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Nikos
Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 1077 Location: Greece
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:49 pm Post subject: Canon FD 7.5mm fisheye |
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Nikos wrote:
I saw a copy of this lens in a local dealer.
Seems in mint condition.
I searched the forum but I could not find any info.
Seems to be a rare lens.
Does anybody have it?
Any comments on its optics?
I would appreciate a few sample photos.
I am thinking of buying an FD to EOS adapter and going to the store
to make a few shots of my own. _________________ Νίκος • www.diafragma.gr
Cameras: Canon EOS 5D Mark II, Sony α7R, Sony NEX-5N
MF lenses:
SLR:
Canon TS-E 17mm f/4, Zeiss 2.8/21 ZE, Zeiss 2/28 Contax, Zeiss 2/35 ZE, Zeiss 1.4/50 Contax, Zeiss 1.4/85 Contax, Zeiss Makro 2/100 ZE,
Zeiss 2/135 Contax, Zeiss 2.8/135 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 35-70 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 100-300 Contax, Zeiss F-Distagon Rollei, Canon FD 24mm f2, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8
Rangefinder:
Zeiss 4.5/21 C Biogon ZM, Zeiss 2/35 Biogon ZM, Voigtländer 15mm f/4.5 Heliar L39, Leica Tele-Elmarit 2.8/90mm, Zeiss 2/45 Contax G, Zeiss 2.8/90 Contax G, Canon 50mm 1.8 LTM
AF lenses: Canon 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye, Canon 24-70 f/2.8 L, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II, Canon 70-200 f/4 L, Canon 300 f/4 L IS, Canon 100 f/2.8 macro
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:31 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
To use it need a superb glass adapter I don't know any is available or not.With crappy adapter it will be poor performer.
I found plenty of entries in Google.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wetta_ch/sets/72157601471394348/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24036345@N04/3028278979/ _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
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Nikos
Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 1077 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Nikos wrote:
Attila wrote: |
To use it need a superb glass adapter I don't know any is available or not.With crappy adapter it will be poor performer.
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This counts as cheap, I guess ?
Click here to see on Ebay
Seems I have come to trust the forum too much
This time I skipped Google and searched the forum directly. _________________ Νίκος • www.diafragma.gr
Cameras: Canon EOS 5D Mark II, Sony α7R, Sony NEX-5N
MF lenses:
SLR:
Canon TS-E 17mm f/4, Zeiss 2.8/21 ZE, Zeiss 2/28 Contax, Zeiss 2/35 ZE, Zeiss 1.4/50 Contax, Zeiss 1.4/85 Contax, Zeiss Makro 2/100 ZE,
Zeiss 2/135 Contax, Zeiss 2.8/135 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 35-70 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 100-300 Contax, Zeiss F-Distagon Rollei, Canon FD 24mm f2, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8
Rangefinder:
Zeiss 4.5/21 C Biogon ZM, Zeiss 2/35 Biogon ZM, Voigtländer 15mm f/4.5 Heliar L39, Leica Tele-Elmarit 2.8/90mm, Zeiss 2/45 Contax G, Zeiss 2.8/90 Contax G, Canon 50mm 1.8 LTM
AF lenses: Canon 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye, Canon 24-70 f/2.8 L, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II, Canon 70-200 f/4 L, Canon 300 f/4 L IS, Canon 100 f/2.8 macro
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Scheimpflug
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1888 Location: New Zealand / USA
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:21 am Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
Yes, you would have to factor the cost of the adapter in, as well as the risk of not having a very good result with the adapter. Is the lens just at a good price, or is it at a bargain price?
If the price is low enough, you could consider a mount conversion on the lens... _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
Nikon: 18-55/3.5-5.6 "G ED II DX" (F) Soligor: 28/2.8 (FL->F converted), 135/3.5 (F), 3x TC (F, modified) Kalimar: 28-85/3.5 (F)
Vivitar: 70-210/2.8-4.0 Version 3 (F), Tele 500/6.3 Preset (F), 19/3.8 (F) Minolta: 300/5.6 (SR/MC/MD pending F conversion)
Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
Parts Lenses: Nikon 35-135/3.5-4.5 (F), Sigma 70-210/4.5 (F), Nikon 50/1.8 Series E (F) |
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Nikos
Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 1077 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:35 am Post subject: |
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Nikos wrote:
They ask for 550 Euros.
Not quite a "bargain price".
Before doing anything, I will wait to see to what heights the price of the newly announced Canon EF 8-15mm f/4 fisheye zoom will rise.
With the 17mm Tilt-Shift they convinced me that they started to do a good job at Canon's wide-angle department.
However, they do charge accordingly (or more than accordingly). |
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Rolf
Joined: 02 May 2009 Posts: 4123 Location: NRW/Germany
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:01 am Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
You can forget glass adapters with short or shorter FD lenses. The IQ is more than bad. Glass adapters make "sense" only for longer focal length lenses like 135 or 200 mm.
