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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:02 pm    Post subject: 90mm for Street Photgraphy? Reply with quote

Im currently using a 35mm on a Bessa R2, has anyone tried 90mm for street work? Too tight ?
Ian


PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried 85mm and 90mm on my Leica, but in narrow streets I found it pretty difficult for non-stationary subjects. However, it can work nicely if you have more open area's.


PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An 85mm f/2 can be useful for isolating subjects in a crowd or selecting details in an otherwise empty environment.

The Jupiter 9 is widely available at a reasonable price, so might be worth a try. If you don't like it, no great loss or sell it on, if you do like it, use it until you can afford something even better Wink


PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kypfer, funny, I was indeed referring to the Jupiter-9 (and the Summicron-M 90 pre-APO) and it is an excellent lens for sure. For the situations you mention, 85-90 can be great, but I found it uncomfortable as a single walkaround lens. As an addition to a 35 or 50, that is a totally different matter of course Wink


PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've used 100mm, and it's not an impossible focal length for street.
Won't lend you that "up close and personal" look if you are focused on candids though.

Canon FDn 100mm F2.8


Showing off the goods by Curry Hexagon






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As soon as you leave an open street though, it immediately gets awfully tight:



PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tu for sharing the images and advice, it’s appreciated.
I’m now considering my options:-)


PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I were to consider 90mm as being in the middle of this general focal range, say from 80mm to 105mm, there are several good lenses I can think of that will work well.

Canon FD 85mm f/1.8
Canon FD 85mm f/1.2 L or Aspherical
Canon 100mm f/2.8
Nikon 85mm f/1.4, f/1.8 and f/2
Nikon 105mm f/2.5
Samyang 85mm f/1.4

And, of course, whenever I think 90mm, I think Tamron SP 90mm f/2.5 macro -- a remarkable lens.


PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cooltouch wrote:
If I were to consider 90mm as being in the middle of this general focal range, say from 80mm to 105mm, there are several good lenses I can think of that will work well.

Canon FD 85mm f/1.8
Canon FD 85mm f/1.2 L or Aspherical
Canon 100mm f/2.8
Nikon 85mm f/1.4, f/1.8 and f/2
Nikon 105mm f/2.5
Samyang 85mm f/1.4

And, of course, whenever I think 90mm, I think Tamron SP 90mm f/2.5 macro -- a remarkable lens.

In my opinion, narrow depth of field might not offer as much value here.
Weight and handling are more important.

E.g. hauling my Samyang 85mm f/1.4 for shooting street doesn't sound like a good idea unless there is a dire need of low T-stop.
I know everyone's tolerance to weight of the system is different, still this is something worth to consider.


PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't use my Bessa R2 lately but I wouldn't recommend to use non-coupled SLR lenses on that camera; particularly not in this focal length.

My compatible 90mm RF lenses for the Bessa are tested here: http://forum.mflenses.com/90mm-rf-lens-comparison-leitz-topcon-voigtlander-t80008.html
I think all existing 90mm RF lenses would be more than good enough.

However, I'm not a typical street shooter but I have my doubt's if 90mm is a good idea on a manual focus RF camera due to the rather shallow depth of field which requires very accurate focusing.


PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aidaho wrote:
cooltouch wrote:
If I were to consider 90mm as being in the middle of this general focal range, say from 80mm to 105mm, there are several good lenses I can think of that will work well.

Canon FD 85mm f/1.8
Canon FD 85mm f/1.2 L or Aspherical
Canon 100mm f/2.8
Nikon 85mm f/1.4, f/1.8 and f/2
Nikon 105mm f/2.5
Samyang 85mm f/1.4

And, of course, whenever I think 90mm, I think Tamron SP 90mm f/2.5 macro -- a remarkable lens.

In my opinion, narrow depth of field might not offer as much value here.
Weight and handling are more important.

E.g. hauling my Samyang 85mm f/1.4 for shooting street doesn't sound like a good idea unless there is a dire need of low T-stop.
I know everyone's tolerance to weight of the system is different, still this is something worth to consider.


I completely agree regarding size and weight. I was merely mentioning all sizes just to be complete. I personally own the Canon FD 85mm f/1.2 Aspherical, FD 85mm f/1.8, and Tamron SP 90mm f/2.5. And yes, while carrying the 85/1.8 or 90/2.5 would be much more practical for general street photography, there have been occasions when I've sucked it up and taken my 85 Aspherical out for a stroll -- and was very glad I did.


PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kypfer wrote:
An 85mm f/2 can be useful for isolating subjects in a crowd or selecting details in an otherwise empty environment.

The Jupiter 9 is widely available at a reasonable price, so might be worth a try. If you don't like it, no great loss or sell it on, if you do like it, use it until you can afford something even better Wink


A Jupiter-9 is very difficult to calibrate focus across the range with a Leica RF. The best I've gotten is 1.5m to infinity, that done by changing the spacing of the rear triplet to reduce focal length, then adjusting the main shim.

The rigid post-war 90/4 Elmar is a good choice, can be found under $100 in good condition. Small and light, the F4 aperture will make it usable on the Bessa R2.