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j.lukow
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 Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:47 am Post subject: exa and hooded finder |
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j.lukow wrote:
A question for those with more experience than I...
I have an Exa along with the penta-prism / hooded finder as shown in the picture ...
When I have the "hooded finder" installed The camera develops tunnel vision - the field of view is like the "sketch" below ...
Is this a quirk of the gear or an indicator that the finder is missing something?
Thanks in advance for future help.
Jim
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Jim's Kit:
Minolta Kit: Minolta X570 & Autowinder G, Minolta SRT200
LENSES:Minolta - 45mm & 50mm F1:2, PF 58mm F1:1.4, Tamron 28mm f1:2.5, Tamron SP 35-80mm f1:2.8/3.8 & CF TeleMacro zoom 80-210 f1:3.8, Vivitar f3.0~4.5 35-200mm macro focusing zoom, f 2.8 28mm CF Wide angle, 2x macro focus teleconverter,Sigma F4 25-250, f 2.8~4 35-70mm zoom master,Tokina SD f4-5.6 70-210 zoom, f4.5 80-200 "Ultra" Zoom,AutoImage 135mm F1:2.8, Spiratone 400mm f1:6.3, Magicon f3.5-4.8 35-70mm macro zoom,Quantary f8-500 Mirror/macro lens, Accura MD mount Macro bellows
M42 Kit:Praktica PLC2,Yashica TL Electro X
LENSES:Meyer Goerlitz Oreston 50mm f1:1.8 , Auto Yashinon DX 1:1.7 50mm,Steinheil Munchen Culminar 135mm f4.5, Adaptall-2 M42 adapter
Zeiss . . . Zeiss Contaflex 126 system, Zeiss Contaflex Super
Medium Format: Pentacon sixTL
Hasselblad 500c/m - CZ 2.8-80mm planar, CZ 4-150mm sonnarCF |
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Sciolist
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| Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:23 am Post subject: |
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Sciolist wrote:
No Jim, I've just tried the same set up for you and the view is normal. The view you have seems to be of the back of the lens via the mirror in cocked position, which you can see when you have no viewfinder on at all. No offence, but just to eliminate it - are you sure the viewfinder has its focusing block installed ? It's the only thing I can think of at the minute. I'll keep thinking. |
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j.lukow
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| Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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j.lukow wrote:
Thanks for the quick reply . . .
Here is a comparison of the two _ waist level vs hooded . . .
I guess something is missing . . . or is it a separate part?
The one in the waist level is firmly secured and I don't want to risk mucking with it.
The base of the hooded shows grooves and such, as well as 2 pins.
Jim
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EMPLOYMENT: That which funded photography and my new woodworking business.j.lukow
Jim's Kit:
Minolta Kit: Minolta X570 & Autowinder G, Minolta SRT200
LENSES:Minolta - 45mm & 50mm F1:2, PF 58mm F1:1.4, Tamron 28mm f1:2.5, Tamron SP 35-80mm f1:2.8/3.8 & CF TeleMacro zoom 80-210 f1:3.8, Vivitar f3.0~4.5 35-200mm macro focusing zoom, f 2.8 28mm CF Wide angle, 2x macro focus teleconverter,Sigma F4 25-250, f 2.8~4 35-70mm zoom master,Tokina SD f4-5.6 70-210 zoom, f4.5 80-200 "Ultra" Zoom,AutoImage 135mm F1:2.8, Spiratone 400mm f1:6.3, Magicon f3.5-4.8 35-70mm macro zoom,Quantary f8-500 Mirror/macro lens, Accura MD mount Macro bellows
M42 Kit:Praktica PLC2,Yashica TL Electro X
LENSES:Meyer Goerlitz Oreston 50mm f1:1.8 , Auto Yashinon DX 1:1.7 50mm,Steinheil Munchen Culminar 135mm f4.5, Adaptall-2 M42 adapter
Zeiss . . . Zeiss Contaflex 126 system, Zeiss Contaflex Super
Medium Format: Pentacon sixTL
Hasselblad 500c/m - CZ 2.8-80mm planar, CZ 4-150mm sonnarCF |
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j.lukow
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| Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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j.lukow wrote:
Is this what I am missing ?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IHAGEE-FOCUSING-SCREEN-FOR-EXAKTA-EXA-PLAIN-GROUND-GLASS-207151/143192933088?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20180105095853%26meid%3D01c0e7c647764f35879428f18ff6e788%26pid%3D100903%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D20%26sd%3D143192933088%26itm%3D143192933088%26pg%3D2509164&_trksid=p2509164.c100903.m5276
Or is it something else?
