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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:10 pm    Post subject: Hexanon Presets Reply with quote

I have the 28/3.5 and 200/3.5 and not really interested in the longer lenses.
According to http://www.buhla.de/Foto/Konica/eHexanonUebersicht.html there are many others.
28/3.5 (7 elements in 6 groups)
35/2.8 ? I know there is an F mount version, I'm not positive but I don't think they made one in AR mount.
57/1.4 (6 elements in 5 groups) Has anyone seen this lens? Any picture of it? (Label: Konica Hexanon 57 mm 1:1.4 [Preset aperture Chrome ring No EE setting])
135/3.5 (4 elements in 4 groups)

200/3.5 (5 elements in 5 groups)
200/5.6 (6 elements in 4 groups)
400/4.5 (4 elements in 4 groups)
800/8 (2 elements in 1 group)

70-230/4.5 (13 elements in 8 groups) Two-touch zoom


PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Hexanon Presets Reply with quote

Lightshow wrote:
I have the 28/3.5 and 200/3.5 and not really interested in the longer lenses.
According to http://www.buhla.de/Foto/Konica/eHexanonUebersicht.html there are many others.
28/3.5 (7 elements in 6 groups)
35/2.8 ? I know there is an F mount version, I'm not positive but I don't think they made one in AR mount.
57/1.4 (6 elements in 5 groups) Has anyone seen this lens? Any picture of it? (Label: Konica Hexanon 57 mm 1:1.4 [Preset aperture Chrome ring No EE setting])
135/3.5 (4 elements in 4 groups)
200/3.5 (5 elements in 5 groups)
200/5.6 (6 elements in 4 groups)
400/4.5 (4 elements in 4 groups)
800/8 (2 elements in 1 group)
70-230/4.5 (13 elements in 8 groups) Two-touch zoom


The Hexanon AR preset lenses (ARP) are the 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 135/3.5, 200/3.5, 200/5.6 and the 70-230/4.5 zoom. The 400/4.5 and 800/8 are manual aperture lenses (ARM), not preset. Optically speaking, all 8 were carry overs from the F-mount days and remained in production until 1969. With the exception of the 28/3.5, they were also available as automatic lenses. The automatic version of the 28/3.5 was a different, smaller lens (it had a diameter of 55mm as opposed to 58mm diameter for the preset version). I have never seen or heard of a 57/1.4 preset or any other standard preset Hexanon. This must be a misunderstanding. While the lens you mention has no EE markings, it most probably has a little red dot where the letters EE would normally be. The very first AR-mount automatic lenses had a little dot like this. See here for more on this: https://sites.google.com/site/tks0en/6-technical-questions/-automatic-exposure-setting


PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Hexanon Presets Reply with quote

konicamera wrote:
Lightshow wrote:
I have the 28/3.5 and 200/3.5 and not really interested in the longer lenses.
According to http://www.buhla.de/Foto/Konica/eHexanonUebersicht.html there are many others.
28/3.5 (7 elements in 6 groups)
35/2.8 ? I know there is an F mount version, I'm not positive but I don't think they made one in AR mount.
57/1.4 (6 elements in 5 groups) Has anyone seen this lens? Any picture of it? (Label: Konica Hexanon 57 mm 1:1.4 [Preset aperture Chrome ring No EE setting])
135/3.5 (4 elements in 4 groups)
200/3.5 (5 elements in 5 groups)
200/5.6 (6 elements in 4 groups)
400/4.5 (4 elements in 4 groups)
800/8 (2 elements in 1 group)
70-230/4.5 (13 elements in 8 groups) Two-touch zoom


The Hexanon AR preset lenses (ARP) are the 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 135/3.5, 200/3.5, 200/5.6 and the 70-230/4.5 zoom. The 400/4.5 and 800/8 are manual aperture lenses (ARM), not preset. Optically speaking, all 8 were carry overs from the F-mount days and remained in production until 1969. With the exception of the 28/3.5, they were also available as automatic lenses. The automatic version of the 28/3.5 was a different, smaller lens (it had a diameter of 55mm as opposed to 58mm diameter for the preset version). I have never seen or heard of a 57/1.4 preset or any other standard preset Hexanon. This must be a misunderstanding. While the lens you mention has no EE markings, it most probably has a little red dot where the letters EE would normally be. The very first AR-mount automatic lenses had a little dot like this. See here for more on this: https://sites.google.com/site/tks0en/6-technical-questions/-automatic-exposure-setting



Got the 28,3.5 (7,6) and 35 2.8 as well...never found a preset 57 in either the all Caps nameplate or the later 50mm.

