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Some fun with Jupiter 8M
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:43 am    Post subject: Some fun with Jupiter 8M Reply with quote

On Fujifilm X-E1
OH



Wide open at f2


Closed down to f8



PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice photos. What mount was on this lens? Kiev?


PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uddhava wrote:
Nice photos. What mount was on this lens? Kiev?


Thank you.
Yes it is Kiev mount I think.
This one anyway.
OH



PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a Kiev mount indeed.
It meens that you have an adaptater which allows the focusing, doesn't it ?

I am still waiting for such an adapter for NEX with a reasonnable price in order to use my Kiev J8 on an A7.
The construction of the Kiev ( ex Contax) version is more solid than the L39 one. I ask myself if the optical quality is not also better.
Your lens seems to be very good


PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

memetph wrote:
It is a Kiev mount indeed.
It meens that you have an adaptater which allows the focusing, doesn't it ?

I am still waiting for such an adapter for NEX with a reasonnable price in order to use my Kiev J8 on an A7.
The construction of the Kiev ( ex Contax) version is more solid than the L39 one. I ask myself if the optical quality is not also better.
Your lens seems to be very good

Well, yes it does need an adapter and I thought that I would make one.
Three parts - modified Fujifilm camera adapter + helicoid + M39-M42 ring glued to the lens.
Here are the pictures.
OH







PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

memetph wrote:
It is a Kiev mount indeed.
It meens that you have an adaptater which allows the focusing, doesn't it ?

I am still waiting for such an adapter for NEX with a reasonnable price in order to use my Kiev J8 on an A7.
The construction of the Kiev ( ex Contax) version is more solid than the L39 one. I ask myself if the optical quality is not also better.
Your lens seems to be very good


The optical quality must be the same as the optical construction is identical, just the mount is different.
However, the Jupiter-8 in LTM is also rather cheap.
At least far cheaper than the Kiev version PLUS adapter. Wink

Click here to see on Ebay


PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tb_a wrote:
memetph wrote:
It is a Kiev mount indeed.
It meens that you have an adaptater which allows the focusing, doesn't it ?

I am still waiting for such an adapter for NEX with a reasonnable price in order to use my Kiev J8 on an A7.
The construction of the Kiev ( ex Contax) version is more solid than the L39 one. I ask myself if the optical quality is not also better.
Your lens seems to be very good


The optical quality must be the same as the optical construction is identical, just the mount is different.
However, the Jupiter-8 in LTM is also rather cheap.
At least far cheaper than the Kiev version PLUS adapter. Wink

Click here to see on Ebay


Yes, quite likely.
In my case, I already had the helicoid in M42 which I use for several lenses.
I also had a couple of adapters that were essentially free.
The Fujifilm adapter was one that started as a Konica AR adapter but was wrongly machined at the factory and was replaced. It formed the base for this little project.
Its mount plate was removed, and after reducing its register distance, an M42 for Nikon adapter was added in its place. I used this because I had one lying around and it was not useful otherwise.
So my adapter cost me nothing really but time and effort.
Hence the fun.
OH


PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are quite a lot variations in the quality of the L39 version ( I have many of them).
The Kiev one , keeping the mecanical sructure of the Zeiss original , might perhaps be more constant.
It is just a question.


PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are some further images from mine today.
It is OK I think.
OH



Wide open:


f8


PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crop from above:



PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldhand wrote:
M39-M42 ring glued to the lens


that's a new idea!
now you don't need a $100 inner flange adapter for just one lens

Like Dog


PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kansalliskalaCafe wrote:
Oldhand wrote:
M39-M42 ring glued to the lens


that's a new idea!
now you don't need a $100 inner flange adapter for just one lens

Like Dog


Hahaha, I often think that I have had an original idea, only to find that it has been often used before.
I am so glad that this one of mine might just be original.
Like Dog


PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice work on the adaptation.

I have several J8s for Kiev, one of my favourite lenses. I also have a couple of original Zeiss Sonnars they are copied from.

I have had two J8Ms for Kiev, and they are slightly different. They made a small change in the optical formula to ease production.

Neither of the J8Ms I had was as sharp as the earlier J8s, but the difference wasn't much and could have been due to sample variation.


PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are some examples I just shot with my M39/LTM version of this lens and my Ricoh GXR-M. The lens was made by KMZ in 1962.
The flower and the puppet are made with a 7mm extension ring. All at medium aperture. For the puppet a flash was used.
BTW, the lens is heavily prone to flare. I've used the Industar shade fixed with adhesive tape. Otherwise the outdoor shots wouldn't have been possible. The Leica type shade wasn't good enough to block out flare completely.





All in all I must say that this lens isn't bad at all. Especially the infinity landscape at F5.6 is surprisingly very sharp and contrasty.
But once again: A proper lens shade is mandatory.


PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes a lens shade is a good idea.
Here is one more from this lens.
Very pleasing for such a cheap optic.
OH



PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldhand wrote:
Yes a lens shade is a good idea.
Here is one more from this lens.
Very pleasing for such a cheap optic.
OH


Yes it is, nice photo.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you uddhava.
This Kiev mount lens is much much cheaper to acquire than the threaded version and also seems to be made of brass - certainly not aluminium barrel.
I am really liking this little gem.
Here are some more images to share.
OH

Wide open at f2 it is soft - must try it at f2 for ladies portrait


at f5.6

at f4 I think




PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldhand wrote:
Thank you uddhava.
This Kiev mount lens is much much cheaper to acquire than the threaded version and also seems to be made of brass - certainly not aluminium barrel.]


Locally, I mostly only seen them on cameras, although I was able to buy a not so good threaded one with no camera. I should put it on my Zorki and try it out!


PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uddhava wrote:
Oldhand wrote:
Thank you uddhava.
This Kiev mount lens is much much cheaper to acquire than the threaded version and also seems to be made of brass - certainly not aluminium barrel.]


Locally, I mostly only seen them on cameras, although I was able to buy a not so good threaded one with no camera. I should put it on my Zorki and try it out!


Yes, I think that you will enjoy using it.
Interestingly, even though a shade is always useful with a lens, mine does not seem as prone to flare as other users seem to find.
OH



PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, as promised, here is a portrait done with the Jupiter 8M, and another shot of my grandchildren at play.
OH




PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The J8 is a really nice lens. I had the J8 and the J3 (1.5/50) and sold the faster one keeping the J8.


PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice!


PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gratias amigos.
Of course it also handles colour.
OH



PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldhand wrote:
...
Of course it also handles colour.
...


It does it very well. Nice samples!.


PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I encountered a hot-rod gathering in town today and happened to have the Jupiter 8M on the camera.
here are some pictures.
Tom


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