Jim
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EMPLOYMENT: That which funded photography and my new woodworking business.j.lukow
Jim's Kit:
Minolta Kit: Minolta X570 & Autowinder G, Minolta SRT200
LENSES:Minolta - 45mm & 50mm F1:2, PF 58mm F1:1.4, Tamron 28mm f1:2.5, Tamron SP 35-80mm f1:2.8/3.8 & CF TeleMacro zoom 80-210 f1:3.8, Vivitar f3.0~4.5 35-200mm macro focusing zoom, f 2.8 28mm CF Wide angle, 2x macro focus teleconverter,Sigma F4 25-250, f 2.8~4 35-70mm zoom master,Tokina SD f4-5.6 70-210 zoom, f4.5 80-200 "Ultra" Zoom,AutoImage 135mm F1:2.8, Spiratone 400mm f1:6.3, Magicon f3.5-4.8 35-70mm macro zoom,Quantary f8-500 Mirror/macro lens, Accura MD mount Macro bellows
M42 Kit:Praktica PLC2,Yashica TL Electro X
LENSES:Meyer Goerlitz Oreston 50mm f1:1.8 , Auto Yashinon DX 1:1.7 50mm,Steinheil Munchen Culminar 135mm f4.5, Adaptall-2 M42 adapter
Zeiss . . . Zeiss Contaflex 126 system, Zeiss Contaflex Super
Medium Format: Pentacon sixTL
Hasselblad 500c/m - CZ 2.8-80mm planar, CZ 4-150mm sonnarCF |
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Sciolist
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| Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Sciolist wrote:
^^Yes, from the pictures, the focusing screen you show is missing from your eye level finder. The waist level (hooded) finder, as you say, has its focusing block in place. |
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kansalliskala
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| Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:27 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
| Sciolist wrote: |
| ^^Yes, from the pictures, the focusing screen you show is missing from your eye level finder. The waist level (hooded) finder, as you say, has its focusing block in place. |
many cameras the focusing screen is fitted on the body, not finder
but it is flat, this is some sort of "new technology" in it's age
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Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
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Sciolist
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| Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Sciolist wrote:
| kansalliskala wrote: |
| Sciolist wrote: |
| ^^Yes, from the pictures, the focusing screen you show is missing from your eye level finder. The waist level (hooded) finder, as you say, has its focusing block in place. |
many cameras the focusing screen is fitted on the body, not finder
but it is flat, this is some sort of "new technology" in it's age |
Yes, Ihagee introduced it in their new Exakta Varex line in 1950 and in the new Exa line of 1951. The compact Exa and 'big brother' Exakta cameras could exchange lenses, viewfinders and focusing screens between each other. And when you think about it, changing the screen is much easier if it is simply a press fit on a pop out viewfinder, so I'm guessing it made sense back in the day.
With regard to the shape of the focusing screen, I'm afraid the reasons are beyond my knowledge. I know there was a flat ground glass available for reproduction work. |
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j.lukow
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j.lukow wrote:
Thanks again.
This answers many things and I can put things into proper order and gain a usable finder.
