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sergun
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 Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:35 am Post subject: 40-45mm for FE (A7R) to 150$ |
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sergun wrote:
Looking for a lens 40-45mm (best closer to 40mm) for Sony FE to photograph people close-up. For consideration were and were rejected (did not like the background) Rokkor 45/2 , Voigtlander Ultron 40/2, Konica 40mm f1.8. Something else ? Possible alteration from rangefinder cameras such as Yashinon 40mm F1.7 or Olympus 42mm F1.7 or others.
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e6filmuser
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e6filmuser wrote:
Kiron lenses are very good e.g.
http://allphotolenses.com/lenses/item/c_4187.html
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folderholder
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folderholder wrote:
The 45mm f/2 Rokkor is a really nice lens optically. I did a few quick comparisons to my 45mm Zeiss Tessar. At infinity the Rokkor has slightly better resolution, but is a little less contrasty than the Zeiss. I am not a fan of a five blade aperture, however.
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Sjak
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Sjak wrote:
I have 4 different 40mm lenses at this moment.
The Zeiss Biotar 40mm 2.0 in Robot-mount would be the least recommended, I don't really like the ergonomics.
For very cheap, you can get the tiny Lomo Triplet 40mm 4.0, M39-mount, delivers nice colours + vintage rendering, and can be had very cheaply (it comes from the Smena camera) Not sure about minimum focus distance though, I think 1 meter, but a helicoid adapter can help here.
There's the Pentax-M 40mm 2.8 pancake, but like the minlota 45, it also has 5 aperture blades, so probably you will not like that either.
Above your budget is the Summicron-C 40mm. With patience, it can be found around $350 or so. There's also a Minolta (near-) twin of this lens, but that is not super-cheap either. |
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stevemark
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:17 am Post subject: Re: 40-45mm for FE (A7R) to 150$ |
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stevemark wrote:
| sergun wrote: |
| Looking for a lens 40-45mm (best closer to 40mm) for Sony FE to photograph people close-up. For consideration were and were rejected (did not like the background) Rokkor 45/2 , Voigtlander Ultron 40/2, Konica 40mm f1.8. Something else ? Possible alteration from rangefinder cameras such as Yashinon 40mm F1.7 or Olympus 42mm F1.7 or others. |
Simple question: why 40-45mm? If 45mm is OK, i would not hesitate to accept a lens in the 50mm range. And if 40mm is OK, why not a 35mm (those SLR 35mm lenses often are closer to to 36mm or even 37mm)?
In both ranges (50mm and 35mm) there are so much more options, some of them having a nice bokeh ... 
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Nice bokeh would be the Flektogon 2.4/35, imho the best 35mm for bokeh and at close distances such as people shots it's superb.
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Raxar wrote:
2 years ago you could get a mint Zeiss Planar 45/2 RF for less than 200$! but it gone up to 400$ nowadays  |
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Mir
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Mir wrote:
Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar 4,5/40 T
∅49 - 10 blades - MFD 40cm
Chrome brass - solid build
Ones in Exakta mount are in your price range.
Mine was from 1953
They're wonderful lenses imho
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Ernst Dinkla
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: 40-45mm for FE (A7R) to 150$ |
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Ernst Dinkla wrote:
| sergun wrote: |
| Looking for a lens 40-45mm (best closer to 40mm) for Sony FE to photograph people close-up. For consideration were and were rejected (did not like the background) Rokkor 45/2 , Voigtlander Ultron 40/2, Konica 40mm f1.8. Something else ? Possible alteration from rangefinder cameras such as Yashinon 40mm F1.7 or Olympus 42mm F1.7 or others. |
Canon EF STM 40mm 2.8 if you already have an MC-11 adapter or similar. 1' minimum focusing distance. Circular 7 blades diaphragm. Hybrid Plasmat/Double-Gauss optical design.
Better than the compact lens Canonet 45mm 1.9 lens converted for EF.
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marcusBMG wrote:
A tamron SP adaptall 35-80mm f2.8-3.8 zoom might suit you. Exceptional, fast MF zoom, naturally warm rendering for portraiture. Certainly better than the kiron mentioned above.
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thebbm
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thebbm wrote:
| Raxar wrote: |
| 2 years ago you could get a mint Zeiss Planar 45/2 RF for less than 200$! but it gone up to 400$ nowadays |
this lens is pretty expensive since many years, at least in europe. I sold mine for 350e 6 years ago
all vintage lenses become more and more expensive since 5/6 years because of mirroless i think |
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Gardener
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: 40-45mm for FE (A7R) to 150$ |
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Gardener wrote:
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| Canon EF STM 40mm 2.8 |
What he said. |
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sergun
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: 40-45mm for FE (A7R) to 150$ |
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| Simple question: why 40-45mm?Stephan |
Good question. ) A good versatile 35mm focal. My fixes only Loxia 35mm. For me it is easy to ride but when it comes to everyday images of its side I don't like. Although I often use the 50mm , I would like to have something a little wider.
Thank you all for your answers.
Loxia 35mm
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pdccameras wrote:
Here are two options:
1) STEINHEIL 40mm F3.5 CASSARON (available fairly readily available in your price range in the US in M42 and Exakta mount).
2) KODAK 44mm f/4.5 Anastar from the Flash Bantam (Sony adapter for this lens is readily available on eBay, as are the flash bantam cameos) you can get both for under $70 US and the conversion is fast and simple)
Best,
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Lightshow
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Lightshow wrote:
Sadly 40-45mm is far too neglected.
Contax G 45/2
Canon FLP 38mm
Voigtländer 40/1.4
Voigtländer ULTRON 40/2
Minolta/Leica M 40/2
Leica Elmarit-C 40/2.8
Super Rokkor 45/2.8
Contax 45/2.8 C/Y
Konica 40/1.8
SMC Pentax-L 43m1.9 Special LTM
Rollei 40mm/f2.8 HFT Sonnar
Meyer-Optik Görlitz Helioplan 40/4.5
Olympus Pen F 38/1.8
Olympus Pen F 40/1.4
Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar 40/4.5
There are also some small zooms that might do.
https://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/SMC-Pentax-A-24-50mm-F4-Zoom-Lens.html
https://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/pentaxa2450
 Pentax 24-50 A\M F4 by Chris Dane, on Flickr
https://www.flickr.com/photos/zzeitg/30397502860/
Hmmm looks good, I may have to find one. Anyone have pics?
Just found some shots on an A7r
https://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/a2450f4
Yashica ML Zoom 42-75/3.5-4.5
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stevemark
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:55 am Post subject: Re: 40-45mm for FE (A7R) to 150$ |
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stevemark wrote:
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| Simple question: why 40-45mm?Stephan |
Good question. ) A good versatile 35mm focal. My fixes only Loxia 35mm. For me it is easy to ride but when it comes to everyday images of its side I don't like. Although I often use the 50mm , I would like to have something a little wider.
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OK, i can understand that somehow - although my preferences are just the other way round: I do use 50mm, but I often prefer a 55mm or a 60mm like the MC 1.2/58 or the MC 1.4/58 (both lenses in reality being around 60mm).
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Raxar
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Raxar wrote:
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| Raxar wrote: |
| 2 years ago you could get a mint Zeiss Planar 45/2 RF for less than 200$! but it gone up to 400$ nowadays |
this lens is pretty expensive since many years, at least in europe. I sold mine for 350e 6 years ago
all vintage lenses become more and more expensive since 5/6 years because of mirroless i think |
if you only consider the lens yeah may be you're right but i found them with G1 body for 250-300$ 2 or 3 years ago. |
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