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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:33 pm    Post subject: Please help me identify this Soligor 135mm 2.8... Reply with quote
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I recently was given a Nikon Sp and with Nikon 28 and 35mm lenses. Interesting I was also given a Soligor 135mm 2.8. I don't recognize the mount, even after doing a Google search. Would anyone be able to help me out?


PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
We will try!


PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Please help me identify this Soligur 135mm 2.8... Reply with quote
oheuston wrote:
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I recently was given a Nikon Sp and with Nikon 28 and 35mm lenses. Interesting I was also given a Soligur 135mm 2.8. I don't recognize the mount, even after doing a Google search. Would anyone be able to help me out?


DOH!


PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
jamaeolus wrote:
We will try!


Unfortunately it seems that the image is not showing up, even though I attached it. Edit: Now it is showing up: )

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think that is a t4.


PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ditto. T4 interchangeable mount, with no mount.
You will have to look for a T4 mount or another T4 lens with a usable mount.
T4 lenses were sold under both the Soligor and Vivitar brands in the late 60's-early 70s.


PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
jamaeolus wrote:
I think that is a t4.


Would this adapter allow me to use the lens? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4P01R26929&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC-_-pla-_-Binoculars%2FTelescopes-_-9SIA4P01R26929&gclid=CjwKEAjwqpK8BRD7ua-U0orrgkESJADlN3YBNuBT-DtCR3Q8LzR7PIQN-14t8DX3R2hSpS5bABrsbRoChYrw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

And if it would work is this lens worth it? I would use it on my Nikon D800.


PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
luisalegria wrote:
Ditto. T4 interchangeable mount, with no mount.
You will have to look for a T4 mount or another T4 lens with a usable mount.
T4 lenses were sold under both the Soligor and Vivitar brands in the late 60's-early 70s.


Cool, are you saying that it is missing something, by saying no mount. I apologize for the stupid question. I am used to only my Nikon DSLR and Nikon SP lenses.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I would have said a TX mount but for all I know they are the same thing???


PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
T4 were interchangeable mount systems (one of several) The manufacturer would send lenses without adapters to retailers who would mount the appropriate mount at customer request. One (larger, more expensive ) lens and several different adapters (smaller less expensive). Look up t4 on ebay in cameras and lenses. I actually have a t4 mount on a soligor zoom that I would be willing to part with for a nominal fee. (The adapter is good the lens is just not very sharp).


PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
No, the Rokinon item listed is a T-mount, which is a earlier, simpler system used for lenses without aperture linkages, like bellows, microscope adapters, manual or preset lenses.
The T4 was a later development that included the aperture linkage.

This is a T4 mount -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vivitar-T4-TX-universal-bayonet-to-m42-Pentax-Praktica-screw-mount-Auto-adapter-/252456575306?hash=item3ac795a14a:g:p6oAAOSwRJ9Xgo5H

But its for a Pentax/Praktica/M42 mount. You will want one for Nikon.


PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
TX and T4 are very close. AFAIK you can use a T4 on a TX lens, but not always a TX on a T4 lens.
Member casualcollector has collections of all and knows it in detail I think.


PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
This is a Soligor lens with a Nikon T4 mount installed.
This is the most likely way to find a T4 mount, loose ones aren't that common, especially not in desirable mounts like Nikon.

This is a ridiculous asking price btw. This lens is worth under $30.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SOLIGOR-WIDE-AUTO-35MM-2-8-NIKON-MOUNT-LENS-/111178580312?hash=item19e2c28158:g:-g4AAOxyFjNSSE0W


PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
And here's a loose Nikon T4 adapter!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Soligor-Lens-Mount-to-Nikon-F-SLR-Camera-Very-Nice-/281964278050?hash=item41a6617122:g:LtUAAOSwr7ZW5Psz

Overpriced IMHO.


PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hmmm They must go pretty fast. It seems I looked a few weeks back and there were NOS listed in several mounts (not M42 which was what I was curious about) what IS it worth?


PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's best to stick to a Soligor mount on a Soligor lens, I have a Vivitar and Soligor in TX Mount and one will fit the other but not the other way around - I can't remember which at the moment - there is a topic somewhere here on the forums, I'll have to find it. And I have done a very simple modification to make them both interchangeable.

found the topic --

http://forum.mflenses.com/t4-tx-cross-compatibility-tx-nik-f-mount-on-a-t4-ok-t72052,highlight,%2Btx+%2Bmount.html




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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
luisalegria wrote:
And here's a loose Nikon T4 adapter!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Soligor-Lens-Mount-to-Nikon-F-SLR-Camera-Very-Nice-/281964278050?hash=item41a6617122:g:LtUAAOSwr7ZW5Psz

Overpriced IMHO.


