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kievuser
Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 551
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:01 am Post subject: Canon FD 35/2 chrome nose question |
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kievuser wrote:
Hi,
I bought a Canon FD chrome nose 35/2 again today. So I have two of these with the new one in much better condition. The old one s/n is 10756 and today's lens s/n is 21864, and both have concave front element. I felt the new one is heavy and then measured them. The new one is 100 grams heavier! The chrome ring did not go out when focusing and its rubber focusing grip is a little nerrower. I will post images to show you what I mean. I am not sure if this has been discussed before. Your input will be appreciated.
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Zhang |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3754 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: Canon FD 35/2 chrome nose question |
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stevemark wrote:
kievuser wrote: |
Hi,
I bought a Canon FD chrome nose 35/2 again today. So I have two of these with the new one in much better condition. The old one s/n is 10756 and today's lens s/n is 21864, and both have concave front element. I felt the new one is heavy and then measured them. The new one is 100 grams heavier! The chrome ring did not go out when focusing and its rubber focusing grip is a little nerrower. I will post images to show you what I mean. I am not sure if this has been discussed before. Your input will be appreciated.
Cheers,
Zhang |
There are, in fact, three known variants of the FD 2/35mm chrome nose.
1) SN 10001-12199 (chrome nose moves outward when focusing!)
2) SN 12200-20000
3) SN 20000-50000 (in this range we have both chome nose and black)
Obviously, version 1 and version 2 have different mechanics; I didn't know that their weight isn't the same, though!
Stephan _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Different mechanics or no, is the optical formula the same for all the breechlock 35mm f/2 lenses? It sounds like v1 and v2 may be different? _________________ Michael
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casualcollector
Joined: 01 Aug 2008 Posts: 748 Location: Spaced out on Florida's Space Coast
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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casualcollector wrote:
I have a black nose ssc convex front and have seen a black nose ssc concave. _________________ In Search Of "R" Serial Soligors
Found: 135/2.8 #R407660, 200/4 #R405526, 300/5.5 #R411127 |
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kievuser
Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 551
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: Canon FD 35/2 chrome nose question |
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kievuser wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
kievuser wrote: |
Hi,
I bought a Canon FD chrome nose 35/2 again today. So I have two of these with the new one in much better condition. The old one s/n is 10756 and today's lens s/n is 21864, and both have concave front element. I felt the new one is heavy and then measured them. The new one is 100 grams heavier! The chrome ring did not go out when focusing and its rubber focusing grip is a little nerrower. I will post images to show you what I mean. I am not sure if this has been discussed before. Your input will be appreciated.
Cheers,
Zhang |
There are, in fact, three known variants of the FD 2/35mm chrome nose.
1) SN 10001-12199 (chrome nose moves outward when focusing!)
2) SN 12200-20000
3) SN 20000-50000 (in this range we have both chome nose and black)
Obviously, version 1 and version 2 have different mechanics; I didn't know that their weight isn't the same, though!
Stephan |
Stephen, I see you are an FD expert! Many thanks! |
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kievuser
Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 551
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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kievuser wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
Different mechanics or no, is the optical formula the same for all the breechlock 35mm f/2 lenses? It sounds like v1 and v2 may be different? |
usually, a later version of the same lens is lighter. But the case for FD 35/2 is strange.100 grames for a lens like this is a big portion. |
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2106 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Canon's documentation says it weighs 420g, but mine is 508g (SN 25352). So almost 90g heavier, that is a bit unusual.
Canon does not mention anything about this weight difference. _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6627 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Interesting to compare the likely unit count vs say Nikon.
The Nikon equivalent 35/2 lens (to 1981) seems to have over 300,000 units made, 4x Canon.
A good indicator of how much ground Nikon has lost to Canon since the 1980s. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6008 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: Canon FD 35/2 chrome nose question |
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Oldhand wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
kievuser wrote: |
Hi,
I bought a Canon FD chrome nose 35/2 again today. So I have two of these with the new one in much better condition. The old one s/n is 10756 and today's lens s/n is 21864, and both have concave front element. I felt the new one is heavy and then measured them. The new one is 100 grams heavier! The chrome ring did not go out when focusing and its rubber focusing grip is a little nerrower. I will post images to show you what I mean. I am not sure if this has been discussed before. Your input will be appreciated.
Cheers,
Zhang |
There are, in fact, three known variants of the FD 2/35mm chrome nose.
