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Snodge
Joined: 01 Jan 2015 Posts: 163 Location: Bristol, UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:28 pm Post subject: Industar 50-2 f/3.5 |
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Snodge wrote:
I took my recently acquired Industar 50-2 f/3.5 lens for a quick test run yesterday. Here's a quick picture of this tiny weeny lens (taken with a 35mm Porst f/2.8 at ISO 1600 just for kicks!):
I tried a few different scenarios - first the bokeh:
Seems quite good to me, sometimes it seemed to get a bit busy, other times where you'd think it would look like a complete dogs dinner, it was fine.
The next one is shot directly into the sun:
There is some flare there, which is hardly surprising given the design of the lens. In fact, when taking this shot, when moving the focus ring you could see a pattern from the serrated edge. Definitely could benefit from a lens hood!
This next image is something just to show how well it handles a reasonably lit scene in the afternoon sun, pointing away from the sun this time:
I set this at the hyperfocal distance for f/8, so it's just slightly out of focus in the background.
Generally speaking, it seems quite a sharp lens at smaller apertures, the bokeh seems quite pleasant, and due to it's size, it is very light. All the above images were taken on a Canon 5D3 and exported from Lightroom with default settings.
Oh, and one more thing - this particular lens takes a 36mm push-on lens cap - the actual lens caps must have been terrible as the lenses on ebay never seem to come with them, so if anyone does want a cheap bargain lens and needs a lens cap, bear that in mind (also, I believe that the newer versions may use a different size for the cap!).
Thanks... _________________ Hugh
Camera bodies: Fujifilm X-E3 (digital), Praktika Super TL1000 (35mm film), Kershaw 450 (medium format 6x6 folder)
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Drack
Joined: 27 Feb 2011 Posts: 735 Location: Lithuania
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: Industar 50-2 f/3.5 |
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Drack wrote:
The first image is very nice, but in general, your copy lack contrast quite a bit. Most of my I-50-2 perform better. I once cleaned a copy that had a lot of fungus, and even though the fungus was completely gone, the results with it where similar to yours. Anyway, it is a very nice lens, I do recommend it to everyone . _________________ I have many great Russian cameras and lenses for sale on my ebay account, please check it out: http://www.ebay.com/sch/piksius/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=25&_trksid=p3686
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DSLR: Pentax K-x + 18-55 kit + f4 35-75mm
Mirrorless : Samsung NX-20 + 18-55 kit
M42 lense: Helios 44-2 , Helios 44-3, Helios 44m , Tair 3 Phs , Mir-1B , Jupiter-37a, Industar 50-2, Industar 61 L/Z, Tlear-N .
Currently using:
Minolta X-700 + MD f1.7/50mm + Rokkor-X f2.8/28mm + MD f3.5 35-70mm MACRO
Zorki-4K + J-8 f2/50mm + J-12 f2.8/35mm
EXA 1A + CZJ Tessar f2.8/50mm |
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Snodge
Joined: 01 Jan 2015 Posts: 163 Location: Bristol, UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Snodge wrote:
I think it's due to not having any coatings, so it's quite a low contrast lens. My Helios 44-2 also doesn't have any lens coatings, but there's something about these lenses that can make them work quite well in certain situations.
If I was posting up on Google+ I usually do some editing first (for example, this birch tree was also taken with the Industar 50-2 and it's been tweaked about with... _________________ Hugh
Camera bodies: Fujifilm X-E3 (digital), Praktika Super TL1000 (35mm film), Kershaw 450 (medium format 6x6 folder)
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:19 pm Post subject: Re: Industar 50-2 f/3.5 |
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Attila wrote:
Drack wrote: |
The first image is very nice, but in general, your copy lack contrast quite a bit. Most of my I-50-2 perform better. I once cleaned a copy that had a lot of fungus, and even though the fungus was completely gone, the results with it where similar to yours. Anyway, it is a very nice lens, I do recommend it to everyone . |
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Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Drack
Joined: 27 Feb 2011 Posts: 735 Location: Lithuania
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Drack wrote:
Snodge wrote: |
I think it's due to not having any coatings, so it's quite a low contrast lens. My Helios 44-2 also doesn't have any lens coatings, but there's something about these lenses that can make them work quite well in certain situations.
