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Tesselator
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:12 pm Post subject: Tamron SP 500mm F/8 (55BB) Mirror Lens |
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Tesselator wrote:
Feel free to post your images from the 55BB here if you'd like. Here's some from mine as seen through the GH1 µ4/3 camera:
The Lens.
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Tesselator
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Tesselator wrote:
Slightly artsy mod. :p
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Tesselator
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Tesselator
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Tesselator
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Tesselator
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Tesselator
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Tesselator wrote:
Jupiter and 4 of it's moons all visible in one shot - awesome! 100% Crop
Hand-held moon shot
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Tesselator
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Tesselator wrote:
100% Crop of the above. - Still can't see any of the Lunar-Rover's tire-tracks though, dang it!
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hoanpham
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inombrable
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:17 am Post subject: |
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inombrable wrote:
Jupiter and its moons, and the moon shot are very very pleasing.!!!
Thanks for sharing |
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fuzzywuzzy
Joined: 18 Dec 2010 Posts: 1258 Location: Down East, Canada, eh?
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:45 am Post subject: |
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fuzzywuzzy wrote:
There are many nice shots here, but I just noticed the moonshot was handheld at 1/125 and that's darned impressive. _________________ I welcome C&C, editing my pics and reposting them on the forum is fine.
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Tesselator
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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Tesselator wrote:
Nice shots hoanpham! I dug the bulldog shot and the cellphone reader!
Thanks for the compliments guys!
The hend-held moon isn't quite as impressive tho when you consider it's a digital camera. I mean so even though it's 1,000mm equiv on the GH1 I still get to try and try for free until I get a sharp one. I think I took four or five that night and just selected the one with the least amout of motion blur. Even so there was still a 1.5 or two pixel blur which you can still kinda see even after processing.
I want a cement pillar and about a 5,000mm lens so I can see all those glass structures that are supposed to be up there.
Or I wonder... how long a focal length would one need to be able to photograph an 18-wheel truck on the moon's surface? (given clear skies of course.) |
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sammo
Joined: 04 Jan 2012 Posts: 223 Location: CH and SI
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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sammo wrote:
That's really nice and sharp. Is this the "budget" mirror lens of choice? What prices do they get on ebay? I had in mind to find a nikkor 180mm f2.8 ...but maybe a 500mm would find more use as I don't have something longer than 200mm.
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Or I wonder... how long a focal length would one need to be able to photograph an 18-wheel truck on the moon's surface? (given clear skies of course.) |
Accually it's not related to focal lenght but to the diameter of a lens...more than 10 meters I estimated by a quick calculation |
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hoanpham
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:06 am Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
The nikkor 180/2.8 ais ED is a very good lens, totally different from the Tamron 55BB.
The 55BB might be cheaper than the nikkor, due to many factors. Both are in must-have category. |
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sammo
Joined: 04 Jan 2012 Posts: 223 Location: CH and SI
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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sammo wrote:
Yes, I know that they are very different...just mentioned which lens is on priority list to buy and I know it's a must have
Another question about sp 55bb...I know some mirrors need a rear filter to operate properly. Is this also the case with Tamron? Any other things to keep an eye on? |
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hoanpham
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
I think the 55b came with a set, but the 55bb was optional. My came with a clear uv filter back, but the case has room for a set. You may need a set if shoting film bw. Nothing i really need when using dslr. And i use pentax, it has very good in body shake reduction. |
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Jesito
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
Impressive is a really poor description! Awesome shots, specially the moon and jupiter ones.
Congrats, you're getting the most of this lens..
Jes. _________________ Jesito, Moderator
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sammo
Joined: 04 Jan 2012 Posts: 223 Location: CH and SI
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:31 am Post subject: |
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sammo wrote:
hoanpham wrote: |
I think the 55b came with a set, but the 55bb was optional. My came with a clear uv filter back, but the case has room for a set. You may need a set if shoting film bw. Nothing i really need when using dslr. And i use pentax, it has very good in body shake reduction. |
I'm stil not sure about my question. Is it mandatory to use a clear filter in the back?