1) SN 10001-12199 (chrome nose moves outward when focusing!)
2) SN 12200-20000
3) SN 20000-50000 (in this range we have both chome nose and black)
Obviously, version 1 and version 2 have different mechanics; I didn't know that their weight isn't the same, though!
Stephan |
Is there perhaps a version 4?
Mine has serial number 55527 - black nose of course.
Tom |
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kievuser
Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 551
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:23 am Post subject: Re: Canon FD 35/2 chrome nose question |
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kievuser wrote:
Oldhand wrote: |
stevemark wrote: |
kievuser wrote: |
Hi,
I bought a Canon FD chrome nose 35/2 again today. So I have two of these with the new one in much better condition. The old one s/n is 10756 and today's lens s/n is 21864, and both have concave front element. I felt the new one is heavy and then measured them. The new one is 100 grams heavier! The chrome ring did not go out when focusing and its rubber focusing grip is a little nerrower. I will post images to show you what I mean. I am not sure if this has been discussed before. Your input will be appreciated.
Cheers,
Zhang |
There are, in fact, three known variants of the FD 2/35mm chrome nose.
1) SN 10001-12199 (chrome nose moves outward when focusing!)
2) SN 12200-20000
3) SN 20000-50000 (in this range we have both chome nose and black)
Obviously, version 1 and version 2 have different mechanics; I didn't know that their weight isn't the same, though!
Stephan |
Is there perhaps a version 4?
Mine has serial number 55527 - black nose of course.
Tom |
I did a search on the internet, and by weight, there are at least 4 versions:
"Brief Specification for Canon 35mm f/2.0 early version.:- Optical Construction: 9 elements in 8 groups No. of Diaphragm Blades:- 8 Minimum Aperture:- 16; Closest Focusing Distance (m) 0.3 Maximum Magnifcation:- 0.194X Filter attachment size:- 55mm Maximum Diameter x Length:- 64mm x 60mm; :- 420g (67mm x 60mm; :- 370g - S.S.C. version)
Focusing: Helicoid Minimum aperture: f/22 .A
Diaphragm: Automatic Filter Size. 52mmHood: BW-52A Cap: C-52
Function: Auto Aperture, Full aperture metering (AE operation when used with ALL Canon automatic SLR cameras.
Length x max. diameter: 46mm x 63mm
Weight: 245g"
Now we have 508 grams. |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:36 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Hmm, I didn't realize that the chrome nose had more versions, I have the SSC concave, and always wanted an chrome nose 35/2 too go with the other chrome nose lenses I have. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
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kievuser
Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 551
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:14 am Post subject: |
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kievuser wrote:
koji wrote: |
Canon's documentation says it weighs 420g, but mine is 508g (SN 25352). So almost 90g heavier, that is a bit unusual.
Canon does not mention anything about this weight difference. |
I weighed mine without both caps, the 1st version is 410g, and sn 21864 is 510g.Their sizes are not the same, SN 10756 is 64mm, SN 21864 is 67mm. The rubber grip size is 19mm vs 22mm (10756).
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kievuser
Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 551
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:27 am Post subject: |
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kievuser wrote:
Lightshow wrote: |
Hmm, I didn't realize that the chrome nose had more versions, I have the SSC concave, and always wanted an chrome nose 35/2 too go with the other chrome nose lenses I have. |
I also have other chrome nose lenses. My SN 21025 FD 50/1.4's chrome ring goes out when focusing to reveal its true face.I would like to collect a few more chrome nose lenses as these have a more solid feel.
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Marek
Joined: 13 Apr 2014 Posts: 903 Location: In the heart of Europe
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Marek wrote:
Joined the chromenose family, guys.
My s/n is 13.089 so if anyone does know the year of production I'll be more than happy to hear
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Look at the rear for the code.
Here's my lenses:
http://alanwatsonforster.org/writing/canon-fd-lens-date-codes.html
28/3.5 sn30563 date code: M207 [1972 Feb]
35/3.5 sn27396 date code: M206 [1972 Feb]
50/1.4 sn125002 date code: M210 [1972 Feb]
50/1.8 sn265758 date code: M803 [1972 Aug]
135/3.5 sn27786 date code: L904 [1971 Sept]
I wish Canon made a chrome nose 85.
I'm looking for 24/2.8, 35/2, 100/2.8, preferably M code.
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Just found this site: https://www.lummukka.com/canonfd35.html
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