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Eriksen
Joined: 15 Nov 2016 Posts: 153
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:47 am Post subject: Nikon 55mm vs. Hexanon 55mm? |
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Eriksen wrote:
Which of these lenses is sharpest?
Anybody here with experiences? |
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Phalbert
Joined: 17 May 2009 Posts: 359 Location: Namibia
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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Phalbert wrote:
You may need to be more specific... 😊 There are quite a few Nikkor 55mm but AFAIK only one Konica, the f 3,5 macro. _________________ 🙋 My wishlist: Titan or Idaho 135/1,8 Nikon Df Nikkor 105/1,8 35/1,4 85/1,4
My dream lenses: Zuiko 180/2 Prototype Zuiko 85/1,4
Zeiss CY: 55/1,2 85/1,2
Astro Berlin 250/2 Canon EF 50/1,0 85/1,2
Nikkor 105/1,4 28/1,4
My stolen stuff: Zuiko 24/2 #106874; Zuiko 35-80/2,8 #102180; Zuiko 35/2 #119168; Zuiko 90/2 macro #102858; Zuiko x1,4 converter #102019; Tamron 17/3,5 #400567; Tamron 400/4 #80407; Soligor 135/2 #17506600 Sigma 28/1,8 #1001124 |
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1554 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
I only have the Hexanon. But for some reason I prefer the Macro Takumar 50mm f/4 1:1. |
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KEO
Joined: 27 Sep 2018 Posts: 761 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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KEO wrote:
I have a 55mm 1.2 Ai Nikkor. It's not particularly sharp wide open (is that any surprise?), but has excellent sharpness when stopped down a bit.
I like it a lot, but it wasn't cheap. It wasn't egregiously expensive either, but not cheap. |
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kiddo
Joined: 29 Jun 2018 Posts: 1121
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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kiddo wrote:
I have the 2.8 macro and there are lots of good opinions about this lens . Make sure it has new grease on focus and clean blades , but sharpness probably among the best of the bunch . |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10540 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:06 am Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
A difference between Nikkors 55 2.8 and 3.5 has been noted -- I forget which has better infinity performance... _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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Doc Sharptail
Joined: 23 Nov 2020 Posts: 993 Location: Winnipeg Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:43 am Post subject: |
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Doc Sharptail wrote:
visualopsins wrote: |
A difference between Nikkors 55 2.8 and 3.5 has been noted -- I forget which has better infinity performance... |
The nikkor 55 3.5 micro is a recent arrival here for me..
Mine is the last flat field version of this lens. It's rapid focus ability at normal shooting ranges is quite a pleasant surprise.
It has the best infinity performance of all my nikkor normal lenses.
I believe my sample is a factory a.i. conversion- it has the older 5 screw rear mount.
Of course it was actually designed to be used fully extended for macro work, which it seems to excel at, despite it's dedicated extension tube not being included with it.
-D.S. _________________
D-810, F2, FTN.
35mm f2 O.C. nikkor
50 f2 H nikkor, 50 f 1.4 AI-s, 135 f3.5 Q,
50 f2 K nikkor 2x, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 35-105 3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 200mm f4 Micro A/I, partial list.
"Ain't no half-way" -S.R.V.
"Oh Yeah... Alright" -Paul Simon |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3754 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
visualopsins wrote: |
A difference between Nikkors 55 2.8 and 3.5 has been noted -- I forget which has better infinity performance... |
Due to its complicated double floating system, the AiS Nikkor 2.8/55mm has a much better performance at infinity than the Nikkor Ai 3.5/55mm or the Konica Hexanon AR 3.5/55mm. The AiS 2.8/55mm is a six lens design, the Ai 3.5/55 a five lens design, and the Hexanon AR 3.5/55mm has only four lenses. Tested side-by-side on 24 MP full frame Sony A7II. Comparable to the Nkkor 2.8/55mm is the Minolta AF 2.8/50mm - which is a tad wider and thus more difficult to construct. Double floating system as well, but with seven lenses though.
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EDIT: Topcor RE 3.5/58mm Macro is a very good performer at infinity - better than Hexanon 3.5/55 Macro or Nikkor 3.5/55 Micro. Five lens design as well.