A lil off topic,on my 35mm 2.8 the focus sometimes turn without adjusting focus i usually have to press down and back almost to catch the gooves to focus.

Is it easy to tighten the focus on it? Mine is the version below.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You probably have loose screws behind the name plate.
You have a 35/2.8 in AR preset?


PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lightshow wrote:
You probably have loose screws behind the name plate.
You have a 35/2.8 in AR preset?


Hey thanks for the reply..i'm not sure i'll take a pic of it with the nameplate off.


PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lightshow wrote:
You probably have loose screws behind the name plate.
You have a 35/2.8 in AR preset?


Hi ,got a chance to take a few pics of the lens ,also with the nameplate off but i don't see any screws.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Hexanon Presets Reply with quote

Lightshow wrote:
I have the 28/3.5 and 200/3.5 and not really interested in the longer lenses.
According to http://www.buhla.de/Foto/Konica/eHexanonUebersicht.html there are many others.
35/2.8 ? I know there is an F mount version, I'm not positive but I don't think they made one in AR mount.


I got all version 35/2.8 of Konica,that has two types Preset hexanons.
one in F-mount and s/n start with 814XXXX
another one in AR mount and s/n start with 821XXXX









PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I missed your post, nice collection! Thanks for posting.
I really wish there were more high-end preset lenses, most seem to be 3rd party, and there are few full sets of them, Topcon, Konica and Asahi Pentax for example skip many common focal lengths.

A travesty, IMO.

If you have an extra 35 preset in AR, I would be interested.


PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just came across this https://nl.kentfaith.com/mount_22

28/2.8 preset AR
35/2.8 preset F & AR
100/2.8 preset F
135/3.5 preset F & AR
200/3.5 preset F & AR
400/4.5 manual F
800/8 manual F

I think I got this right....
I now think the 57/1.4 preset on http://www.buhla.de is an error.


Last edited by Lightshow on Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:21 pm; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lightshow wrote:
Just came across this https://nl.kentfaith.com/mount_22

28/2.8 preset AR
35/2.8 preset F & AR
100/2.8 preset F
135/3.5 preset F & AR
200/3.5 preset F & AR
400/4.5 preset F
800/8 preset F

I think I got this right....
I now think the 57/1.4 preset on http://www.buhla.de is an error.


Yes, I agree that it is an error. In some 40 years during which I've been playing with Konica SLR lenses, I have yet to see a standard one (50mm to 57mm) in preset form, in either the F or AR mount. There is no mention of any in Konica literature either (if the hundreds of flyers, brochures, dealer fact sheets, etc. are any indication).
There are some errors and omissions on the site you mention: the 400/4.5 and 800/8.0 were manual aperture lenses, not preset, and oth were available in both mounts. There is a early F-mount lenses brochures on Butkus' site: https://www.butkus.org/chinon/konica/konica_hexanon_lenses/konica_hexanon_lenses.htm
Incidentally, it is interesting that the site you mention lists F-mount Konica lenses. Do they make or intend to make adapters for them? That would be very welcome....
Buy up the F-mount stuff before the adapters show up Wink


PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.buhla.de also lists the 400mm as manual and preset, so I thought it could be correct, but you are far more knowledgeable than I about Konica. I've corrected the post to list them as manual.
The preset normals in general seem to be less common than wide or long focal lengths, they mostly seem to be the first auto lenses in the lineup.

I thought it was a personal site... Now I see it is a commercial site, here's the English version https://www.kentfaith.com/mount_22
I'll give him/them a shout and see if they are making one.