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Nordentro
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:49 pm Post subject: Prewar - Fed 50mm f/3.5 macro m39 mount PT5620 |
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Nordentro wrote:
Just bought a Prewar Fed 50mm macro. I don't expect much from this old lens, but does anybody have any experience with this old piece of glass? _________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no
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GP
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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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GP wrote:
Can you post a photo of the lens? (Haven't even seen one, only have a post-war version in M42, which is probably a different design.) _________________ Playing with digital cameras is fun.
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4710 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Here is the lens i bought:
_________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Will be excellent, for sure good as than same aged Leica, not sure it is pre-war or not. Congrats! _________________ -------------------------------
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GP
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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GP wrote:
Interesting. I have a very similar 100mm lens (similar shape, similar inscription), which was sold to me as a pre-war lens. Much heavier than later lenses, so that might be an indication that it is indeed pre-war (made of brass rather than aluminium).
So your lens is a MACRO, right? (Can't decipher that part of the inscription.) _________________ Playing with digital cameras is fun.
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4710 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
I found this info on USSRphoto.com:
"Special macro lens for the FED 1938/1939 production. This special lens is not rangefinder coupled but goes from infinity up to 1:1 scales in continuous focusing. The optics is the renowned Industar 10 3.5/50."
http://www.ussrphoto.com/wiki/default.asp?WikiCatID=87&ParentID=2&ContentID=457&Item=FED+macro+Industar+10 _________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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GP
Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Posts: 29
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:13 am Post subject: |
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GP wrote:
I just did some search on the net, too, and it seems that these three pre-war lenses are frequently mentioned:
1. the one you have, which is indeed a macro,
2. the f/6.3 100mm,
3. collapsible f/2 50.
There is also a rare f/4.5 28mm.
They say you've got to be careful with the thread as it was made to a different pitch than more recent ones.
As with old Leicas, the camera and lens had to be matched, because film-to-flange distance wasn't standardised.
Also:
'They do not RF focus. There are two scales one marked "M" that goes from 2 to 20 and a second marked "P" and "S" that goes from 1.5 to 105 .'
'There is a rangefinder like attachment that fits the accessory shoe, which focuses at fixed distances which are preset on the lens.'
Yeah, the question of close-focusing with a rangefinder camera is an interesting one.
Let us know if/when you got down to try it and made some pictures. Should be interesting. _________________ Playing with digital cameras is fun.
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4710 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:37 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
GP wrote: |
I just did some search on the net, too, and it seems that these three pre-war lenses are frequently mentioned:
1. the one you have, which is indeed a macro,
2. the f/6.3 100mm,
3. collapsible f/2 50.
There is also a rare f/4.5 28mm.
They say you've got to be careful with the thread as it was made to a different pitch than more recent ones.
As with old Leicas, the camera and lens had to be matched, because film-to-flange distance wasn't standardised.
Also:
'They do not RF focus. There are two scales one marked "M" that goes from 2 to 20 and a second marked "P" and "S" that goes from 1.5 to 105 .'
'There is a rangefinder like attachment that fits the accessory shoe, which focuses at fixed distances which are preset on the lens.'
Yeah, the question of close-focusing with a rangefinder camera is an interesting one.
Let us know if/when you got down to try it and made some pictures. Should be interesting. |
I will use it on my OM-D. I guess I will have the lens in a couple of weeks. I also have the 100mm, and it screws nicely into the adapter. I am also looking for the 28mm, but prices seem to be sky high
I will post samples straight from the camera when I get it!
It is the first macro lens I have ever had within the rangfinder segment
Thx for the digging!
Cheers Lars _________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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Attila
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Sound cool, all Russian pre-war is rare and valuable to collectors. _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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GP
Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Posts: 29
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:59 am Post subject: |
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GP wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
I will use it on my OM-D. I guess I will have the lens in a couple of weeks. I also have the 100mm, and it screws nicely into the adapter. I am also looking for the 28mm, but prices seem to be sky high
I will post samples straight from the camera when I get it!
