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alex ph
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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:17 pm Post subject: SMC Takumar 2/55 in close-mid range |
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alex ph wrote:
Some shots taken with SMC Takumar 2/55 on Nex, with aperture f4-f5.6, autocontrast applied.
Basic colours are punchier than its close relative Yashinon-DX has. I am saying that without any prejudice, as I really appreciate the fine Yashinon rendering. That might be the main jump-into-the-eyes difference between the two lenses, together with a higher global contrast of the Takumar, while the yashinon-DX is subtler.
Meanwhile Topcor Re GN 1.8/50 has a stronger microcontrast (the first two shots here from the same places) and less basic, more biased colour accents tending to magenta and green.
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10462 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:43 am Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Those SMC colors... last photo made me chuckle _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony A7Rii, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Lenses:
Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200
Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300
Macro-Takumar 1:4/50
Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm
Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element),
Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17
Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500
Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100
Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100
SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
Other lenses:
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto
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alex ph
Joined: 16 Mar 2013 Posts: 1571
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:07 am Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
Thank you, Visualopsins!
The bird's shot posted follows this one taken a second earlier:
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:50 am Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
visualopsins wrote: |
Those SMC colors... |
I'm not too sure whether the lens has that much influence in color any longer in modern digital photography as it used to be with analog film.
In other words: Only when comparing lenses on the same camera/sensor with same settings the difference will be visible. As soon as you start comparing the same lens on different cameras/sensors the difference will be likewise obvious but influenced by the sensor.
At least that's my experience with 8 different digital system cameras from 5 different manufacturers. The remaining question is: What does influence the result more, the lens or the sensor? I think it's the sensor, like it used to be with film. _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2483
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:51 am Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
On DSLR's the light meter since it also measures colour balance :p But if you use two different lenses on the same sensor and they give you different colour tones then it is not the sensor, because that is the same for each lens. _________________ pentaxian |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10462 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:55 am Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
It's the lens -- the increased transmission of SMC gives more vibrant colors, a greater dynamic range. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony A7Rii, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Lenses:
Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200
Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300
Macro-Takumar 1:4/50
Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm
Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element),
Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17
Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500
Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100
Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100
SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
Other lenses:
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
visualopsins wrote: |
It's the lens -- the increased transmission of SMC gives more vibrant colors, a greater dynamic range. |
I have apprx. 30 SMC lenses, I know exactly what you mean and when compared to e.g. Minolta on the same camera with same settings the colors look totally different, I know.
However, the same SMC lens when used on different cameras is also looking totally different; i.e. like two different lenses.
You've got my point? _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10462 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
tb_a wrote: |
visualopsins wrote: |
It's the lens -- the increased transmission of SMC gives more vibrant colors, a greater dynamic range. |
I have apprx. 30 SMC lenses, I know exactly what you mean and when compared to e.g. Minolta on the same camera with same settings the colors look totally different, I know.
However, the same SMC lens when used on different cameras is also looking totally different; i.e. like two different lenses.
You've got my point? |
Yes, thanks! I've only seen with Canon 350D, 5D classic, & now A7RII -- those seem to look very similar... _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony A7Rii, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Lenses:
Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200
Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300
Macro-Takumar 1:4/50
Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm
Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element),
Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17
Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500
Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100
Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100
SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
Other lenses:
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto
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alex ph
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:30 am Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
I am pretty much impressed again with this lens which retains plenty of detail.
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alex ph
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:17 am Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
Wide open, with a very sharp spot in focus
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