I'm thinking of buying this lens, but it's only lens, no caps or filters, so I'm not sure if it's usable:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USED-TAMRON-SP-500MM-F8-LENS-bb55-/271016215470?pt=UK_Lenses_Filters_Lenses&hash=item3f19d343ae |
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hoanpham
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
sammo wrote: |
hoanpham wrote: |
I think the 55b came with a set, but the 55bb was optional. My came with a clear uv filter back, but the case has room for a set. You may need a set if shoting film bw. Nothing i really need when using dslr. And i use pentax, it has very good in body shake reduction. |
I'm stil not sure about my question. Is it mandatory to use a clear filter in the back?
I'm thinking of buying this lens, but it's only lens, no caps or filters, so I'm not sure if it's usable:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USED-TAMRON-SP-500MM-F8-LENS-bb55-/271016215470?pt=UK_Lenses_Filters_Lenses&hash=item3f19d343ae |
I have no conclusion about this.
As I read, all 55BB came factory installed with an UV clear filter, so I don't mind just let it there.
Others said that the filter may help reduce flare or internal reflection, but that's an extra glass to go through, wierd reason I think.
If I take the filter out from the lens, it will be lost. Better let it there, but i am too lazy to take it out when using the lens. |
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mo
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:12 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I had the 55BB and tried it without the rear filter and there seemed to be no difference...however I did not do extensive testing I just took it off shot with it and put it back.. I still have the 55B.
When they say no filters are they talking about the back filter or just they won't supply a front filter? _________________ Moira, Moderator
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Lloydy wrote:
I just bought one of these, with a X2 converter and OM adaptall, for £95 at a charity shop. I'm taking it back in the morning, it's a bad copy, soft and no contrast at all. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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cooltouch
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:16 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
fuzzywuzzy wrote: |
There are many nice shots here, but I just noticed the moonshot was handheld at 1/125 and that's darned impressive. |
Actually, the correct exposure for the moon is 1/125 at f/8 at ISO 100. Sometimes I'll use f/11 for a bit more contrast. Way too many people feel the need to overexpose the moon when they take pix of it. Just remember: it's reflecting sunlight.
Mo, I'm sure they're talking about the back filter.
I also own a 55BB. I haven't taken it out in quite a while. Time to exercise it again, I guess. Back later with some shots. _________________ Michael
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mo
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:37 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Lloydy wrote: |
I just bought one of these, with a X2 converter and OM adaptall, for £95 at a charity shop. I'm taking it back in the morning, it's a bad copy, soft and no contrast at all. |
Was there any obvious damage or fungus? _________________ Moira, Moderator
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sammo
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:49 am Post subject: |
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sammo wrote:
In theory the exposures estimated for daylight photography in direct sunlight should work for moon. The problem is just that the surface is "blacker" than coal, so you need to overexpose a few stops |
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cooltouch
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
sammo wrote: |
In theory the exposures estimated for daylight photography in direct sunlight should work for moon. The problem is just that the surface is "blacker" than coal, so you need to overexpose a few stops |
Um. not quite. The moon's surface albedo is 0.12, which means it reflects about 12% of the sun's light. Coal's albedo would be right at 0. For more info, see:
http://www.universetoday.com/19981/moon-albedo/
You are correct with your first statement, however. At ISO 100, bright sun exposure would be 1/125 at f/16. Opening up two stops to f/8 is correct exposure. Even f/11 will give good exposure of a full moon. Three stops to f/5.6 is overexposure, though, unless you're shooting with print film, in which case you might still be okay. Given that most all 500-600mm mirrors have a fixed f/8 aperture, though, shooting at 1/125 should give desirable results. Doing this hand-held, however, is difficult without revealing camera shake, unless one has a super-steady hand.
Taken with a 500mm Century Tele-Athenar II, one day past full moon, which I prefer because the slight sidelighting enhances the surface features, whereas photos of the full moon are often flat looking by comparison. 1/125 @ f/8. 100% crop. EOS DSLR mounted firmly on a stout tripod, using Live View to have the mirror up, which further minimizes vibration:
Incidentally, I've seen photos of the moon posted here that were taken with a Tamron 55BB, and which were surprisingly sharp. The 55BB is one of the best mirrors I've even come across. _________________ Michael
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