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dr.volkan
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:00 pm Post subject: Mamiya sekor 200/3.5 sharpest 200mm is it? |
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dr.volkan wrote:
Today i use my old mamiya sekor 200/3.5
With my samsung nx3000
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papasito
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
Great lens,. Probably made by Tokina.
This is known because the IQ
Which of the three versions do you have? Based on http://mamiya-nc-m42.mflenses.com/m42_lenses.htm |
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dr.volkan
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:03 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Nice shots, and good to know. I bought a Mamiya Sekor 200/3.5 a while back just to have a 200mm for my M42 cameras, figuring that a Mamiya lens would be a good choice. I paid next to nothing for it. But you know, after I bought it, I just put it in my photo gear storage cabinet. I haven't even tried it out yet. Guess I need to do something about that, especially after seeing your shots. _________________ Michael
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D1N0
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:58 am Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
I have a Tokina 200mm F3.5 But my Takumar 200mm 3.5 is sharper and so is my Jupiter 21M
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papasito
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
And, in order with the 200 mm lenses mentioned here, what about the IQ of the MD minolta 200/4 and the last canon nfd 200/4? |
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tb_a
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
papasito wrote: |
And, in order with the 200 mm lenses mentioned here, what about the IQ of the MD minolta 200/4 and the last canon nfd 200/4? |
Cannot say anything about Canon as I don't own any Canon lens. However, the Minolta MD 200mm/F4 which I have in the latest MD II version which is identical to the MD III version is an excellent performer already wide open. In comparison to the Takumar 200mm/F3.5 which has been mentioned here before it's slightly better in terms of CA correction. In terms of sharpness they are quite similar.
Example of the Minolta MD 200mm/F4 fully open:
My best lens in 200mm at least in terms of CA correction is the Leitz Telyt 200mm/F4 (Visoflex version) which can be considered as an "APO"-lens in that respect:
Example fully open as well:
Stephan from Artaphot who tested a lot more different lenses in this focal length rates the Minolta one as one of the best. I only have 4 different 200mm primes for comparison and nothing from Canikon at all. However, he didn't say anything about the Leitz Telyt up to now.
Finally I can say that my Minolta AF 80-200mm/F2.8 HS APO zoom beats them all at 200mm, at least in "pixel peeping mode". _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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dr.volkan
Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 436 Location: Turkey_istanbul
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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dr.volkan wrote:
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papasito
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
tb_a wrote: |
papasito wrote: |
And, in order with the 200 mm lenses mentioned here, what about the IQ of the MD minolta 200/4 and the last canon nfd 200/4? |
Cannot say anything about Canon as I don't own any Canon lens. However, the Minolta MD 200mm/F4 which I have in the latest MD II version which is identical to the MD III version is an excellent performer already wide open. In comparison to the Takumar 200mm/F3.5 which has been mentioned here before it's slightly better in terms of CA correction. In terms of sharpness they are quite similar.
Example of the Minolta MD 200mm/F4 fully open:
My best lens in 200mm at least in terms of CA correction is the Leitz Telyt 200mm/F4 (Visoflex version) which can be considered as an "APO"-lens in that respect:
Example fully open as well:
Stephan from Artaphot who tested a lot more different lenses in this focal length rates the Minolta one as one of the best. I only have 4 different 200mm primes for comparison and nothing from Canikon at all. However, he didn't say anything about the Leitz Telyt up to now.
Finally I can say that my Minolta AF 80-200mm/F2.8 HS APO zoom beats them all at 200mm, at least in "pixel peeping mode". |
Great images
Both.
The Telyt is one of the best 200 mm lenses.
But not common.
The Minolta and the Canon are easyly find to purchase.
Thank you. |
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dr.volkan
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
The Hexanon 3.5/200 is the sharpest 200 for 35mm SLRs I've tried, Olympus Zuiko 4/200 is pretty good too.
Sharpest overall would be the Bronica Zenzanon-S 4.5/200.