EDIT 2: Most other vintage 50mm / 55mm Macro lenses I have at infinity are better than both the Nikkor 3.5/55m and the Konica AR 3.5/55mm (e. g. Canon nFD 3.5/50mm, Mamiya Sekor CS and E 3.5/50mm, Minolta MD 3.5/50mm, Minolta AF 2.8/50mm, Topcor RE 3.5/58mm) _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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ckshene
Joined: 31 Dec 2015 Posts: 11 Location: Houghton, MI
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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:14 am Post subject: |
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ckshene wrote:
There are so many versions of the 50/3.5, a single of 50/2.8, and a single version of the AF 50/2.8. If I have to choose one for macro work, the AF 50/2.8 is the best. Of the several versions of the 50/3.5, the earliest one, the so-called compensating version that opens up the aperture automatically as the focus distance decreases, is perhaps the best for macro. But this compensating version is not very good for moderate shooting distance and beyond. Please note that except for the oldest version of the 3.5 which was discontinued right after the small 3.5 compensating version appeared, none of the MF 3.5 and 2.8 can do 1:1. Nikon supplied extension tubes to achieve 1:1, but at the same time you get light loss. The AF 50/2.8 version is the one before the legendary AF 60/2.8. However, the AF 50/2.8 is not very common as its lifespan was short. So, if you wish to have a 1:1 capable Nikon micro lens for a reasonable price, the AFD 60/2.8 is the one to go. The problem with the AF 50/2.8 and 60/2.8 is that they are made for AF purpose, and, as a result, its focus ring is not as smooth as those on MF lenses.[/quote] |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3754 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
ckshene wrote: |
There are so many versions of the 50/3.5, a single of 50/2.8, and a single version of the AF 50/2.8. If I have to choose one for macro work, the AF 50/2.8 is the best. Of the several versions of the 50/3.5, the earliest one, the so-called compensating version that opens up the aperture automatically as the focus distance decreases, is perhaps the best for macro. But this compensating version is not very good for moderate shooting distance and beyond. Please note that except for the oldest version of the 3.5 which was discontinued right after the small 3.5 compensating version appeared, none of the MF 3.5 and 2.8 can do 1:1. Nikon supplied extension tubes to achieve 1:1, but at the same time you get light loss. The AF 50/2.8 version is the one before the legendary AF 60/2.8. However, the AF 50/2.8 is not very common as its lifespan was short. So, if you wish to have a 1:1 capable Nikon micro lens for a reasonable price, the AFD 60/2.8 is the one to go. The problem with the AF 50/2.8 and 60/2.8 is that they are made for AF purpose, and, as a result, its focus ring is not as smooth as those on MF lenses. |
I guess you are talking about Nikkor lenses? If so, be aware that there's no Micro Nikkor 3.5/50 or 2.8/50, and neither an AF Nikkor 2.8/50mm. It should read "micro Nikkor 3.5/55mm" and "Micro (AF) Nikkor 2.8/55mm".
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10540 Location: California
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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
ckshene wrote: |
There are so many versions of the 50/3.5, a single of 50/2.8, and a single version of the AF 50/2.8. If I have to choose one for macro work, the AF 50/2.8 is the best. Of the several versions of the 50/3.5, the earliest one, the so-called compensating version that opens up the aperture automatically as the focus distance decreases, is perhaps the best for macro. But this compensating version is not very good for moderate shooting distance and beyond. Please note that except for the oldest version of the 3.5 which was discontinued right after the small 3.5 compensating version appeared, none of the MF 3.5 and 2.8 can do 1:1. Nikon supplied extension tubes to achieve 1:1, but at the same time you get light loss. The AF 50/2.8 version is the one before the legendary AF 60/2.8. However, the AF 50/2.8 is not very common as its lifespan was short. So, if you wish to have a 1:1 capable Nikon micro lens for a reasonable price, the AFD 60/2.8 is the one to go. The problem with the AF 50/2.8 and 60/2.8 is that they are made for AF purpose, and, as a result, its focus ring is not as smooth as those on MF lenses. |
I guess you are talking about Nikkor lenses? If so, be aware that there's no Micro Nikkor 3.5/50 or 2.8/50, and neither an AF Nikkor 2.8/50mm. It should read "micro Nikkor 3.5/55mm" and "Micro (AF) Nikkor 2.8/55mm".
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http://www.photosynthesis.co.nz/nikon/lenses.html#55Micro _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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sheepeck
Joined: 11 Jun 2021 Posts: 14
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:43 am Post subject: |
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sheepeck wrote:
Just in case the OP question was aimed at 55/1.2 - few shots taken with Nikkor lens (K type) on D700:
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