If I was posting up on Google+ I usually do some editing first (for example, this birch tree was also taken with the Industar 50-2 and it's been tweaked about with... |
Why don`t they have coating? Did somebody remove it ? _________________ I have many great Russian cameras and lenses for sale on my ebay account, please check it out: http://www.ebay.com/sch/piksius/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=25&_trksid=p3686
Forum members are olbigaded to a discount
DSLR: Pentax K-x + 18-55 kit + f4 35-75mm
Mirrorless : Samsung NX-20 + 18-55 kit
M42 lense: Helios 44-2 , Helios 44-3, Helios 44m , Tair 3 Phs , Mir-1B , Jupiter-37a, Industar 50-2, Industar 61 L/Z, Tlear-N .
Currently using:
Minolta X-700 + MD f1.7/50mm + Rokkor-X f2.8/28mm + MD f3.5 35-70mm MACRO
Zorki-4K + J-8 f2/50mm + J-12 f2.8/35mm
EXA 1A + CZJ Tessar f2.8/50mm |
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tromboads
Joined: 29 May 2012 Posts: 1782 Location: Melbourne AU
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:41 am Post subject: |
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tromboads wrote:
Scandal!
The 50-2 is such a wonderful little nugget of a thing. If I honestly only had to have one.. yeah ok it probably wouldn't be it, but heck... I suppose it's not difficult to clone a Tessar |
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Snodge
Joined: 01 Jan 2015 Posts: 163 Location: Bristol, UK
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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Snodge wrote:
Drack wrote: |
Why don`t they have coating? Did somebody remove it ? |
The lenses when they were made were just made without coatings. It keeps them cheap, and I guess it's after this that they started making more expensive lenses with coatings on that provided better contrast and helped to cut down on this like lens flare etc.
I think the Industar 50 and 50-2 lenses are around some of the cheapest you can get... _________________ Hugh
Camera bodies: Fujifilm X-E3 (digital), Praktika Super TL1000 (35mm film), Kershaw 450 (medium format 6x6 folder)
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Drack
Joined: 27 Feb 2011 Posts: 735 Location: Lithuania
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Drack wrote:
Snodge wrote: |
Drack wrote: |
Why don`t they have coating? Did somebody remove it ? |
The lenses when they were made were just made without coatings. It keeps them cheap, and I guess it's after this that they started making more expensive lenses with coatings on that provided better contrast and helped to cut down on this like lens flare etc.
I think the Industar 50 and 50-2 lenses are around some of the cheapest you can get... |
You are wrong. Both the I-50-2 and the Helios-44-2 have coating. I do not think they are multi-coated, but the coating is there. _________________ I have many great Russian cameras and lenses for sale on my ebay account, please check it out: http://www.ebay.com/sch/piksius/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=25&_trksid=p3686
Forum members are olbigaded to a discount
DSLR: Pentax K-x + 18-55 kit + f4 35-75mm
Mirrorless : Samsung NX-20 + 18-55 kit
M42 lense: Helios 44-2 , Helios 44-3, Helios 44m , Tair 3 Phs , Mir-1B , Jupiter-37a, Industar 50-2, Industar 61 L/Z, Tlear-N .
Currently using:
Minolta X-700 + MD f1.7/50mm + Rokkor-X f2.8/28mm + MD f3.5 35-70mm MACRO
Zorki-4K + J-8 f2/50mm + J-12 f2.8/35mm
EXA 1A + CZJ Tessar f2.8/50mm |
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Snodge
Joined: 01 Jan 2015 Posts: 163 Location: Bristol, UK
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Snodge wrote:
Drack wrote: |
Snodge wrote: |
Drack wrote: |
Why don`t they have coating? Did somebody remove it ? |
The lenses when they were made were just made without coatings. It keeps them cheap, and I guess it's after this that they started making more expensive lenses with coatings on that provided better contrast and helped to cut down on this like lens flare etc.
