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bychance
Joined: 24 Apr 2013 Posts: 345 Location: Kent, England
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:56 pm Post subject: Tamron Adaptalls |
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bychance wrote:
Simple question really, what would you say were the best Adaptall lenses back in the day?. _________________ I got where I am by avoiding where I was going.
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6627 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
105/2.5
Its about the same as the rare Adaptamatic 105/2.5
Not quite a Nikkor 105/2.5 especially in bokeh but quite close imho.
The 300/5.6 is worthwhile as a cheap and light 300mm. Don't pay too much for it, there are many alternatives, especially the Adaptamatic and fixed mount versions which are pretty much the same thing.
The rest are I think rather pedestrian. Decent enough in their day.
I am talking about first-gen adaptalls, not adaptall-2's. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1305 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
Of the early adaptalls the 80-250mm f3.8 zoom could be sniffed at for its glowy and contrast-lite performance at f3.8, and considered too big and heavy for convenience, but it's an interesting, perhaps even historic, lens, a premium lens of its time with a price equivalent to a four digit one today, and its performance stopped down is really rather impressive imo.
Online comment suggests the 38-100mm zoom has some quality. I've bid on a few but not enough to win (cos I'm so cheap...)
I prefer the v1 adaptall 300mm over the later CT300, comes with a tripod mount like the adaptamatic. _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
A classic zoom or two: VS1 (komine), Kiron Zoomlock... |
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kypfer
Joined: 27 Sep 2017 Posts: 518 Location: Jersey C.I.
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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kypfer wrote:
The only "original" Adaptall lens I've got (and used regularly until very recently) is the 200-500mm f/6.9. At over 2kg it really does need a tripod, or at least a monopod with a tilting head, but it does have a tripod mount fitted. Image quality is acceptable, probably more so when stopped down to f/8, the only inconvenient feature is the focus ring is at the front of the lens ... and it's a long reach! |
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Slalom
Joined: 10 Dec 2017 Posts: 152 Location: Stourbridge
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:42 am Post subject: |
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Slalom wrote:
If i am out cycling I carry the 24-48mm and 60-300mm Adaptall 2 SPs in a backpack as they are so solid, I don't worry about them |
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:04 am Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
70-150/2.8 soft: unique and very sharp.
300/2.8 360B, tc 2x 200F: very good iq. Cheaper than canikon.
Perhaps 180/2.5 but never use one.
Leica r 180/2.8 or nikon ais 180/2.8 ed are my preferences |
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justtorchit
Joined: 12 Oct 2009 Posts: 269 Location: St. Louis, MO
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:00 am Post subject: |
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justtorchit wrote:
If the Adaptall-2 stuff can be included, I'd highly recommend a few of those:
- 24-48mm: It's a pretty solid little performer, flare can be an issue. But it's so compact.
- 90mm f/2.5 (52B): great, smooth macro lens. Often can be found for little cost.
- 180mm f/2.5 (63B): I love this lens. It's quite sharp, with some noticeable CA wide open. I use it on my Nikons as well as via adapters on mirrorless (Sony A7iii, Fuji X-T2, and the Nikon Z7). I've used it for fun as well as in my professional work even today.
- 300mm f/2.8 (60B and 360B): This lens is one of the best bargains, in my opinion, for anyone in the market for a 300/2.8. I have used mine for sports as well as shooting live speaking performances, again, even in my professional work today. Like the 63B, it's plenty sharp, CA is present but generally not a factor in my experience. The 360B in good shape has a particularly exquisite manual focus experience. The focusing is whisper-smooth, with a single finger, and you can dial it in perfectly. The 60B has been optically similar but mechanically, not as refined in my experience.
- 400mm f/4 (65B) - Another hit, for me. Prices have fallen quite a bit on this one over the past number of years that I believe it's quite the bargain. Sharpness even wide open is very nice. As with all the big guns from the Adaptall-2 line, CA is present but disappears as you stop down quite quickly. And again, only really present in strong contrast scenarios. A beautiful lens when you want a little more reach.
Obviously I'm a fan of their bigger lenses. I would also add the 80-200/2.8 (30A) and the 200-500/5.6 (31A) are also a lot of fun and quite admirable performers. The latter is just enormous and a bit much to lug around in most cases. All of these optics are extremely well built.
I have some experience with the 28/2.8 (02B), the 135/2.5 Close-focus (03B), the 200/3.5 (04B), and probably a few others. My impression of these ranged from OK to poor. Fun to goof around with if you came across them for a few bucks maybe. Nothing I would doing anything beyond toy with though. The SP stuff on the other hand is some serious glass! _________________ David
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1305 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
Let's not forget two of the most successful adaptalls: the SP 01A 35-80mm and the "swiss army knife" SP 23A 60-300mm. _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
A classic zoom or two: VS1 (komine), Kiron Zoomlock... |
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MMouse
Joined: 18 Apr 2018 Posts: 58
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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MMouse wrote:
90mm f/2,5 macro is an excellent lens. Not the same optically as the newer AF versions, only 1:2 but it is wonderfully sharp and bokeh is great.
135mm f/2,5 is a good lens too, often cheap, bright and nice bokeh. |
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DConvert
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 902 Location: Essex UK
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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DConvert wrote:
I can't think of any of their SP range that disappoint.
I wouldn't try to select 'the best' far too wide a range of types each with their own merits. |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:01 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Justtorchit listed almost all of my favorites. In fact, he's mentioned most of my Tamron collection. The only ones I'd add are the SP 17mm f/3.5, the regular adaptall-2 24mm f/2.5, which to me should be an SP, and the SP 500mm f/8 mirror -- both versions. Oh, and the 60-300/3.8-5.4 is a surprisingly good performer. _________________ Michael
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Focusthrow
Joined: 12 Sep 2017 Posts: 209
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Focusthrow wrote:
DConvert wrote: |
I can't think of any of their SP range that disappoint.
I wouldn't try to select 'the best' far too wide a range of types each with their own merits. |
Agreed--I've used a many of them and was always delighted with the results. Best jt |
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