I hope I haven't bought a pup Apparently it needs a clean, but I can certainly do a comparison before I butcher it |
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Tesselator
Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Posts: 235 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:32 am Post subject: |
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Tesselator wrote:
Do clean it before you do the comparison tho.
Here's some comments from another forum which appeared one after the other:
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debuggerus wrote:
Looks nice, BIF. Looks like you got a nice copy which is all that matters.
My copy, though not bad, didn't give the WOW factor (on full frame) I barely touched it.
The 35-80/2.8-3.8 and the 24-48/3.5-3.8 are picked more often.
Peire wrote:
I tried 35-80/2.8-3.8 and 28-80/3.5-4.2 SP Tamrons - both very sharp plus useful macro function.If I hadn't Zeiss VS 35-70/3.4 I would probably have kept one of them.The only shortcoming I noticed was poor flare resistance,but it's not a major flaw especially for that price/built quality. |
Here's some more with the same lens taken on the same day. I think these are still all at f/4.0 - again unless the zoom was at 80mm where it nudges it over to 4.2.
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The Sun came out for just long enough for this one. It almost felt like an intrusion.
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Olivier
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
It is very good to me !
First pictures show a lovely place with these green surfaces and these lovely houses.
Are these thatched roofs ?
They make me think about the lord of the ring. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Tesselator
Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Posts: 235 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Tesselator wrote:
Thanks Oli,
Yup, those are thatched roof houses. There's quite a few different styles of traditional Japanese homes. Several thatched types, a few mud types, and some mixtures of the two. These are mud walled thatched roofed homes traditional to northern Gifu prefecture - about a day's walk at full pace or an hour and forty five minutes by one of them new-fangled contraptions some refer to as automobiles. |
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Olivier
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Tesselator wrote: |
These are mud walled thatched roofed homes traditional to northern Gifu prefecture - about a day's walk at full pace or an hour and forty five minutes by one of them new-fangled contraptions some refer to as automobiles. |
We have thatched roof in France too.
For instance, in Normandy : http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/186afd52-7c1f-11e0-a386-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1Oy4vUaLo _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Tesselator
Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Posts: 235 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Tesselator wrote:
Very cool! Thatching is a construction I don't know about yet and so interests me quite a lot. |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
This is a very impressive lens. I took a look at the Modern resolution/contrast tests for it over at adaptall-2.org and was amazed at the numbers. But I shouldn't have been, given the photos you've posted. _________________ Michael
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Olivier
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
This is a very impressive lens. I took a look at the Modern resolution/contrast tests for it over at adaptall-2.org and was amazed at the numbers. But I shouldn't have been, given the photos you've posted. |
Hi Michael.
I don't know exactly these tests. Do you know what would be considered as the best figures in these resolution/contrats test ?
What do you think about the Tamron SP 35-80mm figures ?
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cooltouch
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Olivier wrote: |
cooltouch wrote: |
This is a very impressive lens. I took a look at the Modern resolution/contrast tests for it over at adaptall-2.org and was amazed at the numbers. But I shouldn't have been, given the photos you've posted. |
Hi Michael.
I don't know exactly these tests. Do you know what would be considered as the best figures in these resolution/contrats test ?
What do you think about the Tamron SP 35-80mm figures ?
http://www.adaptall-2.org/lenses/01A.html |
Typically a resolution number over 60 is excellent, more than excellent, really. You just don't see many lenses that score resolution numbers that high. I consider contrast numbers over 50% also to be excellent. _________________ Michael
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Olivier
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Thank you Michael.
So, this 28-80mm is empressive at 28mm ! _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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cooltouch
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Yes, very. And if you look at the 35-80's numbers, it's even more impressive. There are many primes that don't score as high as that 35-80 does. _________________ Michael
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Tesselator
Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Posts: 235 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Tesselator wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
This is a very impressive lens. I took a look at the Modern resolution/contrast tests for it over at adaptall-2.org and was amazed at the numbers. But I shouldn't have been, given the photos you've posted. |
Thanks, I had totally forgotten adaptall-2.org. Good on you for bringing it up! Here's the direct link for the 27A for those looking into it:
http://adaptall-2.org/lenses/27A.html
And here's the similar 01A for reference:
http://adaptall-2.org/lenses/01A.html
I'm going to keep my eye out for the 01A as while the 27A is a little better at the wide end the 01A is a little better at the long end. The 01A seems to have no macro tho and that's kind of a bummer - I dig macro and 1:3.4 at 30mm zoom to 1:1.7 at 80mm with a working distance of 1.18 feet (36cm) is just about right for most hand-held stuff I do in the field or around the house! I've found that at much over 1:1 (1x) I start needing my tripod and macro-rails for framing and focus. It also looks like the 27A is more flat-field too and that's always good for a number of photography types!
Just to keep it fun here's a 90% crop of a little froggy I caught up in the mountains and released in a local park after not being able to figure out how to set up a shot on my macro table. This guy's got jump skills and a half!
This is wide open at the widest end of the macro (about 30mm) from about 1.5 feet away. The frog is small enough to easily fit through the mouth of a coke bottle - which was his transport container and home for two days.
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D1N0 wrote:
Which would be the better lens this 27a or the 28-135mm 28a? I am looking for a good 28 to something vintage manual zoom an the Vivitar Kiron/Komine versions are hard to find and expensive for K-mount. Native pentax there is not a lot of choice. Plenty of Pentax/Takumar-a 28-80mm's but those have no SMC coatings. I already have the excellent Pentax-m 35-70mm 1:2.8-4 but want something wider. _________________ pentaxian |
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Olivier
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Olivier wrote:
Hello
An old topic revived !
I like this site for that.
The 28-135mm is f4-4.5 when the 28-80mm is f3.5-4.2.
I have this SP 028A 28-135mm f4-4.5 and like it very much. It is very pleasant to use and very versatile, and its image quality is great.
Here are some sample shots taken with it :
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uddhava
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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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uddhava wrote:
The 28-135mm is pretty heavy. |
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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
uddhava wrote: |
The 28-135mm is pretty heavy. |
I have one already but it is broken in so many ways and the seller is not responding. I am on the verge of a 1 star review. I don't think it is too heavy though. _________________ pentaxian |
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SkedAddled wrote:
I've not used the 28-135, but like cooltouch, I own 2 copies of the 28-80.
One is in excellent condition, the other even better. Performance of both seems equal.
I love the 28-80 (27A). It's compact and lightweight, yet constructed solidly enough
to take some real abuse. Physically, it operates with extreme precision; optically,
it delivers excellent results. I love its color rendition, sharpness and focal range.
It's an excellent all-purpose zoom lens.
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