Most 200s I've tried left me underwhelmed. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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TrueLoveOne
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:41 am Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
The Hexanon 3.5/200 is the sharpest 200 for 35mm SLRs I've tried
Most 200s I've tried left me underwhelmed. |
I agree, 100% ! _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
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cooltouch
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Papasito, thanks for that link. It helped me identify my Mamiya 200/3.5 as the Type III. I was walking around the house yesterday, looking for stuff to shoot with my Mamiya 200. Found a coupe of subjects.
There was some purple and green fringing visible at higher magnifications. I was able to eliminate almost all of the purple fringing, but the green has been much more stubborn, and I don't know why. It is quite obvious on the OOF highlights in the second image.
NEX 7 @ ISO 100:
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papasito
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
Papasito, thanks for that link. It helped me identify my Mamiya 200/3.5 as the Type III. |
It's the same lens konwn as Mamiya SX and Rolleinar MC 200/3,5 made by Mamiya for Rollei SLR. |
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dr.volkan
Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 436 Location: Turkey_istanbul
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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dr.volkan wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
The Hexanon 3.5/200 is the sharpest 200 for 35mm SLRs I've tried, Olympus Zuiko 4/200 is pretty good too.
Sharpest overall would be the Bronica Zenzanon-S 4.5/200.
Most 200s I've tried left me underwhelmed. |
Can you send the sharpest examples please of the hexanon |
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TrueLoveOne
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:47 am Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
Some quick samples i shot around the house to show the Hexanon 3.5/200. All are wide open and straight out of cam JPG, if i get some spare time i'll take it out and shoot some proper samples with it and open a new topic specific for this lens as there's not much to find about it.
You'll see that it is plenty sharp, even at f/3.5. Also notice the purple fringing on high contrast edges in the last picture, which is gone when you stop it down.
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dr.volkan
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:30 am Post subject: |
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dr.volkan wrote:
Excuse me mamiya is better |
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TrueLoveOne
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:50 am Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
dr.volkan wrote: |
Excuse me mamiya is better |
To each their own! _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
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papasito
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
Papasito, thanks for that link. It helped me identify my Mamiya 200/3.5 as the Type III. I was walking around the house yesterday, looking for stuff to shoot with my Mamiya 200. Found a coupe of subjects.
There was some purple and green fringing visible at higher magnifications. I was able to eliminate almost all of the purple fringing, but the green has been much more stubborn, and I don't know why. It is quite obvious on the OOF highlights in the second image.
NEX 7 @ ISO 100:
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You have the same lenses as the Mamiya SX version and branded Rolleinar MC 200/3,5 for the Rollei SRL 35 mm camera. |
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fiftyonepointsix
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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fiftyonepointsix wrote:
The Micro-Nikkor 200mm F4 AF-D is the sharpest 200mm lens that I've shot with. It is reputed to be Nikon's sharpest lens ever made. |
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Pancolart wrote:
Model II looks like Cosinon 3.5/200mm: http://allphotolenses.com/lenses/item/c_632.html _________________ ---------------------------------
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D1N0
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:55 am Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
I recently aqcuired a Panagor 200mm F3.5 and it looks very similar to the version 2 of the mamiya-sekor.
Mamiya:
Panagor:
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papasito
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:21 am Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
fiftyonepointsix wrote: |
The Micro-Nikkor 200mm F4 AF-D is the sharpest 200mm lens that I've shot with. It is reputed to be Nikon's sharpest lens ever made. |
The Canon L 1,8/200 is an excellent lens too |
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D1N0
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
papasito wrote: |
fiftyonepointsix wrote: |
The Micro-Nikkor 200mm F4 AF-D is the sharpest 200mm lens that I've shot with. It is reputed to be Nikon's sharpest lens ever made. |
The Canon L 1,8/200 is an excellent lens too |
But what is the best affordable 200mm lens?
From my lenses it is between the Takumar 200mm F3.5 and The Jupiter 21m F4. Both extremely sharp. _________________ pentaxian |
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padam
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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padam wrote:
Minolta MD 200/4 (last version) is a very sharp lens, also very very light so great to handle.
OM 200/4 is also very good (not quite as sharp, but warmer colors and softer blur)
There are dozens of good ones out there (like Konica 200/3.5), we are splitting hairs here. |
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