Few month ago I made a short review here with a medium wide angle lens and you could see that the image corners were more than soft.
If you need a fish eye you can buy without any doubt the actual 15mm Canon EF lens for the same price. No need to wait for the new zoom which should be around 1500-1600 €.
The 15mm is the sharpest lens I own in my collection but at the end the usage is limited.
Here a link to an actual shot with the 15mm fish eye
http://forum.mflenses.com/still-life-a40-b1-a-60-kilometre-festival-of-cultures-t30452.html
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Scheimpflug
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1888 Location: New Zealand / USA
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:40 am Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
Rolf wrote: |
Few month ago I made a short review here with a medium wide angle lens and you could see that the image corners were more than soft. |
Ahh, but the 7.5mm circular fisheye has no corners! _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
Nikon: 18-55/3.5-5.6 "G ED II DX" (F) Soligor: 28/2.8 (FL->F converted), 135/3.5 (F), 3x TC (F, modified) Kalimar: 28-85/3.5 (F)
Vivitar: 70-210/2.8-4.0 Version 3 (F), Tele 500/6.3 Preset (F), 19/3.8 (F) Minolta: 300/5.6 (SR/MC/MD pending F conversion)
Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
Parts Lenses: Nikon 35-135/3.5-4.5 (F), Sigma 70-210/4.5 (F), Nikon 50/1.8 Series E (F) |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6624 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:46 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Trifox might be able to convert it to EOS... _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
See my Flickr photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/manualfocus-g |
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Rolf
Joined: 02 May 2009 Posts: 4123 Location: NRW/Germany
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:12 am Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
Scheimpflug wrote: |
Rolf wrote: |
Few month ago I made a short review here with a medium wide angle lens and you could see that the image corners were more than soft. |
Ahh, but the 7.5mm circular fisheye has no corners! |
Yes, that is right. I my opinion a lot less usable. The people use it and when the "aha-effect" is over such a lens is dead. At this focal length a Sigma lens is available.
_________________ Rolf |
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Joosep
Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Posts: 305 Location: Estonia, Tallinn
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Joosep wrote:
Rolf wrote: |
Scheimpflug wrote: |
Rolf wrote: |
Few month ago I made a short review here with a medium wide angle lens and you could see that the image corners were more than soft. |
Ahh, but the 7.5mm circular fisheye has no corners! |
Yes, that is right. I my opinion a lot less usable. The people use it and when the "aha-effect" is over such a lens is dead. At this focal length a Sigma lens is available.
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+1 !
100% with you. Fisheye lens effect gets old really fast. Ive used some and used software to "un-fisheye" the pictures and it was horrible.
Not really versatile... _________________ The future is analogue.
23 cameras, 25 lenses and counting. |
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Scheimpflug
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1888 Location: New Zealand / USA
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:28 am Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
Rolf wrote: |
Yes, that is right. I my opinion a lot less usable. The people use it and when the "aha-effect" is over such a lens is dead. |
Joosep wrote: |
+1 !
100% with you. Fisheye lens effect gets old really fast. |
As long as you only consider fisheye an "effect", then yes, it will get old quickly. But once you understand fisheye as a perspective, then the lenses take on many more uses.
Just my opinion. _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
Nikon: 18-55/3.5-5.6 "G ED II DX" (F) Soligor: 28/2.8 (FL->F converted), 135/3.5 (F), 3x TC (F, modified) Kalimar: 28-85/3.5 (F)
Vivitar: 70-210/2.8-4.0 Version 3 (F), Tele 500/6.3 Preset (F), 19/3.8 (F) Minolta: 300/5.6 (SR/MC/MD pending F conversion)
Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
Parts Lenses: Nikon 35-135/3.5-4.5 (F), Sigma 70-210/4.5 (F), Nikon 50/1.8 Series E (F) |
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Nikos
Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 1077 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Nikos wrote:
Nice photo Rolf!
Well, I got the 15mm fisheye a few months ago.
My main goal was spherical panoramas.
But I then realized that it was more useful than I thought, especially for landscapes.
Just keep an eye on your horizons. My 17mm would miss a lot here:
_________________ Νίκος • www.diafragma.gr
Cameras: Canon EOS 5D Mark II, Sony α7R, Sony NEX-5N
MF lenses:
SLR:
Canon TS-E 17mm f/4, Zeiss 2.8/21 ZE, Zeiss 2/28 Contax, Zeiss 2/35 ZE, Zeiss 1.4/50 Contax, Zeiss 1.4/85 Contax, Zeiss Makro 2/100 ZE,
Zeiss 2/135 Contax, Zeiss 2.8/135 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 35-70 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 100-300 Contax, Zeiss F-Distagon Rollei, Canon FD 24mm f2, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8
Rangefinder:
Zeiss 4.5/21 C Biogon ZM, Zeiss 2/35 Biogon ZM, Voigtländer 15mm f/4.5 Heliar L39, Leica Tele-Elmarit 2.8/90mm, Zeiss 2/45 Contax G, Zeiss 2.8/90 Contax G, Canon 50mm 1.8 LTM
AF lenses: Canon 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye, Canon 24-70 f/2.8 L, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II, Canon 70-200 f/4 L, Canon 300 f/4 L IS, Canon 100 f/2.8 macro
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
nkanellopoulos wrote: |
Attila wrote: |
To use it need a superb glass adapter I don't know any is available or not.With crappy adapter it will be poor performer.
