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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5027 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 1:56 pm Post subject: Promura 200/3.5 m42 who made and worth fixing? |
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kansalliskala wrote:
Got this for almost free, but has some issues: is it worth tinkering?
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_________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
AF: Canon, Tokina, Sigma Video: JVC GZ-MG275E |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10463 Location: California
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Depends what is "some issues?" _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Lenses:
Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200
Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300
Macro-Takumar 1:4/50
Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm
Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element),
Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17
Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500
Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100
Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100
SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
Other lenses:
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2483
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
why not? _________________ pentaxian |
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5027 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 6:41 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
visualopsins wrote: |
Depends what is "some issues?" |
aperture mechanism not working right, just mechanical, opens from rear so not a big repair
does the distance scale markings ring any bells, I know these have been discussed here but bit hard do find, not Tokina diamond and not Sankor italic numbers (got me a Sankor made Unitor 135/2.8 with the same deal too)
edit: Kobori is diamond? Tokina the dropping ball, hard to look older threads because of missing pictures _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
AF: Canon, Tokina, Sigma Video: JVC GZ-MG275E |
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Sciolist
Joined: 29 Mar 2017 Posts: 1445 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 7:19 am Post subject: |
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Sciolist wrote:
EDIT: Forget this post. On closer inspection, the dof scale on the Palinar is very similar, but not identical.
Have a look at Tokyo Optical Equipment Manufacturing, during their Tokyo Koki period.
I recently acquired a T mount pre-set Palinar 135/3.5 with the same dof markings and colour choices as yours. I've read of it being referred to as Tokyo Koki, but I've never looked into it.
I don't want to send you off on a red herring, but Palinar was simply a name conjured up by Charles Strasser of Photopia to enable importation and sale of Japanese lenses through his UK network. Like Ponder and Best did with Vivitar (Tokina) in the US for example. Perhaps Promura is the same, perhaps not.
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Hood
Joined: 26 Jan 2012 Posts: 469 Location: Perth, Australia
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Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 7:28 am Post subject: |
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Hood wrote:
I have this exact same lens at home in my lens cabinet. Although I think mine is nikon mount.
I will have to dig it out and see if I can give you any comparisons. _________________
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Lens Collection:Slr Magic 28/2.8, Slr Magic 35/1.7, Minolta Rokkor 45/2, Minolta Rokkor 50/1.4, Minolta W-Rokkor-sg 28/3.5, Minolta 35-70/3.5, Minolta Rokkor-PF 55/1.9, Minolta W.Rokkor 28/3.5, Monolta MD 50/2*2, Minolta 50/1.7, Minolta zealox bellows, Minolta e.Rokkor 75/4.5, Sony 18-55 3.5/5.6, Sony 16/2.8, Asahi Smc Takumar 55/1.8, Asahi Smc Takumar 50/1.5, Meyer Gerlitz Dimoplan 50/2.8,Meyer Gerlitz Orestegon 50/1.8, Tamron 35/2.8, Tamron 70-220/4, Tamron aspherical 28-200 3.8-5.6, Seimar 28/2.8, Aus Jena Tessar 50/2.8, Industar 50/3.5, Industar 26m 50/2.8, Industar 61 55/2.8, Industar 69 28/2.8, Carenar 45/2.8, Pentacon electric 50/1.8, Pentacon 30/3.5, Pentacon 29/2.8, Helios 44m 58/2, Miida 35/2.8, Miida 75-205/3.8, Cosina 28/2.8, Kenlock 135/2.8, Kenlock 35/2.8, Kenlock Mc-tor 28/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2, Vivitar 28-85 3.5-4.5 macro, Vivitar 28-80 3.5-5.6 macro, Exacta 35-70 3.5-4.8 macro, Sigma 35-70 2.8-4, Sigma 100-200 4.5, SamYong 18-28 4-4.5, Photax-Pharagon 35/2.8, Travenar 35/2.8, Travenar 50/1.8, Tokina 70-210 4-5.6, Tokina 28/2.8, Promura 200/3.5, Sirius 20-200 3.9, Soligor 200/3.5, Canon FL 50/1.8, Canon FD 35-70 3.5-4.5, Auto Focal 75-200/4.5, Zenit Zenitar 50/2,Tokina353 35-300mm(KX), Pentax 18-55(KX), Pentax 35-80(KX), Sigma 14mm F2.8(KX), Sigma 70-200mm(KX), Sigma 24-70mm(KX), Pentax 35-135 macro(KX), plus I have a few in for service right now and I'm always collecting more...
It's been a few years now, I need to sit down and update this list...it has grown considerably! haha
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D1N0
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Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 8:12 am Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
It looks like a Tokina. http://allphotolenses.com/lenses/item/c_945.html#prettyPhoto _________________ pentaxian |
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dbuergi
Joined: 30 Sep 2015 Posts: 102 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 9:12 am Post subject: |
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dbuergi wrote:
Could be the named Tokina 200mm 3.5
If so the optical quality is not so good. You need at least to go down to F5.6 to get sharpness. _________________ Follow me on Instagram @danyelbfoto
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 9:15 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
From what I can see of it, it looks like a Komine-made Vivitar I own. The ribbed metal focusing collar is what reminds me of it. _________________ Michael
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D1N0
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Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 11:07 am Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
dbuergi wrote: |
Could be the named Tokina 200mm 3.5
If so the optical quality is not so good. You need at least to go down to F5.6 to get sharpness. |
There are at least three different versions of that lens. For the oldest one with tripod collar that would be correct. Don't know about the other ones. I have an older copy with eight aperture blades and tripod mount. This one has six blades. _________________ pentaxian |
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5027 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 4:34 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
From what I can see of it, it looks like a Komine-made Vivitar I own. The ribbed metal focusing collar is what reminds me of it. |
I could actually post better pictures, these were with my computer camera. _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
AF: Canon, Tokina, Sigma Video: JVC GZ-MG275E |
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5027 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 10:58 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
I fixed it, nice to use with Fujica st605n , don't know about iq yet because didn't develop the film yet. _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
AF: Canon, Tokina, Sigma Video: JVC GZ-MG275E |
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