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walter g
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:06 pm Post subject: Auto Miranda 105mm f2.8 |
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walter g wrote:
Auto miranda 105mm f2.8
1st test shot on Panasonic G5. Shot wide open.
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Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:56 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
That softness at full aperture could be useful for some portraits.
What is it like at say f8 ?
Tom |
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e6filmuser
Joined: 12 Nov 2010 Posts: 488 Location: Reading UK
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:25 am Post subject: |
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e6filmuser wrote:
The softness also works well for the rose. _________________ Dedicated to using manual focus lenses with digital. Equiped for photography from macro to panoramic & from ultra-wide to extreme telephoto. Mostly shooting outdoor macro. Experienced entomological taxonomist. |
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
Oldhand wrote: |
That softness at full aperture could be useful for some portraits.
What is it like at say f8 ?
Tom |
I haven't tested it at f8 yet, but from what I understand it supposed to be sharp all the way across the frame at f8.
I will test it weather permitting. _________________
Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
Auto Miranda 105mm f2.8
2nd and 3rd shots at f4
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Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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vivaldibow
Joined: 23 Jun 2018 Posts: 835
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:09 am Post subject: Re: Auto Miranda 105mm f2.8 |
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vivaldibow wrote:
walter g wrote: |
Auto miranda 105mm f2.8
1st test shot on Panasonic G5. Shot wide open.
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Nice finding and nice pic. Is Miranda actually Soligor? |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:56 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Managed to locate one of these.
Yes, soft wide open and firms up nicely at f8.
Shot as jpeg and b/w in LR - no other PP
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:52 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
And in a case where sharpest isn't best........
here are the same two images with a simple contrast adjustment.
Tom
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:48 pm Post subject: Re: Auto Miranda 105mm f2.8 |
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walter g wrote:
vivaldibow wrote: |
walter g wrote: |
Auto miranda 105mm f2.8
1st test shot on Panasonic G5. Shot wide open.
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Nice finding and nice pic. Is Miranda actually Soligor? |
Thanks, I've wanted a copy of this lens for quite awhile. I was glad to finally get one.
I believe the Auto series were Miranda design's. and very few of that series were also sold as Soligors. _________________
Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
Oldhand wrote: |
And in a case where sharpest isn't best........
here are the same two images with a simple contrast adjustment.
Tom
@f2.8
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@f8
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It's amazing what a little contrast boost will do for this lens. I'm glad you got one. _________________
Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Me too - it's a great lens.
I was shooting portraits a little while back - it would have been perfect for those.
Tom |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Some shots from this morning with this very nice lens
T
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vivaldibow
Joined: 23 Jun 2018 Posts: 835
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:59 am Post subject: |
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vivaldibow wrote:
You are showing great photos using this lens, Tom. My copy, the 10.5cm version Auto Miranda, doesn't seem to be really good. It is not at the average level of all my 105mm lenses. Kind of weird. I believe all vintage 105mm lenses (not the triplet) should be pretty good.
Is yours 10.5cm or 105mm? |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
vivaldibow wrote: |
You are showing great photos using this lens, Tom. My copy, the 10.5cm version Auto Miranda, doesn't seem to be really good. It is not at the average level of all my 105mm lenses. Kind of weird. I believe all vintage 105mm lenses (not the triplet) should be pretty good.
Is yours 10.5cm or 105mm? |
Yes, it is the 105mm.
A very well made lens I think
T
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:27 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
vivaldibow wrote: |
You are showing great photos using this lens, Tom. My copy, the 10.5cm version Auto Miranda, doesn't seem to be really good. It is not at the average level of all my 105mm lenses. Kind of weird. I believe all vintage 105mm lenses (not the triplet) should be pretty good.
Is yours 10.5cm or 105mm? |
vivaldibow, which version of the 10.5cm lens do you have.?
There are more then one. Post a pic of the lens if you can.
During the Miranda 10.5cm lens production, Miranda switched from a 6/4 design to a 5/5 design.
All Auto Miranda 105mm f2.8 lenses used the 5/5 design. _________________
Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
A few more from this afternoon
Tom
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papasito
Joined: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 1658
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
Seems that you are likening the miranda lenses more and more.
And you are right. Lovely lenses- |
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vivaldibow
Joined: 23 Jun 2018 Posts: 835
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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vivaldibow wrote:
Oldhand wrote: |
Yes, it is the 105mm.
A very well made lens I think
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walter g wrote: |
vivaldibow, which version of the 10.5cm lens do you have.?
There are more then one. Post a pic of the lens if you can.
During the Miranda 10.5cm lens production, Miranda switched from a 6/4 design to a 5/5 design.
All Auto Miranda 105mm f2.8 lenses used the 5/5 design. |
Hi Oldland and walter,
Here are the photos of mine. I remember a fellow member also mentioned his 105mm is not very good.
http://forum.mflenses.com/miranda-2-8-105mm-on-nex-3-t49986.html
Actually I checked my photos, I found
under cloudy weather or indoor, they seem to be fine; but with light at the background (not really backlit scene), the sharpness dropped. For
example, for the petal of a flower, the edge is not clearly defined, but smeared. By light at the background, I didn't mean very harsh light condition
at all.
From Oldland's photo, I do notice the difference of my copy and your copy.
I have another Soligor Miranda 105mm by Kowa, that lens is quite sharp. I guess the Auto Miranda is not made by Kowa.
I think I have many of the 105mm lenses made in Japan in that period of time, from major manufacturer to third party. This particular Auto Miranda 10.5cm copy is a surprise.
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:44 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
No, I don't believe the Auto Miranda's were made by Kowa.
I am working on who actually made them now. Might be a long process. _________________
Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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D1N0
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:54 am Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
These silver eared versions were mainly made by Tokina. There is a Soligor version that looks the same with a Tokina Serial number.
https://youtu.be/FrMaLtu48nE _________________ pentaxian |
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vivaldibow
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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vivaldibow wrote:
D1N0 wrote: |
These silver eared versions were mainly made by Tokina. There is a Soligor version that looks the same with a Tokina Serial number.
https://youtu.be/FrMaLtu48nE |
I was thinking the same. However, I have the Tokina made 105mm f/2.8 (either Vivitar or Soligor versions), all of them perform very well. While the one I had in my previous post just doesn't behave the same. I am getting a 105mm f/2.8 (not the 10.5cm version) to see how it does. |
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:45 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
I think the most likely maker is Tokina, but I think the lens was designed by or for Miranda. So the other Tokina made lenses aren't the same. _________________
Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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