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This counts as cheap, I guess ?
Click here to see on Ebay
Seems I have come to trust the forum too much
This time I skipped Google and searched the forum directly. |
Great _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Ed Mika
Joined: 05 Feb 2011 Posts: 23 Location: Collingwood Ontario Canada
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: Canon FD 7.5mm fisheye |
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Ed Mika wrote:
I know this is a long ago thread. In case anyone is interested I've got the first prototype EdMika adapters from last night's development for the 7.5mm fisheye and 1. the pictures are very sharp, 2. the rear element does not hit any mirrors including the fat 5D2 one and 3. I love not having to focus. I'm still working on a fine calibration system (called an EdJuster http://www.flickr.com/photos/ontarian/8151964036/in/photostream) before I release this 7.5 kit since it is critical that the flange focal distance is exactly right since you can't make up for any misalignment with a focus ring. My 5D3 took a hard fall with my 400mm 2.8 lens attached and my sensor is 0.002" too far back and this distance makes the fisheye that is perfect on an undamaged body, visibly less sharp on my hard hit 5D3.
I'll add this EdJuster system to most of my kits after allowing people to fine tune infinity at hard focus ring stop for quick finding, right now to ensure all lens calibrations can be handled I send out my kits thinner than needed giving beyond infinity focusing for most users.
-Ed Mika _________________ -Ed Mika |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: Canon FD 7.5mm fisheye |
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Attila wrote:
Ed Mika wrote: |
I know this is a long ago thread. In case anyone is interested I've got the first prototype EdMika adapters from last night's development for the 7.5mm fisheye and 1. the pictures are very sharp, 2. the rear element does not hit any mirrors including the fat 5D2 one and 3. I love not having to focus. I'm still working on a fine calibration system (called an EdJuster http://www.flickr.com/photos/ontarian/8151964036/in/photostream) before I release this 7.5 kit since it is critical that the flange focal distance is exactly right since you can't make up for any misalignment with a focus ring. My 5D3 took a hard fall with my 400mm 2.8 lens attached and my sensor is 0.002" too far back and this distance makes the fisheye that is perfect on an undamaged body, visibly less sharp on my hard hit 5D3.
I'll add this EdJuster system to most of my kits after allowing people to fine tune infinity at hard focus ring stop for quick finding, right now to ensure all lens calibrations can be handled I send out my kits thinner than needed giving beyond infinity focusing for most users.
-Ed Mika |
Please open a new topic to your adapter here
http://forum.mflenses.com/adapters-films-and-other-accessories-f10.html
I will make it to sticky for a while, to support you in this great development. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Ed Mika
Joined: 05 Feb 2011 Posts: 23 Location: Collingwood Ontario Canada
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Canon FD 7.5mm fisheye |
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Ed Mika wrote:
Thanks Attila, I have reposted to that forum. _________________ -Ed Mika |
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Manichaean
Joined: 03 Oct 2013 Posts: 68
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: Canon FD 7.5mm fisheye |
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Manichaean wrote:
Hi everybody!
I've been reading this forum for ages but just decided to write my first post )
I have recently bought this lens and it's my first circular fish-eye.
When it arrived yesterday I have looked through the glass and the diaphragm at its widest aperture looks half-closed. I mean it looks like a hexagonal opening. When I close the diaphragm it goes properly through all the clicks and the opening gets smaller every time.
So I've been wandering if it is OK for this particular lens that at 5.6 the diaphragm is not completely open? |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3754 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: Canon FD 7.5mm fisheye |
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stevemark wrote:
Manichaean wrote: |
Hi everybody!
I've been reading this forum for ages but just decided to write my first post )
I have recently bought this lens and it's my first circular fish-eye.
When it arrived yesterday I have looked through the glass and the diaphragm at its widest aperture looks half-closed. I mean it looks like a hexagonal opening. When I close the diaphragm it goes properly through all the clicks and the opening gets smaller every time.
So I've been wandering if it is OK for this particular lens that at 5.6 the diaphragm is not completely open? |
I don't know the Canon 7.5mm Fisheye, but i know that there are some lenses which by default are "stopped down" a little bit. The Minolta Rokkor-PG 9.5/18mm Fisheye (an early Fisheye lens, released in 1966) is such a lens: It is stopped down about 2-3 EV by default. If its aperture would be removed, it would be around f4 or f5.6, but certainly not f9.5.
So it's not unlikely that Canon had encountered similar problems with their 7.5mm Fisheye ...
Stephan _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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