Jim
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EMPLOYMENT: That which funded photography and my new woodworking business.j.lukow
Jim's Kit:
Minolta Kit: Minolta X570 & Autowinder G, Minolta SRT200
LENSES:Minolta - 45mm & 50mm F1:2, PF 58mm F1:1.4, Tamron 28mm f1:2.5, Tamron SP 35-80mm f1:2.8/3.8 & CF TeleMacro zoom 80-210 f1:3.8, Vivitar f3.0~4.5 35-200mm macro focusing zoom, f 2.8 28mm CF Wide angle, 2x macro focus teleconverter,Sigma F4 25-250, f 2.8~4 35-70mm zoom master,Tokina SD f4-5.6 70-210 zoom, f4.5 80-200 "Ultra" Zoom,AutoImage 135mm F1:2.8, Spiratone 400mm f1:6.3, Magicon f3.5-4.8 35-70mm macro zoom,Quantary f8-500 Mirror/macro lens, Accura MD mount Macro bellows
M42 Kit:Praktica PLC2,Yashica TL Electro X
LENSES:Meyer Goerlitz Oreston 50mm f1:1.8 , Auto Yashinon DX 1:1.7 50mm,Steinheil Munchen Culminar 135mm f4.5, Adaptall-2 M42 adapter
Zeiss . . . Zeiss Contaflex 126 system, Zeiss Contaflex Super
Medium Format: Pentacon sixTL
Hasselblad 500c/m - CZ 2.8-80mm planar, CZ 4-150mm sonnarCF |
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Sciolist
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| Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Sciolist wrote:
You're welcome.
These pages may help your choices Jim.
Viewfinders -
http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/exakta/finders.html
Viewing screens -
http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/exakta/system-1969.html |
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kansalliskala
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| Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:09 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
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| http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/exakta/system-1969.html |
I really never want to go near the Kolpofot device.
With the flash 500 volt power source.
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MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
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Sciolist
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Sciolist wrote:
| kansalliskala wrote: |
| Sciolist wrote: |
| http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/exakta/system-1969.html |
I really never want to go near the Kolpofot device.
With the flash 500 volt power source.
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 Me neither.
I do have some of those accessories though, - just the bellows, rings and weird shutter release. They are very well made. |
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j.lukow
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| Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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j.lukow wrote:
| kansalliskala wrote: |
| Sciolist wrote: |
| http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/exakta/system-1969.html |
I really never want to go near the Kolpofot device.
With the flash 500 volt power source.
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The photos and not the photographic process is allowed to be shocking.
Jim
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EMPLOYMENT: That which funded photography and my new woodworking business.j.lukow
Jim's Kit:
Minolta Kit: Minolta X570 & Autowinder G, Minolta SRT200
LENSES:Minolta - 45mm & 50mm F1:2, PF 58mm F1:1.4, Tamron 28mm f1:2.5, Tamron SP 35-80mm f1:2.8/3.8 & CF TeleMacro zoom 80-210 f1:3.8, Vivitar f3.0~4.5 35-200mm macro focusing zoom, f 2.8 28mm CF Wide angle, 2x macro focus teleconverter,Sigma F4 25-250, f 2.8~4 35-70mm zoom master,Tokina SD f4-5.6 70-210 zoom, f4.5 80-200 "Ultra" Zoom,AutoImage 135mm F1:2.8, Spiratone 400mm f1:6.3, Magicon f3.5-4.8 35-70mm macro zoom,Quantary f8-500 Mirror/macro lens, Accura MD mount Macro bellows
M42 Kit:Praktica PLC2,Yashica TL Electro X
LENSES:Meyer Goerlitz Oreston 50mm f1:1.8 , Auto Yashinon DX 1:1.7 50mm,Steinheil Munchen Culminar 135mm f4.5, Adaptall-2 M42 adapter
Zeiss . . . Zeiss Contaflex 126 system, Zeiss Contaflex Super
Medium Format: Pentacon sixTL
Hasselblad 500c/m - CZ 2.8-80mm planar, CZ 4-150mm sonnarCF |
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