I think the Industar 50 and 50-2 lenses are around some of the cheapest you can get... |
You are wrong. Both the I-50-2 and the Helios-44-2 have coating. I do not think they are multi-coated, but the coating is there. |
Consider me mistaken! _________________ Hugh
Camera bodies: Fujifilm X-E3 (digital), Praktika Super TL1000 (35mm film), Kershaw 450 (medium format 6x6 folder)
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4748 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:11 am Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
I had an I-50 on my first Zenit. It was a truly awful lens, no contrast and terrible at the edges. Now with crop sensors we are losing all that terrible edge definition. I have a 1954 rangefinder version that came with a Zorki 2C which I intend to use to see if it is any better than the 1973 version. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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Drack
Joined: 27 Feb 2011 Posts: 735 Location: Lithuania
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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Drack wrote:
philslizzy wrote: |
I had an I-50 on my first Zenit. It was a truly awful lens, no contrast and terrible at the edges. Now with crop sensors we are losing all that terrible edge definition. I have a 1954 rangefinder version that came with a Zorki 2C which I intend to use to see if it is any better than the 1973 version. |
I`ve used multiple I-50 over my time collecting Russian gear, and I have to say, that there ar a LOT of difference in quality amongst them. The collapsible RF versions are very nice and capable lenses, whereas the majority of newer copies differ a lot. SLR versions of this lens differ the same, despite their age. However, it is still a wonderful lens. _________________ I have many great Russian cameras and lenses for sale on my ebay account, please check it out: http://www.ebay.com/sch/piksius/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=25&_trksid=p3686
Forum members are olbigaded to a discount
DSLR: Pentax K-x + 18-55 kit + f4 35-75mm
Mirrorless : Samsung NX-20 + 18-55 kit
M42 lense: Helios 44-2 , Helios 44-3, Helios 44m , Tair 3 Phs , Mir-1B , Jupiter-37a, Industar 50-2, Industar 61 L/Z, Tlear-N .
Currently using:
Minolta X-700 + MD f1.7/50mm + Rokkor-X f2.8/28mm + MD f3.5 35-70mm MACRO
Zorki-4K + J-8 f2/50mm + J-12 f2.8/35mm
EXA 1A + CZJ Tessar f2.8/50mm |
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RSalles
Joined: 12 Aug 2012 Posts: 1373 Location: Brazil - RS / South
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:03 am Post subject: |
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RSalles wrote:
tromboads wrote: |
Scandal!
The 50-2 is such a wonderful little nugget of a thing. If I honestly only had to have one.. yeah ok it probably wouldn't be it, but heck... I suppose it's not difficult to clone a Tessar |
On a first consideration,... Why to clone a Tessar - I mean a "real/original"Tessar design, not the google number variation of the original design.
And the second question: why not to clone a Tessar? A proven design, affordable to make, is like English as the 1st foreign language,
Best,
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aidaho
Joined: 29 Apr 2018 Posts: 456 Location: Ukraine
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 10:08 am Post subject: |
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aidaho wrote:
I saw this lens being sold for next to nothing, while on the trip.
Since I had my Helios with me, and as a consequence, M42-to-NEX adapter, thought might as well pick it up.
Moskvitch 2137 by Curry Hexagon, on Flickr
Industar 50-2 close up bokeh by Curry Hexagon, on Flickr
The lens in question was manufactured in 1980 and can sure benefit from a little maintenance. Seems like original grease is all gunked up.
The sharpness is not outstanding, but impressive even wide open.
Bokeh is nervous, wide open it has a touch of a swirly background.
Flares easily. Aperture is declicked.
This full frame lens weights less than its Sony E adapter (yeah, I've checked), yet still is able to deliver on modern camera. |
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miran
Joined: 01 Aug 2012 Posts: 1364 Location: Slovenia
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:26 am Post subject: |
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miran wrote:
Very nice. I have to take mine out for a walk some day. It's amazing how such a tiny little lens can actually produce more than decent photos. _________________ my flickr stream |
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