It is the first macro lens I have ever had within the rangfinder segment
Thx for the digging!
Cheers Lars |
Great stuff! I'm looking forward to the results and what you learn from your experiments. _________________ Playing with digital cameras is fun.
When I get serious, I reach for one of my film cameras... |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4710 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Sound cool, all Russian pre-war is rare and valuable to collectors. |
I couldn't resist, I got a good price too I think _________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4710 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
GP wrote: |
Nordentro wrote: |
I will use it on my OM-D. I guess I will have the lens in a couple of weeks. I also have the 100mm, and it screws nicely into the adapter. I am also looking for the 28mm, but prices seem to be sky high
I will post samples straight from the camera when I get it!
It is the first macro lens I have ever had within the rangfinder segment
Thx for the digging!
Cheers Lars |
Great stuff! I'm looking forward to the results and what you learn from your experiments. |
I will update with samples as soon as I get it _________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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Nordentro
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:54 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Smallest macro lens I have and much better performance than expected from this old little lens
100% from above picture
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asterinex
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:11 am Post subject: |
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asterinex wrote:
Oh my goodness. This is sharp for such old lens.
Lovely rendering, contrast and bokeh.
What a find ! |
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Lloydy
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:00 am Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
Excellent results, that's a fine lens. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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std
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:10 am Post subject: |
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std wrote:
Wonderful lens it seems _________________ Stefan
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SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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philslizzy
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:17 am Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
WOW superb. well done getting this gem!! _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4710 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Yeah, very nice results for a 75 year old lens!
Looks like the USSR could make lenses even before the war:) _________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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Drack
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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Drack wrote:
Great results. I envy you a lot, because these pre-war lenses are my favorite lenses of the whole Russian arsenal. All of them where made very well. The F2/50mm FED is considered to be the best RF russian lens. It even outshines the Jupiter brothers. As for these macro lenses - they are rare , take my word for it ! _________________ I have many great Russian cameras and lenses for sale on my ebay account, please check it out: http://www.ebay.com/sch/piksius/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=25&_trksid=p3686
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M42 lense: Helios 44-2 , Helios 44-3, Helios 44m , Tair 3 Phs , Mir-1B , Jupiter-37a, Industar 50-2, Industar 61 L/Z, Tlear-N .
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4710 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Drack wrote: |
Great results. I envy you a lot, because these pre-war lenses are my favorite lenses of the whole Russian arsenal. All of them where made very well. The F2/50mm FED is considered to be the best RF russian lens. It even outshines the Jupiter brothers. As for these macro lenses - they are rare , take my word for it ! |
I was lucky, it was badly listed on Ebay! _________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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GP
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Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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GP wrote:
I just got to see your pictures. I had to gasp for air - the results are truly amazing! (Was that fly dead, or just very patient?
Now I wonder how it would compare with the 100mm lens. They say it's also quite sharp. _________________ Playing with digital cameras is fun.
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Nordentro
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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:23 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
GP wrote: |
I just got to see your pictures. I had to gasp for air - the results are truly amazing! (Was that fly dead, or just very patient?
Now I wonder how it would compare with the 100mm lens. They say it's also quite sharp. |
Thx, the fly was sunbathing in the evening sun
The 100mm is doing okey, it is a decent lens for its age but not as good as the postwar Canon Ltm 100mm or Pen f 100mm _________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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Nordentro
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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:23 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
_________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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Hari
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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:03 am Post subject: |
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Hari wrote:
What a cool find! The lens looks so cool and the images you posted are awesome!!
Congrats! _________________
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Nordentro
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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Hari wrote: |
What a cool find! The lens looks so cool and the images you posted are awesome!!
Congrats! |
Thx Hari, yes it was a surprise to me. I didn't really expect much
I still have your old Volna 9 too _________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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