I guess they can charge that because there is not a lot of demand. I don't think it is that bad considering I got the lens for free, it seems that there is no haze, fungus or scratches on the lens either.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lloydy wrote:
It's best to stick to a Soligor mount on a Soligor lens, I have a Vivitar and Soligor in TX Mount and one will fit the other but not the other way around - I can't remember which at the moment - there is a topic somewhere here on the forums, I'll have to find it. And I have done a very simple modification to make them both interchangeable.

found the topic --

http://forum.mflenses.com/t4-tx-cross-compatibility-tx-nik-f-mount-on-a-t4-ok-t72052,highlight,%2Btx+%2Bmount.html




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Thanks for finding the thread for me. If I bought the adapter the luisalegrai posted, how hard is it to install, and will it work on my Nikon D800 in aperture priority mode? I had read somewhere that non-ai lenses were not to be used with a DSLR.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Written more than ten years ago.

https://sites.google.com/site/casualcollectorproject/Home/lenses/t4-for-two

I have since added most of the TX lenses. You are best off using a T4 adapter on T4 lenses. From personal experience I know the Nikon AI TX adapter will not work on T4


PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
T4 user manual (pdf)

http://www.suaudeau.eu/memo/Manuels/Soligor_T4.pdf

Modding T4 mount to work with TX pentax Pk (and Nikon) mount:

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/10-pentax-slr-lens-discussion/311306-converting-t4-lenses-tx-k-mount-adapter.html


PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
oheuston wrote:

Thanks for finding the thread for me. If I bought the adapter the luisalegrai posted, how hard is it to install, and will it work on my Nikon D800 in aperture priority mode? I had read somewhere that non-ai lenses were not to be used with a DSLR.


It is a valid concern as some mounts can damage some Nikon cameras. I suggest you read these very carefully...

http://www.throughthefmount.com/articles_back_olderlenses_dslr.html
http://pindelski.org/Photography/2013/02/06/nikkor-ai-conversions-diy/


PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
woodrim wrote:

It is a valid concern as some mounts can damage some Nikon cameras. I suggest you read these very carefully...



I did some online reading on this to make sure I wasn't giving any misleading info on my adaptall web pages. My conclusion was that there is no concern with any of the adaptall nikon mounts, and I believe the T4/TX mounts also are no problem.
Note that there is a TX nikon AI mount. It's difficult to find though, most of the ones you'll see online are just the basic F mount.

http://www.tremyfoel.co.uk/photography/TX-UserManual.pdf


PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
marcusBMG wrote:
woodrim wrote:

It is a valid concern as some mounts can damage some Nikon cameras. I suggest you read these very carefully...



I did some online reading on this to make sure I wasn't giving any misleading info on my adaptall web pages. My conclusion was that there is no concern with any of the adaptall nikon mounts, and I believe the T4/TX mounts also are no problem.
Note that there is a TX nikon AI mount. It's difficult to find though, most of the ones you'll see online are just the basic F mount.

http://www.tremyfoel.co.uk/photography/TX-UserManual.pdf


So this would work then?: [url]
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Soligor-Lens-Mount-to-Nikon-F-SLR-Camera-Very-Nice-/281964278050?hash=item41a6617122:g:LtUAAOSwr7ZW5Psz[/url]

I would have to run it in Aperature Priority on my D800.


PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
casualcollector wrote:
Written more than ten years ago.

https://sites.google.com/site/casualcollectorproject/Home/lenses/t4-for-two

I have since added most of the TX lenses. You are best off using a T4 adapter on T4 lenses. From personal experience I know the Nikon AI TX adapter will not work on T4


Thanks, that was an interesting read.


PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
woodrim wrote:
oheuston wrote:

Thanks for finding the thread for me. If I bought the adapter the luisalegrai posted, how hard is it to install, and will it work on my Nikon D800 in aperture priority mode? I had read somewhere that non-ai lenses were not to be used with a DSLR.


It is a valid concern as some mounts can damage some Nikon cameras. I suggest you read these very carefully...

http://www.throughthefmount.com/articles_back_olderlenses_dslr.html
http://pindelski.org/Photography/2013/02/06/nikkor-ai-conversions-diy/


My wife would be so angry with me.
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